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[Quantum253]

Is this something I could take on my travels and use anywhere away from home with wifi?

Could I use this to play co-op games alongside my PS5 at home?

I watched the IGN review and they mentioned that "hotel Wi-Fi might not be strong enough to manage the bandwidth" (now I wasn't finding the ideal up/down preferred speed or latency). And that it would be a problem if someone wanted to use the PS5 indicating that if your using the tablet it's a dedicated experience.
Idk, the idea was what I wanted at first, but not sure anymore. For 1080p and limited use, I might just get a nice monitor

 

[rofif]

I don’t get it why people dog on it. Isn’t it better to play games in high quality on a light handheld with great controller rather than hot, heavy steam deck in low settings?
You bunch use your handheld mostly at home anyway

 

[VitoNotVito]

Switch Lite is $199 lol

With 5 inch 720p screen
GTFO

 

[ArtHands]

Im referring to my own experience with remoteplay over 2 decades. There are still people who think you can only use it at home.



like i said. I played Destiny 8+ years ago on an PSTV at my girls house back then, while my PS4 was at my home….50 km away in standby mode.

Pretty sure people are saying that because that’s the most common use case when this thing is only useable for wifi-only. This doesn’t use mobile data unlike remote play on a phone or allow offline play like a Nintendo Switch or Steam Deck.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

I don’t get it why people dog on it. Isn’t it better to play games in high quality on a light handheld with great controller rather than hot, heavy steam deck in low settings?
You bunch use your handheld mostly at home anyway

Yup, nailed it

I think this is a good product for those that prefer playing handhelds at home in any room IF they nail the latency aspect

It’s simply giving people more choice with a damn good ps5 console handheld experience at home.

Why the hate for more options? Sony was never going to invest in a legit local handheld again

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Yup, nailed it

I think this is a good product for those that prefer playing handhelds at home in any room IF they nail the latency aspect

It’s simply giving people more choice with a damn good ps5 console handheld experience at home.

Why the hate for more options? Sony was never going to invest in a legit local handheld again

Yes, I am optimistic on the device. As someone with a Switch or OLED TV + PS5 I know I have much better experience on the latter, but still...

However I will be investing more into my PS5 library since I absolutely cannot stomach Switch load times, especially playing with kids - Lego Undercover is probably more than two minutes to get in the game.

 

[Miles708]

£200 to stream a game from one device to another.. So Essentially a £200 invisible HDMI cable. Your deluded if you think it’s a steal your actually getting robbed.

My bad, reading now my post and the sarcasm is not as obvious as i thought.
Yes, i share your feelings.

 

[Panajev2001a]

£200 to stream a game from one device to another.. So Essentially a £200 invisible HDMI cable. Your deluded if you think it’s a steal your actually getting robbed.

On the other side people are buying the screen-less DualSense Edge for not much less…

 

[Miles708]

On the other side people are buying the screen-less DualSense Edge for not much less…

That speak volumes about the state of the audience

 

[Panajev2001a]

That speak volumes about the state of the audience

I do bit necessarily disagree… now, if the video streaming is really Wii U quality or better AND if they allowed Wii U style asymmetric gameplay (one player with a DS, one player with a PSP (it does hurt to call it like that ), and they could play together on the same game and help each other or you could use both the controller for maps, player stats, secondary camera, etc… then it would be an interesting purchase indeed.

 

[Drizzlehell]

This looks like shit.

 

[Mr Branding]

 

[Robins]

This gives me Vita memory card vibes and no Bluetooth is very anti-consumer.

This had potential too. Shame.

 

[SHA]

I thought about a tv remote for a sec.

 

[Panajev2001a]

This gives me Vita memory card vibes and no Bluetooth is very anti-consumer.

This had potential too. Shame.

What do you mean no Bluetooth?

 

[rofif]

This looks like shit.

Why? Looks better ergonomically than any handheld.

 

[Roufianos]

With 5 inch 720p screen
GTFO

Are you actually trying to argue that this is better value than the Switch?

 

[mitchman]

What do you mean no Bluetooth?

It doesn't support BT headsets, only properitary Sony wireless protocols.

 

[Snake29]

Pretty sure people are saying that because that’s the most common use case when this thing is only useable for wifi-only. This doesn’t use mobile data unlike remote play on a phone or allow offline play like a Nintendo Switch or Steam Deck.

Your cell phone is already a hotspot. Create a hotspot with your phone and connect the device to it and you're done.

 

[Zathalus]

I don’t get it why people dog on it. Isn’t it better to play games in high quality on a light handheld with great controller rather than hot, heavy steam deck in low settings?
You bunch use your handheld mostly at home anyway

My major issues are this:

1. No Bluetooth.
2. No ability to stream PS+. Limits the device even further.
3. Bad battery life, come on the Logitech cloud device gets 12+ hours. This one is up in the air depending on the weight of the device. But is it's only 4 hours that would be unacceptable.
4. No OLED, I would pay $50 more for a OLED.

The last issue is unknown until we can actually use it, but it looks rather flimsy.

I like the idea of it, but the execution is not great.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

I don’t get it why people dog on it. Isn’t it better to play games in high quality on a light handheld with great controller rather than hot, heavy steam deck in low settings?
You bunch use your handheld mostly at home anyway

Selected group of users will 'dog on it' because it's a Sony product. Same as another group of users will praise it only because it's a Sony product.

 

[FunkMiller]

Yall sound like peasants LOL!!! Are yall serious? Are you trying to save money by turning everything off or are you trying to conserve energy to help the Planet? Because only one of those options seems reasonable to me. My PS5 stays in Stand By mode and my router never turns off.

I tend to travel for several weeks and months. A week here and there is a different thing… though even then it’s worth doing for the safety aspect.

 

[Banjo64]

Everyone said it at the point of reveal, but it’s still true the only option compared to the Portal.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Everyone said it at the point of reveal, but it’s still true the only option compared to the Portal.

How is it btw? Worth it?

 

[The Shepard]

I use remote play alot when the TV is occupied by my girlfriend or baby daughter so will be definitely getting one of these. I use a Google pixel 7 Pro and razer kishi atm and the screen is just to small and jarring after moving from the switch to this set up. Only downer is the lack of Bluetooth for my current headset.

 

[TrebleShot]

They will sell millions of these.

Think it looks great, the haptics, nice big screen.
Wont be very portable but hey ho, hope they do a nice case for it.

They other issue I have though is if they don't launch this at the same time with the headsets, that would be annoying.

 

[CircleOfFire]

This gives me Vita memory card vibes and no Bluetooth is very anti-consumer.

This had potential too. Shame.

But it does have a proper headphone jack, which for me personally makes up for that.

 

[deriks]

Better than all the mouth breathers who said it'd be north of $300.

Still not good, mate

 

[Hudo]

I don’t get it why people dog on it. Isn’t it better to play games in high quality on a light handheld with great controller rather than hot, heavy steam deck in low settings?
You bunch use your handheld mostly at home anyway

Personally, I shit on it because they want more than 200€ for a non-standalone device that doesn't even have an OLED. This thing should've been 100€

 

[ArtHands]

Your cell phone is already a hotspot. Create a hotspot with your phone and connect the device to it and you're done.

That comes with a new set of problems: Draining the batteries of both the phones and this, and cannot get beyond the tethering range.

That’s on top of having a PS5 and leaving it on standby mode when you leave the house. And great internet environment for the mobile phone. Hopefully with unlimited mobile data plan. Also only run installed games which makes it useless for physical players.

its the niche of the niche of the niche

 

[VitoNotVito]

My major issues are this:

1. No Bluetooth.
2. No ability to stream PS+. Limits the device even further.
3. Bad battery life, come on the Logitech cloud device gets 12+ hours. This one is up in the air depending on the weight of the device. But is it's only 4 hours that would be unacceptable.
4. No OLED, I would pay $50 more for a OLED.

The last issue is unknown until we can actually use it, but it looks rather flimsy.

I like the idea of it, but the execution is not great.

How do you know the battery life??? Is there any data about it available?

 

[Zathalus]

How do you know the battery life??? Is there any data about it available?

Previous leaks and the statement from Sony they want it to be similar to the Dualsense. So that can be anything from 4-8 hours.

 

[BootsLoader]

So it's a PSP again, just PlayStation Portalble this time.
199 bucks is very nice to be honest. There are elite controllers out there that are more expensive.

What I would like to see is the chip it boasts and what will the homebrew community do with that. If it can Emulate PS2, PSP and other similar level consoles, I am going to buy one. Even without a PS5.

 

[VitoNotVito]

Previous leaks and the statement from Sony they want it to be similar to the Dualsense. So that can be anything from 4-8 hours.

Leaks. If that's true than it sucks.

 

[Snake29]

That comes with a new set of problems: Draining the batteries of both the phones and this, and cannot get beyond the tethering range.

That’s on top of having a PS5 and leaving it on standby mode when you leave the house. And great internet environment for the mobile phone. Hopefully with unlimited mobile data plan. Also only run installed games which makes it useless for physical players.

its the niche of the niche of the niche

It's how it all works right now already. I can do it right now at work with the remote play app if i want, because my PS5 is in restmode. The draining batteries is almost a non issue in todays world with battery packs.

Still, most people will use it while connecting directly with a WiFi signal anywhere you are.

 

[Ic3man]

Why even make this? And that price

 

[Banjo64]

I don’t get it why people dog on it. Isn’t it better to play games in high quality on a light handheld with great controller rather than hot, heavy steam deck in low settings?
You bunch use your handheld mostly at home anyway

If you want to play the comparison game is it not better to play your games natively rather than streaming them to a tablet?

 

[supernova8]

$199 price tag seems fine.

If you were to go on Amazon and "DIY" this, it'd cost you:
1) at least $50 for the absolute cheapest-ass 8 inch tablet,
2) about $80 for an official PS5 controller.
3) about $10 for the clip thing to attach your controller to the tablet (if you want to do that)

So we're already at $140 for the DIY option. Then Sony says "Hey Ibiza Pocholo, you can have this ready-made, it-just-works version made by us and therefore certified and guaranteed by us, to work with your PS5 without extra messing around and googling shit for only an extra $60". I'd certainly pay an extra $60 for an all-in-one device guaranteed by Sony themselves to work. Besides if you buy one of those bottom-of-the-barrel unknown brand tablets from China, who knows how long it'll last before it explodes or something.

If you think of it like that, it's not really expensive. Besides, who cares if it's not a "real tablet"? it wouldn't be powerful enough to run PS5 games anyway so you'd just have deadweight for the sake of having a shitty android tablet.

 

[Woopah]

Yeah, but I don't understand WHY. It would allow Sony to make PS+ money off people who can't or won't buy a PS5. I don't understand why they wouldn't want that. They don't make their money from selling PS5s.

I know what they did, but they have the tech they should have had it.

Its already a niche product why make it even more niche by not having it

I would guess that they want to market it very clearly as a PlayStation 5 accessory, and feel that cloud functionality would potentially confuse that positioning of the product.

You could've used the Sega CD as an audio CD player back in the day, so it still had a use-case outside of games. Quality CD players in the early '90s costed a fortune.

If the Portal were a PS4 Portable they'd be able to accomplish everything you just mentioned, plus make even more money per unit and have something genuinely viable in certain markets like Japan.

The PS5 has already shown itself to be viable hardware wise in Japan. Its not hardware sales that are the issue there.

They JUST got to offering cloud gaming on the PS5. Some of you guys need to realize that they are still working on their cloud tech. It's not that hard to understand why cloud gaming isn't on this device at launch. But it will come in the future.

I'm not so convinced. I don't think they'll add cloud as that would mean you wouldn't need to be a PS5 owner to own one.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I watched the IGN review and they mentioned that "hotel Wi-Fi might not be strong enough to manage the bandwidth" (now I wasn't finding the ideal up/down preferred speed or latency). And that it would be a problem if someone wanted to use the PS5 indicating that if your using the tablet it's a dedicated experience.
Idk, the idea was what I wanted at first, but not sure anymore. For 1080p and limited use, I might just get a nice monitor

Honestly, what else did you expect?

It's a Remote Play-device and comes with all the RP pros and cons.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

That’s on top of having a PS5 and leaving it on standby mode when you leave the house. And great internet environment for the mobile phone. Hopefully with unlimited mobile data plan. Also only run installed games which makes it useless for physical players.

its the niche of the niche of the niche

No, it’s called living outside the US.

 

[prinz_valium]

This will do as well as the PS TV.
Has the same limitations. Just as a mobile screen.

Some hardcore Fans will buy it, majority of Playstation owners will not. Lower attachment rate than PS VR

 

[RoadHazard]

This will do as well as the PS TV.
Has the same limitations. Just as a mobile screen.

Some hardcore Fans will buy it, majority of Playstation owners will not. Lower attachment rate than PS VR

Uh no, the PS TV was a standalone device that ran Vita games. Completely different.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

Just get steam deck. ggez.

 

[yurinka]

It doesn't support BT headsets, only properitary Sony wireless protocols.

Where did Sony said that? They said it does support the new protocol, which doesn't implies that it doesn't support Bluetooth.

Why even make this? And that price

For the same reason they made the other accesories: because a lot of people would buy it. A DualSense with a display in the middle to make Remote Play is something many would buy it, specially at this low price.

Let's say around 10% of the PS5 userbase would buy it: that would be 13-15M units sold, more than the Vita.

 

[rofif]

Just get steam deck. ggez.

why?
To play games at 720p 30fps on low?
steam deck screen is very bad too

 

[keefged4]

DOA.

 

[Miles708]

For the same reason they made the other accesories: because a lot of people would buy it. A DualSense with a display in the middle to make Remote Play is something many would buy it, specially at this low price.

Let's say around 10% of the PS5 userbase would buy it: that would be 13-15M units sold, more than the Vita.

Exactly.

It's not Sony the problem here.

 

[64bitbros]

Everyone said it at the point of reveal, but it’s still true the only option compared to the Portal.

You clearly haven't tried a Backbone. Its crap. The sticks are awful. Joycon awful. Rumble is meh. Also, a screen of a phone is too small no matter what resolution it is. And not every phone fits nicely. The Steam Deck with Chiaki4life is clearly better.

 

[ArtHands]

It's how it all works right now already. I can do it right now at work with the remote play app if i want, because my PS5 is in restmode. The draining batteries is almost a non issue in todays world with battery packs.

Still, most people will use it while connecting directly with a WiFi signal anywhere you are.

Seems terrible cumbersome. I am glad I have other ways to get my portable gaming fix.

No, it’s called living outside the US.

I don't live in the US. I also have unlimited internet and a PS5.

Thing is I also have Xbox/PC/Switch/Steam Deck etc. If I want to remote play only device, I will rather pay more for a Logitech G Cloud so I can play more games across more platforms, and not limit myself to the handful of installed PS5 games with this. Hell I can even add emulators to G Cloud.