Aren't EA and Ubisoft publishers. If they hate gamepass so much why are their games on there? That doesn't sound unanimous to me...just sayin.
The case between Microsoft and the FTC continued on Tuesday with video deposition from PlayStation Boss Jim Ryan being a focal point. During a meeting with Fidelity investors in February 2022, Ryan said publishers just don’t like Xbox Game Pass or the idea of the subscription model.
Ryan added that the belief was “very commonly held” by publishers across the industry. He also said that he didn’t believe Activision Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick would put the Call of Duty franchise on the service if the acquisition didn’t go through.
That said, Sony has worked to help PlayStation compete against the service with exclusive games of its own. Ryan said that PlayStation growing first-party titles is its way to keep Xbox Game Pass at bay.
. Literally hyperbole
EA has literally their entire EA Play library on game pass. Ubisoft has it's games on GamePass.Which Publisher? Most games on Game Pass right now are mostly indies.
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You said they created a gamepass competitor. They did not.
So this court case would have the emails where Microsoft has reached out to secure big ip day one and it not come to fruition. I guess we can view those emails?
If MS is sending internal emails talking about kill the competence buying publishers, why should the court or anyone believe they said?
Curious how the publishers think the same things I was saying all along. Gamepass is destructive to the industry.
No, that's why they are fanboys. If Spencer or Ryan said something once it has to be valid for eternity. Plans and opinions are not allowed change or adapted.
To be fair, both Ryan and Spencer are fucking PR disasters almost every time they speak. Both Sony and Microsoft should let trained PR people speak publicly about stuff.
Indeed, they are not the best mic workers, but also people like to misinterprete the things they say.
Yeah... It's a two-way street.
you said publisher, ea do the same.
He’d know better than others. Do you not think he spoke to publishing partners when setting up PS+ extra and premium? Do you think Activision and Take 2 have changed their minds?Lol, yeah OK Jim
Yeah they all hate it so much that they put their games on the service. Wouldn't have anything to do with Game Pass being a successful formula of Sony's competitor that he said this.
Happen..not often but happen...annapurna with stray for example on psnow...and 12minutes on gamepass...same publisher...so this mean that annapurna love ps now and find disruptive the gamepass?
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Yes that same ceo that say that ms+abk is not a problem and the cloud market is not a diffrent marketI think people are being very obtuse here. Jim Ryan is obviously talking about day 1 games. We have seen that Take 2 don’t agree with it. FIFA and Madden are not Day 1 Game Pass, Cyberpunk 2077 wasn’t.
Take-Two CEO Says Launching New Games Into A Subscription Service Like Game Pass Makes No Sense
"I don't think that ever made sense. I still don't think it makes sense."
The mental gymnastics is astounding. I'm not going to tell you why the services are different because you know already. I can't believe people are trying to spin his, it's pretty fucking obvious that gamepass day 1 releases devalue gaming.
Sony’s sub has been on the market 1/5 of the time of Xbox GamePass and already has ~ 50% of the subscribers with minimal investment compared to Xbox. Sony has achieved that on one ecosystem, not two. On top of that, their users spend more on full priced games games and micro transactions.
I disagree, don't have any clue why it would devalue a release. Definitely not in case of Sony and Microsoft when they put it on their own service.
He said that in jan 2022, before the contract negotiations showed it would be a problem. He even confirmed that in the deposition yesterday.
This is different to releasing on gamepass. He didn't say publishers don't like subscription services he said publishers don't like xbox gamepass. Ubisoft on Ubisoft+ get $13 per month for ubisoft games only. This is a little different to MS revenue sharing with multiple publishers or doing upfront payments for their content.
I think he's referring to the response he gave that cloud is a service feature.
But they’re really angry when they do
Isn't that just how sonys cloud gaming service is offered? Regulators have known this since the beginning.
Yeah it's great you get new releases of Fifa, Madden, NBA, GTA 6, COD etc
All depends on the cheque they get for doing so. Something like GTA6 on GP would cost insane money. (some EGS freebies did cost quite much) Some indie game that barely got views on its youtube reveal trailer costs probably pennies.
They are hanging on to MS' talking points that cloud is just a feature of the console market that they're apparently struggling in, completely ignoring the fact that there are small players out there where cloud is the entire product/service.
People see subscription games as having less value. If you can get 100+ games for a yearly fee, why would you pay $70 for one game?
