I don't think anyone "doesn't get" the want for AAA VR titles.
I reckon there’ll be quite a few upcoming racing games with a VR mode included, especially now GT7 has paved the way. In any case, I wouldn’t judge the releases after a couple of months - at least give it 12 months and then see where we’re at.
They only need modes and they could allow a vr company to do the converting or hire a vr team
I mean, people with a VR headset play big budget game with a VR mode in VR, more at 11.
OP were you expecting different?
All of these besides Astrobot are a slap-job afterthought shite. When people say they want AAA VR, I very much doubt Hitman VR is their frame of reference.
Do you honestly think we'll have new exclusive AAA releases lined up for PSVR2 in 2024?
It's hard to explain, Alyx feels more immersive, it is imo the first real 'AAA' game that is 100% built around VR. So the way the controls work and the interaction with the environment, it's all very very fluid. Like in the game you are manually doing lots of things with your hands and the interaction in doing that feels very good. Like even upgrading your weapons and healing yourself, your pulling things here and there and opening buttons and putting your weapon in a cradle in a machine and using a touch screen on that machine to select option with your finger to upgrade your weapon etc. it's just designed well because it is all made solely for VR but the production quality of that is top tier, there is no clipping or that slight shake/vibration with your hands like other VR games, it just works 99.9% of the time. RE8 is good fun and still good quality but you can feel the VR is a secondary add on to the game, having already played the game in non VR beforehand. GT7 is also great fun but its a racing game so there is not much element of VR besides being in the drivers seat so its magic is your view of being in the car, there's not much else to it besides good fun racing. I'd love to see Alyx on PSVR2 but I experienced on my 3080 with ultra settings and don't think PS5 will be able to quite output the same graphical quality and performance, I'm sure they can optimise it well and should be very close. I'm sure Sony will be 100% negotiating a port.
I mean, I get Alyx is more immersive in the sense everything is interactive, but RE8 is immersive as hell too, and I've seen some people who've played both not just hand it over to Alyx unanimously. The graphics in RE8 are better IMO, perhaps tied if you want to argue style is up to taste, but definitely more detailed. The texture work and object detail is better by far from what I've seen of Alyx. Just can't manipulate 99% of it in RE8, but it still looks amazing, and you can walk up to literally anything 1" from your face and it still looks detailed and modeled near-perfectly. I've yet to feel that in any game prior. But the non-interactivity is the rule of the game world. Doesn't mean it can't be immersive, you have to accept the game's rules with any game to get in to it. The immersion in RE8 comes from the enemy AI (which is more challenging than Alyx from what I've read by people who've played both, they say Alyx is more forgiving in combat and with less opponents), the detail of everything, and the horror elements in VR, which transcend the flat version.
You're the one pivoting from system-selling AAA VR games to Hybrid AAA games. If you're content with those, be my guest, I'm sure that well won't run dry as quickly as proper AAA VR one.
Hitman VR and Skyrim VR are dogshit no matter if you play them on Vive 2 or a cardboard. They fundamentally fail as VR games.
The issue was, is, and always will be, the size of the userbase.
Imagine a next-gen StarCraft on a new custom engine where you are over looking the map in VR and able to interact with buildings and tell units where to go. I feel like if done right VR can breath new life into the RTS genre.
Regarding graphics of RE8, imo it looks graphically worse, I wasn't impressed with that side of it at all, the aliasing is terrible, you can see jagged edgies in lots of places and all over assets. Alyx is a lot cleaner in that respect. People saying its better are probably having placebo effect of the PSVR2 headset or they played Alyx on lower spec quality PC rendering lower settings. I'm only comparing Alyx almost maxed out on my PC to RE8. Obviously different headsets and different PC's are going to yield different results. RE8 has more action, a lot of story action, bigger set pieces because it was built as a standard video game. Alyx is just better from a VR technical standpoint which to me makes it better because its giving you a more capable VR experience. It's all subjective. But don't get overhyped about Alyx, you won't eventually play it and think its the best thing you've ever seen or played, it just delivers a more satisfying VR experience as far as functionality.
So I guess you would prefer a AAA game developed for flat screen gaming with a VR option rather than a game made for VR exclusively, because there is no way you would get that detailed fidelity and presentation in an exclusive VR game. VR space at the moment considering it's still technically a niche market will not pour that much money and resources into development of an exclusive VR game. And this is part of the problem for VR at the moment. If you are looking at that aspect than yes RE8 is hands down better. But Alyx delivers on the execution of how it plays in VR. Judging from what you said, you will not find Alyx better if visual detail and presentation supersedes functional gameplay and its execution.
Yes, I think that sounds pretty accurate. I am sure I will find Alyx to be a better VR game, in the sense it is actually using VR and isn't just you being dropped into the world of a AAA game. Alyx will also have better systems in its world - the physics in RE8 are very limited, while in Alyx they will be integral, and the puzzles in Alyx will be a lot more clever than the basic ones found in RE8, and the combat will also be more playful as well. So I definitely understand the draw, and fully expect to enjoy it (I'll 100% be buying it when I get a PC VR set or if it gets ported before that). It's just at the end of the day, like you said, I'm more of a give me VR versions of AAA games than necessarily needing exclusive VR titles unavailable flat and games that let you interact as if it were the real world - I'm perfectly ok just enjoying limited access like RE8 in VR.
To be honest I'm not sure, I'm about to try the Saints and Sinners games on the weekend so I'm hoping them to be great experiences as I keep getting told. Otherwise RE8 is still pretty entertaining. We really need more built from the ground up AAA games like Alyx.
Not looking for a huge challenge or anything, it's stressful enough as it is)
I'd add - where the fuck is Wipeout Omega Collection? It's first-party and already had a VR mode on OG PSVR. Such an obvious title.
Motion sickness.IMHO Sony is missing a big opportunity here. The hardware is amazing, but where is the new AstroBot, which was VR game of the year? Where is Uncharted playable in VR, God of War, Ratchet and Clank, Horizon, Returnal, Last of Us and Spiderman? Just make the games playable in VR as they are, as Sony did for GT7.
No need to fancy VR controls, and interaction waving your arms around and punching walls and TVs, just make us feel immersed in those amazing worlds and Sony would sell headsets like pancakes
Fixed that for you pal!
Probably there is.
Exactly! Any kind of use can be imagined. And in addition to the wonderful diorama view, even interacting directly with hands would be precise and intuitive.
Yeah, it's just the rules of the game. Like in Alyx you can't walk through the walls or fly or shoot nails from your hands, in RE8 you can't move things that aren't meant to be interacted with. You can still break most of the plates and cups with your knife if you want though, but I can simply accept the game rules and enjoy being in the space without the need to pick every object up and have it all working with real physics. You're getting the exact same thing in VR, the same incredible sense of vertical space, scale and amazing gunplay, but you just can't pickup the dishes etc. To me that's not RE, RE is moving through rooms, getting items, and shooting enemies. And doing all that in VR is way better. I'm willing to forgo picking up dishes if it means I get the game in VR.
So basically Townsmen but set in space!
I completely agree. and about limiting the AAA studios, I don't think that making a VR version of an already existing game will require months or years of devs time. By any means I am not saying that is an easy task, quite the opposite. but in the PC mod community single developers are converting most of the best AAA games in VR very succesfully. I played about 130 hours of Elden Ring in VR with a mod made by a single dev. and now I'm on RE 4r
