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Quantic Dream, Nagoshi Studio, Grasshopper might be shutdown by NetEase Games

Shaki12345

Shaki12345

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The worst thing about all this, and the recent industry changes, is people here and elsewhere celebrating a company's downfall.

These studio's have a lot of great and talented individuals working who deserve a better fate. Where's the empathy.

We're talking about videogames here, it's not politics or anything life threatening.
 
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mdkirby

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Not surprising. China has pretty much cracked how to build high quality games with western appeal, domestically, where they cost way less to create, can be more aligned with Chinese values, and seemingly in many cases look better too. Why should they take the risk on western studios that seem to currently specialise in making sub standard way way over cost/budget games that have a high propensity to flop and lose hundreds of millions.🤷‍♂️
 
Astray

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mdkirby said:
Not surprising. China has pretty much cracked how to build high quality games with western appeal, domestically, where they cost way less to create, can be more aligned with Chinese values, and seemingly in many cases look better too. Why should they take the risk on western studios that seem to currently specialise in making sub standard way way over cost/budget games that have a high propensity to flop and lose hundreds of millions.🤷‍♂️
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They're pausing investment into their Japanese studios too.
 
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rkofan87

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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo not suda51 him and rgg are the ones keeping the wacky jp games alive.
 
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rkofan87

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Varteras said:
I could be wrong, but I remember a fair few claims that David Cage was the reason Sony never bought them. I seem to recall a story of someone from Sony at a convention saying they couldn't stand him. Add in the allegations of a very bad work environment.
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this true or not cage was a liability.
 
hinch7

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rkofan87 said:
supermassive is better then qd imo
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Arguably true. They've certainly released more games but nothing has really topped Until Dawn imo.

I've enjoyed more QD games though personally. Heavy Rain and Detroit I really enjoyed playing. Beyond Two Souls was pretty okay as well. But yeah I have a feeling a lot has to do with Cage as it seems like he's a pain to work with.
 
Generic

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mdkirby said:
Not surprising. China has pretty much cracked how to build high quality games with western appeal, domestically, where they cost way less to create, can be more aligned with Chinese values, and seemingly in many cases look better too. Why should they take the risk on western studios that seem to currently specialise in making sub standard way way over cost/budget games that have a high propensity to flop and lose hundreds of millions.🤷‍♂️
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The AAA western devs Nagoshi and Suda 51.
 
Heimdall_Xtreme

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Mibu no ookami said:
Sony didn't want to get in bed with David Cage and maybe more importantly, the genre that Quantic Dream makes is probably peaking.

People say Sony should have bought them and complain about Sony's pipeline, but we're talking about a studio that hasn't released a game in nearly 7 years and haven't even displayed their new game (Star Wars).

People say the same thing about Ready at Dawn and Evolution despite what happened to those studios as well.

Sony has largely made the right choices with their studio investments, outside of a couple of low risk startups not panning out.
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I could agree with you... But look at Jim Ryan and Hermen Hulst... And I don't agree... Sony has been the biggest idiot from 2016 to date... And even more so with the idiots that these 2 chimpanzees are.
 
Shaki12345

Shaki12345

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Heimdall_Xtreme said:
I could agree with you... But look at Jim Ryan and Hermen Hulst... And I don't agree... Sony has been the biggest idiot from 2016 to date... And even more so with the idiots that these 2 chimpanzees are.
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Sony is raping their loyal customers for remaster money to fund their way too expensive projects that don't even sell enough.

Most people here don't see it, but Sony is in trouble for the long term and are making the same mistakes Microsoft did. The difference is that Microsoft has games. They need a big management rethink or they'll get destroyed by PC and Nintendo.
 
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ReBurn

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Certinty said:
Still can’t believe Sony never bought Quantic Dream.

Heavy Rain was one of the best PS3 games and Detroit: Become Human one of the best PS4 games.
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Detroit: Become Human was a great story, but it wasn't a great game. You can get the full effect watching playthrough videos on YouTube. I do love the story, though. Heavy Rain was a good practice run for Detroit, but the same is true for it. It's better to me just watching the story on YouTube than working through all of the QTE's.
 
SkylineRKR

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Detroit was their best game, but I couldn't really care a lot for HR and Beyond. SIE had Until Dawn as well, which I found to be more fun actually. QD's output is rather low and all over the place. Plus they don't offer a whole lot in terms of gameplay. I can't see what Sony would need with this studio, locking these whatever games to their own platform?
 
Fbh

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Damn, I was looking forward to seeing what Nagoshi had been working on. I guess we might never know now.
Don't really care much for QD. Detroit was their first decent game IMO, but they'll seemingly always be held back by having to work with the awful writing from David Cage.
 
DeepEnigma

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That Chinese money
trojan horse gates GIF by South Park
 
Itchy Tickles

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I have a soft spot for everything Quantic Dream makes. I love the types of games they make, all the jank and "wtfs" included.

Would really be down for a new game. Aren't they making a Star Wars game? I don't have any affection for Star Wars, but I would check it out if it's done by QD.
 
Certinty

Certinty

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ReBurn said:
Detroit: Become Human was a great story, but it wasn't a great game. You can get the full effect watching playthrough videos on YouTube. I do love the story, though. Heavy Rain was a good practice run for Detroit, but the same is true for it. It's better to me just watching the story on YouTube than working through all of the QTE's.
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Completely disagree. The amount of branching paths is by far and away the more impressive of any game i’ve played.
 
Spooky Scary Skeleton

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They are basically defunding every single western and japanese studios to brink of their closure or definite closure to put everything on domestic chinese game studios and encourage more chinese indie devs within giant publishers.
 
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John Wick

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Sony could sign another 2-3 game deal with QD without buying them outright.
They should try to acquire Grasshopper though.
 
Putonahappyface

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"In a statement posted on LinkedIn, Quantic Dream CEO Guillaume de Fondaumière said the studio's teams had not been impacted by NetEase's dramatic cuts, and were "continuing to develop our projects at full pace".

Indeed, things are apparently rosy for the company, with de Fondaumière noting the developer saw its highest revenues in its 28-year history during 2024, driven by "exceptional performance" of its back catalogue of games - and 2018's Detroit: Become Human in particular. The company shifted a further 2m copies of Detroit across PC and PlayStation last year, for a new all-time total of 11m."

Thank You Lord GIF
 
Arsic

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I’d love to be sad for grasshopper but suda hasn’t done anything remarkable. All of his games have style sure but 0 substance.

Take that into account and they did the mediocre “remasters” of loli and shadows, and you sort of get what you put in to come back around.

Suda needs a budget, and someone to take his ideas/style, then put it into a cohesive video game that doesn’t handle like a retard intern made it 2 days in his spare time.
 
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