kiphalfton
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Miners aren't buying this crap. Blame idiot run of the mill consumers.
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Miners aren't buying this crap. Blame idiot run of the mill consumers.
kiphalfton
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Deleted member 1159
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Ok change it to “for sure” and I’m happy with my purchase because for me, the price wasn’t too high and the performance was what I wanted.
Dollar for performance ratio my PS5 was probably way better but I sure ain’t playing Baldur’s Gate 3 on my PS5.
Senua
Gold Member
Dude of course jumping 3 gens will be incredible! Look the 4080 is a very powerful card but the price was ridiculous, compared with the 4070 ti and 4090 the value just wasn't there. It was the red-headed stepchild of the range. The super is a nice step in the right direction but the performance uplift is minimal for a "super"
Quixz
Member
Likely defective 4090 chips
winjer
Member
No. The 4080 Super uses the full AD103 die. The normal 4080 also uses the AD103, but with fewer units enabled.
Don't understand why we use 1440p comparison charts for a 4k GPU but fine, in that case there isn't a difference. In case of 4070 Ti Super there are still some people don't get the performance advantage.
What the hell is the purpose of this GPU?
A 5-10% uplift wouldn't have threatened the 4090, but at least it would have given the Super a legitimation.
What the hell is the purpose of this GPU?
A 5-10% uplift wouldn't have threatened the 4090, but at least it would have given the Super a legitimation.
LectureMaster
Gold Member
Lol, guess I can still feel pretty good about my $1800 rtx4080+13700kf prebuild
Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
Idk why he grabbed the 1440p chart even the people who make the chart say they do their overall relative performance for any card more powerful than a 2080Super at 4k. The 4080Super is more of a 4kncard than a 1440p card.1%
Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
No because then the TI super wouldn't spot in right.
winjer
Member
All those reviews have charts for 1440p and 4K, some even have 1080p as well.
Bojji
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LavitzSlambert
Member
The mining craze started the problem and inflated prices beginning in 2017. Supply chain problems from the COVID lockdowns helped maintain high price levels. Nvidia is in part to blame for taking advantage of these price points, and you are absolutely right that idiot consumers are continuing to buy into this are the other part of the problem. Now Nvidia is in between a rock and a hard place. Do they drop prices even further and piss off their dumb customers who paid 50% more than they should have? Or do they maintain high prices, continuing to gouge? It seems like they've chosen the second option.
hinch7
Member
I like to to think its Nvidia's way of doing a price drops without formally announcing it. And refresh the series at the same time, to market against RDNA 4 and Battlemage.
But yeah, a 1-3% uplift is pretty piss poor all round and the only noteworthy thing is a $200 drop. But that's not enough for a 1.5 year old product, that was ridiculously priced in the first place. With AMD and Nvidia price fixing this gen, its been awful for everyone not willing to spend $1600 for a new GPU (or now maybe the $600 4070 Super), for an actual decent uplift without getting completely ripped off. And even then its poor value. Its only what.. 20-25% more performance for 60%+ more money, lol. I know its flagship but.. Christ. People just want to play vidya games. These aren't Titan class GPU's.
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lachesis
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I did end up ordering 4080 Super FE this morning as my new build is complete except it has no graphics card. Waiting on the delivery... but I guess it could take 10 days.
I was able to get on Nvidia's site on exactly 9am and added one in cart - and while I was waiting on the cue, I was able to add one in cart for Best Buy one. I immediately tried to check out the Best Buy one as it lead to me the checkout - but got hung up with "you can only add 1 on cart" error (which I actually had only 1) ... then poof. Gone. Out of Stock. Less than a couple min! WTH?
Thankfully, Nvidia website cue was still active, and was able to check out... But honestly, I feel somewhat disappointed with the 40XX Super series, maybe except 4070 Super.... and beginning to feel like I should have settled with 4070 Super FE (I was able to put one 4070 Super FE on the cart a couple weeks back, but cancelled out as I wanted more VRAM) - and ride out till 5080 or whatever AMD comes out in response, but cancelled the purchase
My original target was 4070 Ti Super for my new build (7800x3d), and I thought it would be very close to original 4080 - and we all know how it came out, and thoguht it would be wiser to see the 4080 Super, as I never had a FE edition and 4070 Ti Super doesn't have FE.
(And unlike many people, I actually like FE design with clean lines... and also like the fact that it's often the most economical one, and also tends to keep its value a bit better?)
I saw $750 deal on RX9800 7900 XTX yesterday on Amazon. (Sapphire Pulse brand) - almost bought it as it's far better deal for just sheer rasterization power, especially at $750.
At this point, I'm on a buyers remorse phase of spending a grand + tax on a graphics card... but well, I think I will just give me an excuse of "treat".
I was able to get on Nvidia's site on exactly 9am and added one in cart - and while I was waiting on the cue, I was able to add one in cart for Best Buy one. I immediately tried to check out the Best Buy one as it lead to me the checkout - but got hung up with "you can only add 1 on cart" error (which I actually had only 1) ... then poof. Gone. Out of Stock. Less than a couple min! WTH?
Thankfully, Nvidia website cue was still active, and was able to check out... But honestly, I feel somewhat disappointed with the 40XX Super series, maybe except 4070 Super.... and beginning to feel like I should have settled with 4070 Super FE (I was able to put one 4070 Super FE on the cart a couple weeks back, but cancelled out as I wanted more VRAM) - and ride out till 5080 or whatever AMD comes out in response, but cancelled the purchase
My original target was 4070 Ti Super for my new build (7800x3d), and I thought it would be very close to original 4080 - and we all know how it came out, and thoguht it would be wiser to see the 4080 Super, as I never had a FE edition and 4070 Ti Super doesn't have FE.
(And unlike many people, I actually like FE design with clean lines... and also like the fact that it's often the most economical one, and also tends to keep its value a bit better?)
I saw $750 deal on RX
At this point, I'm on a buyers remorse phase of spending a grand + tax on a graphics card... but well, I think I will just give me an excuse of "treat".
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kiphalfton
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lachesis
Member
lol 7900 xtx. (fixed) Don't know where 9800 came from!
Just checked the Amazon again and that 25% off deal is gone.
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delirium trigger
Member
I think spending all that money on a card and not having the nvidia features is crazy. Amd has some attractive prices at the lower end but there's no way I'd want to spend that and not have dlss3 and all the advanced ray tracing capabilities.
kiphalfton
Member
lol 7900 xtx. (fixed) Don't know where 9800 came from!
Just checked the Amazon again and that 25% off deal is gone.
I had to check if that was actually a thing as I don't keep up to date with AMD offerings.
Apparently back in the day there was a 9800 XT (but not XTX).
Nevertheless, that's a pretty damn good deal for the 7900 XTX, especially if it's a sapphire card, as they go for like $1k.
AGRacing
Member
I have a 7900 XTX as well and was considering switching to the 4080 super if it felt right and I could get a good buyer on the XTX - but I'm not going to bother.
I have to say I've been very happy with this graphics card. DLSS3 would be great... and maybe in another year I'll miss it. But I don't think so.
I have to say I've been very happy with this graphics card. DLSS3 would be great... and maybe in another year I'll miss it. But I don't think so.
yansolo
Member
$2000(aud) for a card seems nuts to me, i just checked a couple of the stores down under and regular 4080's are also still $2000. What happens to those cards do they just completely get replaced by the super? i was thinking id just wait a bit and get a regular 4080 at a lower price, guess thats not happening.
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
Still poor value, just less terrible.
True, but that was back in 2003 and they were ATI back then. (I had the 9800 pro. That was a decent card from what I remember.)
newtypepilot
Member
it's all part of plan from the start
1) release overpriced card
2) release same card again under a new SKU
3) offer price cut to distract the fact it has margin of errors level of improvments
4) nvidia fanboys: OMG NEW CARD!! MUST GET!!
1) release overpriced card
2) release same card again under a new SKU
3) offer price cut to distract the fact it has margin of errors level of improvments
4) nvidia fanboys: OMG NEW CARD!! MUST GET!!
Rickyiez
Member
The purpose of this card is to cut the price of 4080 but without having to do that officially .
In the end we still have nothing that is close to a 4090 sadly . Ideally we should have a 4080 Ti at $1000 that is in between 4090 and 4080 but the greed of Nvidia would not let that happen .
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Gameplay Gods Bless
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Thanks! I was hoping it would be a bit closer to the 7900xtx.Its still 1% in 4k.
JackMcGunns
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HeisenbergFX4
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MonkeyClaw36
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I just got an Asus Geforce 4070 Super at half the price.
The jump from 2070 Super was high enough and it does what I want and beyond.
The jump from 2070 Super was high enough and it does what I want and beyond.
Buggy Loop
Member
4090 is such a damn beast…
I doubt we’ll see a x90 series as dominant as Ada gen in a long time. The gap is too big.
I doubt we’ll see a x90 series as dominant as Ada gen in a long time. The gap is too big.
Senua
Gold Member
The gap shouldn't be that big, but Nvidia chose to fuck us over on lower tier cards this gen.
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Eh, the value was there for me. I had my 1080ti for like 5 years and I’ll probably have my 4080 for just as long. It’s 15% faster than a 4070ti Super, but I’ve been gaming on it since November 2022. I’m not sitting around calculating dollars per FPS when I’m fucking up zombies in RE4 maxxed out at 4K >100FPS
Randall365
Member
It's just supply and demand. I bought my 3080 for around £900 back in early 2022. I upgraded to the 4080 Super and sold the 3080 to CEX for around £350. I probably could have got another £50 to £100 on ebay. If people will pay (getting on for) £500 for (used) cards that were near the top of the range two years ago, the state of the art will be a fair bit more and the sellers will keep it there by not offering any discounts whatsoever.
Value is so subjective anyway - if I have a 144hz UW monitor and I want the graphics card to push out those frames in the games I want to play - and have the cash - then it is good value to get the 4080 Super for me. If I play on a 60hz monitor and the 3080 clears that easily, then obviously the 4080 Super is a terrible buy, no matter how much it costs.
Where the 4080 failed in many people's eyes is that sale prices were creeping up to the RRP of the clearly (25%+) better 4090. Now that issue has been solved.
Dr.D00p
Member
At least the $1200 original launch price of the 4080 has served its purpose....ensuring Nvidia won't be so stupid as to try the same shit with the 5080, which is what will replace my 3080FE card, which i snagged at MSRP in 2021.
$999 will almost certainly be the new 80 class entry fee going forwards.
$999 will almost certainly be the new 80 class entry fee going forwards.
ResilientBanana
Member
I don’t think this GPU is for people that already own a 4080.
That was said about the 1080ti aswell
So we should get a x90 ti in a couple of gens to complete the circle.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
The 4070ti price was ridiculous. A $200 increase over the 3070ti.