ManaByte
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Lower Decks is brilliant. Some of the deep pulls are amazing like the Spock helmet toy.Haven't caught up on Picard yet but Lower Decks was way way better than I thought it was going to be. Glad there is more.
Lower Decks is brilliant. Some of the deep pulls are amazing like the Spock helmet toy.Haven't caught up on Picard yet but Lower Decks was way way better than I thought it was going to be. Glad there is more.
Is there no proper Picard Season 2 thread?
Anyway, just watched the first episode. It was surprisingly decent. A lot of talks that can be skipped, but the end scenes really payed of. Just wondering why Starfleet is back to Voyager uniforms?
Great to see Q again, the deaging looked good. Guinan felt shoehorned in, but short.
Considering the nosedive the first season took, I’m giving it another chance.
It literally is Voyage Home, Picard even says “Kirk’s ship did it multiple times!”
Didn't the Department of Temporal Investigations say that not only was his file the largest but he had 17 documented "violations"?
Now that was a fun DS9 episode. I'll allow its absurd time travel just because it did so as a limited homage to the original without any impact on the broader timeline.The man was a menace.
Sisko mentioned in this episode too.
He's kind of okay but the cigar chomping bullshit just looks stupid on a Starfleet bridge... I dunno.The only cast member I can praise is DeLancie. He is still fully Q in his performance, which is much more than I can say for Patrick Stewart, who I honestly believe is suffering from cognitive decline because he never seems to understandi what's happening in the scenes around him. It's sad that the weakest link on Picard might be Picard himself, but he is either incapable or unwilling to truly act as he once did, and just fumbles through being himself rather than his character.
Guinan was meh, really not much to the scene becaues it lacked her quick witted charm of the original.
I still despise these horrible new characters. I guess the rogue-captain guy is at least funny occasionally, but Agnes is just horrible, i don't know why they keep making us suffer with her onscreen every few minutes.
Shit's so stupid the nerd site isn't even willing to quite go along with what the showrunner is saying. But that's the thing with this fucking show, regardless of the awful plot and characters of the first season... it's the member-berries that really kill it. You want to sprinkle in them berries, at least get shit right. There's no reason the ship had to be a Picard reference. It could have been named just about anything and the end result would have been better.https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Stargazer_(NCC-82893) said:Star Trek: Picard showrunner Terry Matalas was asked whether the new Stargazer was an entirely new ship, or a refit of Picard's original Stargazer. He said:
"Like the TMP Enterprise, it’s a massively updated refit. I like to think of it as the story of the broom: If one day you replace the handle, and another day the brush, is it still the same broom? We thought of it as a vessel endlessly repaired and upgraded, brought in-line with current-future tech, so that somewhere underneath all the lights and polish are the bones of Picard’s original ship. Does it make sense? I don’t know. But I sure like the spirit of it." [1]
Since Rios' Stargazer has a different registry and ship class from the USS Stargazer, Memory Alpha is treating it as a different ship. The observation lounge on the Stargazer contained models of three ships: the Radiant-class Stargazer, Picard's Constellation-class Stargazer, and Rios' Sagan-class ship.
Speaking of the Stargazer... the RLM review mentioned it as well, but in one scene Picard is like "not the same ship as my Stargazer" and then in another calls it a "refit".
Except I quoted the showrunner, and writer of this very episode for that matter saying the exact opposite while admitting that it might not make sense. What a fucking clown-show in the Kurtzman-verse.It's a new ship. They say it's the first of a new class that the Federation built with stuff they learned from the Borg cube artifact.
Except I quoted the showrunner, and writer of this very episode for that matter saying the exact opposite while admitting that it might not make sense. What a fucking clown-show in the Kurtzman-verse.
I watched the episode. The exact opposite is 'spoken in the episode' as well when Picard calls it a refit. The OMG YouTube Outrage video just assumed the writer didn't understand what "refit" means. And then I found the quote from the actual writer who is indicating that he did in fact mean "refit". So, it's even stupider than they thought.It's spoken in the episode. I'm sorry if a YouTube video you watched omitted a fact to push outrage.
Is there even a story of the broom?
I have no idea what that is but it looks very British.
The man on the right claims he's had the same.broom for 25 years, yet it's had 17 new handles and 20 new heads in that time.I have no idea what that is but it looks very British.
I doubt it, no one ever dies on this show. Just get Data's bro to make him another body... the Soongs have basically solved immortality with that transfer, after all, even though everyone just goes on with their lives as if it didn't happen.At least the guy cutting throats is fucking dead. I loved it when the good guys cut open some throats!
Yeah like she wouldn't be found out immediately with her gibberish nonsense in the weird timeline.Its so bad. Agnes makes me want to throw something at my TV for how shit her character is.
At least the guy cutting throats is fucking dead. I loved it when the good guys cut open some throats!
You would be very right, the rest of the Brits will be awake soon.
How the fuck does Pegasus Actual not know what this is from.
That's a hate crime here. Trigger won an award for that broom.
, Picard keeps a collection of skulls from his best kills (looooool)
It was definitely entertaining, I'll say that. I was laughing and pausing to remind my wife who each of these characters are.That part was awesome. Gul Dukat, General Martok, Sarek.
Better GIF, see on this soide of the pond guv'nah, we put the good lookin people on the telly.
How the fuck does Pegasus Actual not know what this is from.
That's a hate crime here. Trigger won an award for that broom.
It’s hilarious how the writers just screened online for “what are the most beloved ST tropes” and
It's probably the most famous British show in our history.Lol the second episode makes the first one such a bait-and-switch.
For the season pilot, they gave us normal Starfleet (it's finally not evil and filled with backstabbing bitches dropping the F- bomb repeatedly), they gave us uniforms with classic inspiration, they gave us the Stargazer, a real bridge and crew, etc
Then in episode 2: nope lol, we're back to the horrible set of that stupid freighter-looking ship that Rios had in season 1, everything is evil and stupid again. Whoops, oh well.
Not to mention, this timeline-changing plot makes no sense. How the hell are they trying to convince us that actions taken back in 2024 would lead to a future in which we have the same damn people in the 24th century (Picard and all the others were still born just the same, so their entire multi-century family lineages worked out exactly as before the big change, despite the world looking completely different ), but our characters are simply cartoonishly evil now.
And boy did they lay it on thick & stupid with the way they made Starfleet evil. It has slaves, Nazi-like aesthetics, Picard keeps a collection of skulls from his best kills (looooool), and it's called "The Confederation" now. Do...do you get it? Like the confederacy, because basically the only kind of "evil" that exists is some mismash of current fantasies of Hitler, racists, and generic authoritarianism. Why are the writers so intellectually childish?? Serious question.
I've never heard of the broom either, nor the show it's from, and I've even watched an unusually large amount of UK shows over the years (grew up watching old Flying Circus, Fawlty Towers, Poirot, Doctor Who, etc etc).
"Those are klingons?"Now that was a fun DS9 episode. I'll allow its absurd time travel just because it did so as a limited homage to the original without any impact on the broader timeline.
This pisses me of so much. The first episode wasn't fantastic by any means, but it was much better than season 1. But nope, here we are already in a mirror universe, where the Federation is evil and Picard is Hitler. What the fuck. Get lost with the mirror universe crap. Yes, it's not 'the' mirror universe, but it might as well is. What a joke. At least I don't have to look at Rios with his sigar on the bridge of a Starfleet vessel. God I hate new Trek.For the season pilot, they gave us normal Starfleet (it's finally not evil and filled with backstabbing bitches dropping the F- bomb repeatedly), they gave us uniforms with classic inspiration, they gave us the Stargazer, a real bridge and crew, etc
Then in episode 2: nope lol, we're back to the horrible set of that stupid freighter-looking ship that Rios had in season 1, everything is evil and stupid again. Whoops, oh well.
"Those are klingons?"
"It is a long story. We do not discuss it with outsiders"
Raffi is a stupid character anyway. Why does she care so much about Elroy? Elrond? Elnor? Jesus christ. What a shitty name.
Why doesnt she understand that to get back to normal time, they need the borg queen more than Elnor?
Is she so mad because Elnor was kind of like her new 'son' after her own son didnt want her as a shitty mother anymore?
Watch Seven break up with her ... She is all fine and dandy while the going is great... But when the going gets rough, she's the ultimate Debbie Downer. I don't understand that.
And Trek fanboy Marc Bernardin is supposed to be show runner or lead writer on this season...
No he's not lmao. He's just one of the twenty-something writers/producers for the show. That's one of the reasons why it'll always be a fucking mess.And Trek fanboy Marc Bernardin is supposed to be show runner or lead writer on this season...
It's literally because Raffi unilaterally decided there needed to be a lesbian romance on the show so she got hand-grabby at the end of the first season. Is there a single writer in Hollywood unwoke enough to criticize such a move? Doubt (X).I honestly don't understand why Seven and Raffi are all of a sudden lesbian for eachother. Like I'd be totally fine with it, if the characters had chemistry, if we saw them have fun together and so something that brings them closer together. Like I didn't really like Chakotay and Seven as a couple but at least they had some chemistry.
Last season they barely interacted together, except the last episodes where they held hands? Like WTF? I dont get it.
Well she was a violent psychopath in season 1. Now she's admonishing Raffi for knocking out some white dude that tried to rob her at gunpoint the instant she materialized in present-day-ish LASeven has also been turned into a psychopathic killer, who would rather resort to violence instead of her intellect.
I understand that she's been seperated from the Borg like a long time already now, but she doesn't even seem to come close to the person she was on Voyager. Her entire personality is different.
Same with Picard ofcourse. Yes he's older and frail (and a robot), but his personality is nothing like the man we saw on TNG.
It's trash.