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What's with all the hate towards MS and Xbox all of a sudden?
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The Verge: Microsoft wants to make the Xbox app the home of PC gaming
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Little Chicken
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There's not a lack, there just should be moreWhere's the lack of competition?
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Millions of Chinese Steam users migrating to a Tencent launcher would be great for that gaming market. Japan should have their own regional PC launcher, perhaps by reputable success and software innovator, Sega
Saggy old tired PlayStation will probably drag it's feet to the party in 10 years when everyone else has
Guesclin
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Oppoi
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Knowing Microsoft they'll be using the stick rather than the carrot and rely on paid shills and astroturf to try and make it happen. I think they'll make sure their games won't work on Linux/SteamOS. Probably because anti cheat or some other excuse.
ZehDon
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Lol, not really. I think Microsoft has realised there's still a lot of value in being second place so long as you're second place everywhere. Second place in consoles, second place in PC, second place in mobile, second place in cloud - it makes their "platform" that much more attractive to potential buy in because it's literally everywhere. No one else has the resources to deploy across that kind of breadth. I don't think it's a "winning" strategy, it's a "we're not leaving money on the table" strategy.
They've literally released patches for their games to specifically add SteamOS support for Steam Deck.
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Syphon Filter
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consoles are different. the pc already had a ui, so its like adding a ui to another ui.
Magic Carpet
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I'm more concerned with the sudden uptick in PC hate around here. It used to be ho hum but it's getting loud this past year.
HogIsland
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The fact that they're talking about improvements to the Xbox App, rather than to Windows shows they're not close. They have to get to where a regular Windows install can optionally boot into a gaming UI with full gamepad support, suspend/resume, etc. Plus like you said, the gaming features in the Xbox app are far from what Steam offers.
Topher
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The Xbox PS war is evolving into the PC PS war, unfortunately. Plenty of hate going in both directions.
Topher
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And that's the case despite publishers getting a large cut of revenue from the Windows store. Says a lot
Ass of Can Whooping
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No point. Once Xbox finally breathes its last i'll be swapping to PC so PS dies anyway.
Futaleufu
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That was the best chance MS ever had to dominate PC gaming, yet they chose to keep their games exclusive for Xbox360, releasing mobile quality games instead and expecting third parties to fill the void.
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Topher
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Oppoi
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Microsoft is a widely branched monopolistic megacorporation. They work several angles at the same time. I do not for a second believe in their support of SteamOS/Linux.
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TheChumpNation
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Competition in this space won't hurt the industry or consumer, so good luck MS.
Knowing MS, they don't have a hope in hell of denting Steam let alone replacing it.
Knowing MS, they don't have a hope in hell of denting Steam let alone replacing it.
Astray
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Totoki is asking that you report in the morning for a stern talking-to.
Guesclin
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PC wasn't as profitable back then, selling hardware and exclusivity was the name of the game.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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He's porting all my games to PC. He may as well port me too
Sebastian1295
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I legitimately can't stop laughing after reading this. The xbox app is freaking terrible and no one is going to use that piece of garbage when you can just use steam which obliterates it.
FunkMiller
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They’re utterly fucking delusional.
HogIsland
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because PCs are consoles. expecting livingroom and handheld users to alt-tab between Xbox and Steam and Epic games is a poor user experience. it has to be one cohesive UI with full gamepad support.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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This dude's gotta be a certified idiot, with a capital R. First off, regulators don't give two shits about consoles having one storefront; you're conflating their issue with certain mobile phone platforms with the console market.
Secondly, this isn't a storefront from Microsoft. It's a catch-all OS-side utility feature that, if it works, will let you launch games with fewer clicks. So instead of having to launch Steam and then launching a game through there, you'd just use this hypothetical app, see your Steam game, select it and then the program handles all the steps to launch it from there.
MS already has a gaming storefront on PC, and it's not Valve's fault that or the other storefronts you mentioned have failed to take significant market share from Steam. Steam's market share, just like PlayStation's in console gaming, is a result of customers in the market choosing one product much more than the alternative. You're not arguing for equality; you're arguing for equity.
In a capital market fueled by competition, equality can lead to successes for the ones offering the best, but equity will always stagnate and decay. You can't argue for equity in a competitive market.
FunkMiller
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If a dog comes into your house and shits on your favourite rug, you don’t give it a cookie, and a pat on the head.
Topher
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Ass of Can Whooping
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That's how we got stuck withAss of Can Whooping
WaterOnix
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It might be improved since I last tried it several years ago, but when I used it I couldn't uninstall a 100gb game no matter what I tried and ended up having to do a fresh install of Windows 10 to get that drive space back. Never had that happen anywhere else, even on Ubisoft's and EA's crappy launchers. It left one hell of a bad impression. I'll continue keeping my distance
Unknown Soldier
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It's because all of the usual suspects who were the biggest Xbox shills here switched to being PCMR because MS makes Windows also and it's absolutely transparent
They should make it just like Games for Windows Live. I think it was just ahead of its time and is clearly a Steam beater.
They are really disrespectful of Valve, who basically made modern PC gaming what it is today. Fix your shit Microsoft before you start mouthing off about being the home of gaming.
They are really disrespectful of Valve, who basically made modern PC gaming what it is today. Fix your shit Microsoft before you start mouthing off about being the home of gaming.
Klayzer
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Ohh great. Bad times ahead
Embrace extend extinguish.
They are not doing any of this for the sake of steam. As long as they depend on windows MS will have the upper hand.
polybius80
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everybody wants steam's place but nobody want to do the same work they did to earn the good will from the community
ZehDon
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"Microsoft will SABBOTAGE their games on SteamOS and Linux! They'll try and CRUSH Valve and Steam!"
"Actually, Microsoft openly support SteamOS and add support for it specifically into their games, and they were the first platform holder to openly embrace Valve's Steam platform dating back close to a decade ago."
"I don't believe them!"
Thebonehead
Gold Member
Yes taking away my ability to sell my pc cd games by giving activation keys on steam with the CD to play.
Those of us that bought half life 2 remember the stink and controversy.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
That was back during the old days of hard drives going bad and losing all your save files. Why didn't you back them up? Everyone should back up their save files.
winjer
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The Xbox app on PC is such an gigantic pile of crap.
So many bugs and issues. And UWP apps are slower, more prone to problems and no support for mods or tweaks.
How does Microsoft intend to compete with any other launcher, when the Xbox app is almost as bad as Games For Windows Live....
So many bugs and issues. And UWP apps are slower, more prone to problems and no support for mods or tweaks.
How does Microsoft intend to compete with any other launcher, when the Xbox app is almost as bad as Games For Windows Live....
HogIsland
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Did Edge adopt Chomium to shore up Google or did they just have to accept their position of weakness? Nobody would say the first, and nobody cares about the 2nd. What matters is what they're doing, and whether they adopt bad policies.
Playstation has lengthy delays, occasionally poor quality outsourced ports, unnecessary PSN account requirements... Am I supposed to prefer that because it doesn't have a catchphrase ending in "extinguish"???
Whatever counter-incentives MS has to be a good actor on Steam, they have been a pretty good actor since roughly 2016. I don't like a lot of their games, but they generally do the basic stuff I want all PC games to do.
{insert code here}
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April Fools is in April, dawg!
Zacfoldor
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Microsoft is coming for Steam, oh yeah, they are coming for your libraries PC fans. They aim to take your platform down and your library with it. Just Iike EGS tried to do, remember? Microsoft hates Steam. Oh they hates it. They were gonna team up with PC influencers and beat Sony and we were going to have a 1000 year utopia on PC where there were no walled gardens and all games were cheap or free.
Then "The Verge" article happened.
Oh Phil, how could you. Of all the things you aim to take down, you choose steam? PC fans rooting for Xbox and pretending like they pay for gamepass were all you had left. They supported you by pretending they were subscribed. Now this betrayal.
Then "The Verge" article happened.
Oh Phil, how could you. Of all the things you aim to take down, you choose steam? PC fans rooting for Xbox and pretending like they pay for gamepass were all you had left. They supported you by pretending they were subscribed. Now this betrayal.
Lions Gate
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Nonehxc
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Stop sucking dick, Whorren.:format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/25785345/XboxAppInsiderHERO.png)
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Microsoft wants to make the Xbox app the home of PC gaming
An interesting move from Microsoft.www.theverge.com
There's such a thing as Dick Induced Dementia. You're living proof of it.
Guess all that money saved from paying zealots is going towards the old whore guard, the 'reputable' media, because lately Whorren has been on a superb dicksucking tour with many panegirical articles about MS strategy and future here, there and everywhere.