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[CityHunter1981]

Perhaps we misunderstood. Biggest technological leap is something which Apple is known for. Since IPhone is also a XBOX, perhaps they speak about that…

 

[OctopusBox]

Launchers on consoles!

Fuck that, if that ever becomes the norm I’m playing exclusively on a Vita til I die.

 

[reinking]

The more I think about it, the more I am losing faith. We hear something similar every generation from Xbox. Of course, they all do it, but Xbox tends to shout it loudly as if to drown the others out. They are starting to remind me of a company that I used to work for. They would always give me good news but would not reveal the bad news that came with it until I asked a follow up question.

The XBox Series X was the "most powerful console ever." Unfortunately, or fortunately for those that want to spin it that way, it was anchored with the generation's least powerful console parity clause. Now we are on to the next, the biggest technological leap. None of us have a clue what they mean. I want to believe they are going to deliver but I am sitting here thinking the answer to the follow up question is not going to be as good news as "the biggest technological leap ever in a generation."

/sad thoughts

 

[RetroGamingUK]

If it’s the same thing, Microsoft also needs to ensure you can play Xbox games on PC so that existing libraries don’t get left behind. Microsoft already built an Xbox 360 emulator for the Xbox One, and I think it will do the same to bring Xbox games to PC. Last month, I wrote about how Microsoft can turn Windows PCs into an Xbox and improve the Windows handheld situation at the same time.

The more I hear about this thing, the more I’m convinced it’s a Windows desktop PC with an Xbox logo stuck on the front.

How that makes it backwards compatible with current Xbox games is anyone’s guess.

 

[Lysandros]

Shame that the XSX didn't sell well, its the best product out there, powerful enough, meticulously designed, sleek, aesthetically pleasing and packed with MS/DirectX tech, clearly it should have decimated PS5 but it has not and I believe its a combination of Xbox Series S + gamepass/netflix type game releases which are also on PC and lack of marketing/word of mouth in many countries outside America.

Opinions opinions.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Shame that the XSX didn't sell well, its the best product out there, powerful enough, meticulously designed, sleek, aesthetically pleasing and packed with MS/DirectX tech, clearly it should have decimated PS5 but it has not and I believe its a combination of Xbox Series S + gamepass/netflix type game releases which are also on PC and lack of marketing/word of mouth in many countries outside America.

• Hardcore gaming enthusiasts have a PC and get gamepass.
• Gaming enthusiasts in most developing countries ((most of the non-mobile gamers are students or mid 30s guys, everyone else is on mobiles grinding candy crush or some mobile battle royale)) have a decent PC (gaming is not a priority) and few of those who have money to spend do subscribe to gamepass but mostly pirate games as the prices MS sets are exorbitant, regional pricing is a shitshow.
• Casuals just get the Series S and plug it and just play, resolution or frames don't matter too much. It's cheap (with pass) and it works.

How the fuck will the XSX sell? Esp. when PS5 is priced similar, has a much more powerful brand image + lot of marketing, lot of first party timed (exlusives) titles and is readily available in most stores/Amazon etc?

Just check the "Rent/Reselling" community in any country and you'll immediately realize which console is winning. Unfortunate because I really like XSX and if I did not have a powerful PC I would have got it.

Let me cut you a slice of reality pie.

The XSX is not the best product out there. Not only does the PS5 routinely outperform the Series X in head to head performance match ups, but the PS5 Digital for far more people is a much better buy and it certainly was even more so at launch when it was 400 dollars compared to 500 dollars. There are many massive differences between the PS5 and XSX aside from price though

• The PS5 actually has a next generation controller where as Microsoft did nothing to deliver an improved controller
• Despite initial reactions from many the PS5 has the better storage expansion solution.
  • 4 years after launch, you can get a PS5 1TB SSD for as cheap as 70 dollars while a 1TB drive on XSX costs 160 dollars (currently on sale for 150)
  • You can get 2TB SSDs for PS5 the price of a 1TB SSD on XSX...
  • A 2TB XSX expansion drive runs 360 dollars (currently on sale for 219)
  • The 4TB XSX expansion drive can only store games, it can't play them
• XSX has no support for VR
• There is no PS Portal equivalent on XSX unless you want to get a PC Streaming device for significantly more money
• Combine that with a significantly better software library and yeah, it's really no contest

That's not even getting into the territory of the PS5 Pro which from the start was a much better buy than the 2TB XSX...

The only real advantages XSX has over PS5 don't really matter much; quick resume and AMD Freesync.

 

[Orbital2060]

Let me cut you a slice of reality pie.

The XSX is not the best product out there. Not only does the PS5 routinely outperform the Series X in head to head performance match ups, but the PS5 Digital for far more people is a much better buy and it certainly was even more so at launch when it was 400 dollars compared to 500 dollars. There are many massive differences between the PS5 and XSX aside from price though

• The PS5 actually has a next generation controller where as Microsoft did nothing to deliver an improved controller
• Despite initial reactions from many the PS5 has the better storage expansion solution.
  • 4 years after launch, you can get a PS5 1TB SSD for as cheap as 70 dollars while a 1TB drive on XSX costs 160 dollars (currently on sale for 150)
  • You can get 2TB SSDs for PS5 the price of a 1TB SSD on XSX...
  • A 2TB XSX expansion drive runs 360 dollars (currently on sale for 219)
  • The 4TB XSX expansion drive can only store games, it can't play them
• XSX has no support for VR
• There is no PS Portal equivalent on XSX unless you want to get a PC Streaming device for significantly more money
• Combine that with a significantly better software library and yeah, it's really no contest

That's not even getting into the territory of the PS5 Pro which from the start was a much better buy than the 2TB XSX...

The only real advantages XSX has over PS5 don't really matter much; quick resume and AMD Freesync.

Build quality. PlayStation 5 feels cheap next to the Series X.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

Yeah, because it has a Playstation logo.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Build quality. PlayStation 5 feels cheap next to the Series X.

It really doesn’t.

 

[Shubh_C63]

Already concept of PC existing and Valve SteamMachine 2.0 is gonna eat Xbox's lunch so hard.

Good luck Microsoft.

 

[Astray]

Build quality. PlayStation 5 feels cheap next to the Series X.

You hold your Series X with your hands every day? What does that ever matter lol?

 

[Smoke6]

if they can actually make the streaming stick work, i think they have a real possibility of a killer product. Just my opinion. But they should release a beefy console running windows, and an xbox branded handheld pc, along with the streaming stick, they could potentially have a killer set up going.

They do have a “streaming stick”!and it’s Amazon’s fire stick!! I haven’t seen one video of gameplay or anything from it!

 

[MayauMiao]

Should be called the Ex-box because Xbox divorce itself from physical console market.

 

[Kerotan]

The next Xbox will be called the playstation 6 and it'll be the best Xbox ever.

 

[Arsic]

$100 cloud gaming device. No discs.

All the games will run on an army of 5090s but be limited to 2 hour play sessions unless you pay for gamepass uber duber for $49.99 a month.

 

[REDRZA MWS]

Different devices

MS will never make the mistake of a 2 sku platform ever again. The S was a debacle and held back the X. They’ll make one powerful next gen console and use all their own devs and the ones purchased will pump out 1st party games.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

MS will never make the mistake of a 2 sku platform ever again. The S was a debacle and held back the X. They’ll make one powerful next gen console and use all their own devs and the ones purchased will pump out 1st party games.

Nope

 

[RetroGamingUK]

MS will never make the mistake of a 2 sku platform ever again. The S was a debacle and held back the X. They’ll make one powerful next gen console and use all their own devs and the ones purchased will pump out 1st party games.

If indeed the next “Xbox” is indeed simply a gaming PC, I think they’ll focus on having a moderate reference point machine.

Something PC devs can focus on in order to optimise a little better, this will have a big impact on PC gaming as a whole.

 

[Pedro Motta]

MS will never make the mistake of a 2 sku platform ever again. The S was a debacle and held back the X. They’ll make one powerful next gen console and use all their own devs and the ones purchased will pump out 1st party games.

Nope, I'm pretty sure it will be the other way around. If they only made 1 SKU it would be like Series S and not X, S is the ones that sold "well" over there.

 

[onQ123]

MS will never make the mistake of a 2 sku platform ever again. The S was a debacle and held back the X. They’ll make one powerful next gen console and use all their own devs and the ones purchased will pump out 1st party games.

No I mean that the handheld & the console are not the same devices.