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UK General Election - 8th June 2017 |OT| - The Red Wedding

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Mr Git

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I find it amazing how all the parties except the Tories plead with voters to do anything to keep the Tories out of power, but all separately bleat that they won't form a coalition nuh uh, never. It's like, fuck sake, why not. I'd vote for that. Call yourselves the Rebel Alliance and job done. I don't think Farron realises that people weren't pissed off at the Lib Dems for forming a coalition, they were pissed off that they formed one with the Conservatives.
 
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Faddy

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Mr Git said:
I find it amazing how all the parties except the Tories plead with voters to do anything to keep the Tories out of power, but all separately bleat that they won't form a coalition nuh uh, never. It's like, fuck sake, why not. I'd vote for that. Call yourselves the Rebel Alliance and job done. I don't think Farron realises that people weren't pissed off at the Lib Dems for forming a coalition, they were pissed off that they formed one with the Conservatives.
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Formal coalitions deals before the election is stupid. That is second guessing the public. Once the votes are counted then deals can be made.

For a 3rd party like the Lib Dems it would be foolish to say they would always support a Labour govt because it calls into question their entire existence.
 
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Bo-Locks

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If you just casually listen to Andrew Neil interviews all you really take in are his constant interruptions and nonsensical soundbites. What value is that supposed to impart on us? The Tim Farron interview was like listening to the 7-way debate at its fucking worst.

He constantly interrupted with "You want to end encryption"! Andrew Neil probably doesn't even know what encryption is, or else he would realise just how silly the question actually is.

What am I meant to glean from watching some old dude constantly interrupt his interviewee with nonsensical questions?
 
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Mr Git

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Faddy said:
Formal coalitions deals before the election is stupid. That is second guessing the public. Once the votes are counted then deals can be made.

For a 3rd party like the Lib Dems it would be foolish to say they would always support a Labour govt because it calls into question their entire existence.
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But the constant iteration that they're not going to form coalitions both demonises the idea and then makes them look like right cunts in the event they do form one. It'd be better to just say they're amenable to forming one, especially for the smaller parties. If voters knew and thought it was a possibility it could encourage those to vote who are feeling a bit hopeless.
 
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Real Hero

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Bo-Locks said:
If you just casually listen to Andrew Neil interviews all you really take in are his constant interruptions and nonsensical soundbites. What value is that supposed to impart on us? The Tim Farron interview was like listening to the 7-way debate at its fucking worst.

He constantly interrupted with "You want to end encryption"! Andrew Neil probably doesn't even know what encryption is, or else he would realise just how silly the question actually is.

What am I meant to glean from watching some old dude constantly interrupt his interviewee with nonsensical questions?
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to vote tory
 
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Audioboxer said:
When the neighbours have different views

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When the neighbours are resorting to trolling

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Faddy

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Mr Git said:
But the constant iteration that they're not going to form coalitions both demonises the idea and then makes them look like right cunts in the event they do form one. It'd be better to just say they're amenable to forming one, especially for the smaller parties. If voters knew and thought it was a possibility it could encourage those to vote who are feeling a bit hopeless.
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Nothing wrong with confidence and supply minority administrations. SNP did it for years in Scotland with little issue.

But then I guess it would take MPs becoming adults rather than sniping children to work together and get things done.
 
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Mr Git

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Faddy said:
Nothing wrong with confidence and supply minority administrations. SNP did it for years in Scotland with little issue.

But then I guess it would take MPs becoming adults rather than sniping children to work together and get things done.
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I.. yeah. The bolded just made me painfully sigh. In a better world.
 
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Randdalf

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I've never actually looked at Andrew Neil's history before. I didn't realise he was editor of the Sunday Times and chairman of Sky at one point.
 
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Spaghetti

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Huw_Dawson said:
Skimming over the /r/ukpolitics thread and it's mostly just people being angry at Andrew Neil.
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Not really surprised.

Andrew Neil wears his biases on his sleeve a bit more than he should considering the BBC's impartiality.

With that said it's even more puzzling May fumbled his softballs.

yes i know that sounds gross
 
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D4Danger

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I wonder if Theresa May is on the phone using her considerable influence and negotiating skills to get Trump to reconsider destroying the planet
 
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excowboy

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Huw_Dawson said:
Skimming over the /r/ukpolitics thread and it's mostly just people being angry at Andrew Neil.
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"Answer the question"

"Funnily enough Andrew, explaining this complex position takes more than ten seconds"

"Just answer the question"

Its not like the public deserve to hear considered positions on complicated social and economics issues so they can make an informed choice or anything... I thought Farron did really well considering the nonsense he was faced with.
 
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Huw_Dawson

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Hazzuh said:
Lol, this thread was loving Neil when he interviewed May, I wonder what changed.
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He went in harder than expected against May - he's chummy with the right of the Tories, so most expected it to be a relatively stately interview.

Then you look at Andrew Neil's interview w/ Farron, which starts off with a loaded question and ascends into farce - that's not being critical, that's attempting to attack someone for 30 minutes.

You see very similar things happen when liberals are on Fox News.
 
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scotcheggz

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Talk radio is currently holding a "debate" jointly organised with the sun right now BTW. It might be worth a listen again if anyone wants to hear some comedy. It's pretty low brow and sounds like it's being run in some pub full of pissed up people, but it's quite spicy.

Vince Cable, Boris Johnson etc.
 
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Coriolanus said:
you'd be wrong. Automation is already on its way and will render the current model irrelevant.

Plus no way around doing that age change without increasing unemployment.
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Yeah, I'm kind of an 'auto-sceptic'. I don't think it's going to replace all jobs, much as I'd love to be sat at home cashing my UBI cheque and catching up on Game of Thrones. It's been "on it's way" for a good old while and we've got more people employed than ever.

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It should be posted whenever someone mentions Neil.
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No it also has to be accompanied by a letter from a reader setting out a tenuous reason for posting it. Those are the best lol
 
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Coriolanus

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QuicheFontaine said:
Yeah, I'm kind of an 'auto-sceptic'. I don't think it's going to replace all jobs, much as I'd love to be sat at home cashing my UBI cheque and catching up on Game of Thrones. It's been "on it's way" for a good old while and we've got more people employed than ever.
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would be quite odd if you thought that. Of course it won't. Only the extinction of the human race would.
 
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King_Moc

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ecosse_011172 said:
Sorry.
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The problem with that question is that, having campaigned to stay, he can't really answer it, can he? If he says brexit is great, he looks disingenuous and flip-floppy. If he says it'll be terrible, he looks like the wrong person to be dealing with it.

I mean, what can he really say?
 
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PowderedToast

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ecosse_011172 said:
Well, not always direct answers:

Q. Is leaving second best?
JC: Leaving is what the decision is. Let’s move on from there.

I prefer him by a mile to Maybot but let's not exaggerate.
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there's being a robot and then there's playing the game. being naive will just get you eaten alive by forces that don't want you to succeed.

thankfully corbyn's learned this without sacrificing his qualities.
 
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OmegaTreeFish

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King_Moc said:
The problem with that question is that, having campaigned to stay, he can't really answer it, can he? If he says brexit is great, he looks disingenuous and flip-floppy. If he says it'll be terrible, he looks like the wrong person to be dealing with it.

I mean, what can he really say?
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Yeah i think its a dumb question all round. The answer is -

"Brexit is not a good idea. But the people that campaigned for it fucked off as soon as they won so the only people left to deal with it are us, the people who wanted to remain. However we accept it is what the country voted for and will get the best deal possible for the country."

Its super god damn obvious and it always annoys me that politics is full of tons of BS like this.
 
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Ravensmash

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I'll be honest, I burst out laughing during that Farron interview.

"Mr Farron, please be quiet... "

"This is not a party political broadcast"

And my old favourite:

"... Get to the point"

I still think Farron is a decent bloke though.
 
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Faddy

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Ravensmash said:
I'll be honest, I burst out laughing during that Farron interview.

"Mr Farron, please be quiet... "

"This is not a party political broadcast"

And my old favourite:

"... Get to the point"

I still think Farron is a decent bloke though.
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Will need to watch this later. I'm sure Andrew Neil was pissed off with the way Farron mocked and diminished Theresa May last night.
 
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