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Valve is "too white"

Buggy Loop

Buggy Loop

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Never seen something more facepalm in my life.

EDITED - I changed the OP so that the video is not getting needless clicks unless you want to go see by yourself, so to misdirect clicks but still see TLDR, the bald goblin shall serve its purpose :




For those who want to see the original video :
Timestamped original video at the DEI talk because there's too much stupid content

Its so cringe that I would not blame you for not watching 47 mins of that. They basically set arbitrary rules of how many women or peoples of colour should be at Valve.

"Part of making any field more diverse is that you have to start introducing diversity into it"

Why is it a necessity to make any field more diverse?

"There are already more middle-aged white guys in the games industry than any other group of people"
Middle-aged? So Steam either retains employees for a long time, or hires seniors to get shit done.
Could there be a link with white peoples being majority in USA? Or the ratio of peoples finishing universities? Imagine if you have seniors, their college years are over 2 decades behind maybe, when the ratio of white in college enrollment was 70%

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How do you even validate having ~15% minorities graduating college, even probably LESS in computer science field as they are dominated by males, to then have 50% or more representation of DEI in a company? The math doesn't check out. It's not organic.

Same for women, I mean the ratio is not in favor of women for computer science. Insert Bill Burr WNBA joke here. Is it also OUR job to convince women to join this field?

Enrollment - Institutional Knowledge Management

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According to this university, the ratio of male vs female in computer science is 4:1. Which is already surprisingly low, I'm sure there was massive progress for that in the past 20 years for sure.

Absolutely MENTAL to critique for that.



Valves hires on merit

and well

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They are more efficient than big tech companies like Apple & Google on revenue per employee

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jshackles

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Their average of $1.3m per employee is only that way because a) Gabe and a few of the upper brass are "employees" of the company and b) their team is so small (about 350 people). Seattle (and Bellevue in particular) are also extremely high cost of living areas, so if I had to guess: 300 of those people are making $250k-$300k a year while another 40 are making $600k-$800k a year, and then 10 people at the top are bringing home $10m each. Then the big guy is probably being paid $250m to bring that average up to $1.3m per employee.
 
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These people don't give a fuck about diversity, they see Valve's cash flow and they want in. That's all it is with these DEI parasites.

Valve is the best example I can think of for staying not going public with your company. They are able to stay aligned with their customers as opposed to public companies who align with their investors and shareholders. Never ever go public.
 
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Moriarty1889

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Fuck these anti white morons and their agenda. Diversity is just their excuse for crying about any majority of white people. Diversity doesn’t mean shite if the people involved aren’t the best at what they do. That is the one thing these race baiters cant get thru their thick skulls. They don’t care about that they just want to look for and cry about racism and diversity. Sad part is a lot of the time it’s usually some guilty little white shit that is doing the crying. They think they will matter more as they fight for the imaginary cause that dominates their pathetic minds.
 
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Soodanim

Soodanim

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HerjansEagleFeeder said:
Please don't give these shit peddlers any attention. YouTube alone is bad enough as it is.
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This is exactly how I feel about this. Let the video die in irrelevancy like it deserves.

Not only do you dignify it by considering it worthy of discussion, but the number of views the video will get by virtue of both the angry posters and the lurkers will only serve to support the channel.

Any time people post these shit videos and articles they're taking the bait. Beat them at their own game by not playing it.
 
Nonehxc

Nonehxc

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Topher said:
Why didn't they hire a minority to present the findings in this YouTube video?

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"diversity crisis"
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That's racist, Mr. Bratt. Why are you so white?

As a lightly tanned( since it's winter) but soon to be deliciousley sexey chocolatey Spaniard, I find your lightning whiteness insulting to my eye.

Furthermore, in a few months when the Sun rapes your hide, I will find your crustacean disposition insulting to the whole universal existence. 😤
 
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Soodanim said:
This is exactly how I feel about this. Let the video die in irrelevancy like it deserves.

Not only do you dignify it by considering it worthy of discussion, but the number of views the video will get by virtue of both the angry posters and the lurkers will only serve to support the channel.

Any time people post these shit videos and articles they're taking the bait. Beat them at their own game by not playing it.
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You could also argue the opposite though, right? That bad ideas like this should be given sunlight so that we can all explain, from multiple points of view, why it's so cringe?
 
Buggy Loop

Buggy Loop

Gold Member
Soodanim said:
This is exactly how I feel about this. Let the video die in irrelevancy like it deserves.

Not only do you dignify it by considering it worthy of discussion, but the number of views the video will get by virtue of both the angry posters and the lurkers will only serve to support the channel.

Any time people post these shit videos and articles they're taking the bait. Beat them at their own game by not playing it.
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I mean I'm not sure putting it under the carpet is the solution.

edited the my original post to hide better the original video and replaced with the bald goblin for TLDR. At least they won't get the click unless someone just wants to see the fuss themselves.
 
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Soodanim

Soodanim

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You could also argue the opposite though, right? That bad ideas like this should be given sunlight so that we can all explain, from multiple points of view, why it's so cringe?
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The negatives outweigh the positives. And the more they're discussed, which will be a lot given that this is a DEI thread, the more the video is "signal boosted" as the kids say.
 
Gaiff

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
jshackles said:
Their average of $1.3m per employee is only that way because a) Gabe and a few of the upper brass are "employees" of the company and b) their team is so small (about 350 people). Seattle (and Bellevue in particular) are also extremely high cost of living areas, so if I had to guess: 300 of those people are making $250k-$300k a year while another 40 are making $600k-$800k a year, and then 10 people at the top are bringing home $10m each. Then the big guy is probably being paid $250m to bring that average up to $1.3m per employee.
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I would love to see the distribution. Average as a statistic is so misleading. One guy makes $1M/year, the other is homeless and makes nothing. They average $500K/year.
 
deriks

deriks

4-Time GIF/Meme God
Buggy Loop said:
the bald goblin shall serve its purpose
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People care more about Asmon than the content haha

@thread
Valve is doing great because they have their own rules. People are bitching about, and guess what? People bitch about ages with Valve and for a lot of different reasons, still, they're doing really great while they basically don't care for any hardware. It's the case of "do nothing. Wins", and they're right to do

Never change, Valve
 
Men_in_Boxes

Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
What if a company hired based on merit alone, but embraced DEI in superficial ways to bump up their ESG woke cred up?

Wouldn't that company have an insane market advantage over those who hired based on immutable characteristics?
 
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