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[abunai]

Still salty about my game crashing to desktop multiple times, costing me a game yesterday

Fidjahdvfil

 

[Shuggananas]

wow ursa fell off who woulda thought

 

[bounchfx]

ursa was such a sad sight in that last fight. dude couldnt do a single thing.

 

[Monochromaticx]

Revert oracle ulti nerf pls

 

[Shuggananas]

please can we make furion unbannable so that alliance can be back ? pls i love my washed up pros

 

[cris7198]

The first big number i think i'm liking the game

 

[Arkanius]

The Desert Terrain is so god damn good.
The visibility is awesome!

 

[Cyborgmatt]

What are you guys doing today? Are practice areas available?

No practice PCs and WCA won't help us with anything. Luckily we brought our own translator so we found a small cafe to goto. It's so fucking cold though, we are all feeling sick. Doesn't help that Yinchuan is basically a ghost town.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Hilarious to see Void's winrate decreasing because his new, obviously more useful skill, is now an active that requires mechanical skill. Pub winrates of heroes correlate highly with difficulty or rather ease of execution.

 

[Shuggananas]

No wonder omniknight is top winrate in pubs

DC lost second game guaranteed

 

[Imp the Dimp]

No wonder omniknight is top winrate in pubs

His win% is very high in 5k+ too to be fair. The overall pub winrate consists of 72.5% normal bracket games however.

 

[Pyros_Eien]

No practice PCs and WCA won't help us with anything. Luckily we brought our own translator so we found a small cafe to goto. It's so fucking cold though, we are all feeling sick. Doesn't help that Yinchuan is basically a ghost town.

Yeah there was that reddit post about how there's not even the grand finals on stage too and shit. Started late, technical issues, they're already like a couple hours behind schedule, sounds kinda terrible.

Interesting there hasn't been an earth spirit yet(I think, haven't checked all games). I guess the nerf to the pull was really a big deal.

 

[Anbokr]

there was an earth spirit game and he was also banned several times. i'm surprised no one has tried TB yet tho (i think he's been second/third round banned a couple times as well tho)--he's still got all of his old weaknesses (fragile, illusions are paper), but new reflection is insane and more than makes up for those deficiencies imo

i guess in this age of tusk and undying all over ur dick tho it's hard to get some space/time as a TB with like 400 base hp. EE SAMA SHOW US THE WAY

 

[Pureauthor]

Hilarious to see Void's winrate decreasing because his new, obviously more useful skill, is now an active that requires mechanical skill. Pub winrates of heroes correlate highly with difficulty or rather ease of execution.

But Lone Druid's WR has increased and the same thing happened to him getting a new active.

 

[Arkanius]

Riki vs PL

http://www.gfycat.com/LiveInsignificantFlatfish

 

[TUSR]

dunno what I think of the radiant jungle now

 

[t0rment]

TB is only good against dumb people. the hero has 1000 hp at 20 minutes and now you can see who's the real one, any half decent coordinated team can blow in up in a team fight in 2 secs.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

But Lone Druid's WR has increased and the same thing happened to him getting a new active.

That's interesting. Perhaps it's due to LD's low pickrate compared to Void's whose pickrate is like 4x higher so LD's variance would naturally be higher. I'm not sure though. Looking at the top win rate heroes, ease of hero mechanics is clearly the dominating contributor to high win rates.

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

dunno what I think of the radiant jungle now

I'm just really confused all the time while in the jungle

 

[t0rment]

see? terrorblade is pure trash.

 

[Shuggananas]

Riki vs PL

http://www.gfycat.com/LiveInsignificantFlatfish

eh, ember does that every 6 seconds
Riki's ult is good even if enemies aren't stacked, backstab gives him a lot of damage, also it comboes well with enemies getting stunned/heavily slowed, while SoF is only a one hit thing

 

[Cyborgmatt]

Played Sand King today with the Aether and new Scepter. So much fun.

see? terrorblade is pure trash.

Yup. The new Terrorblade is pretty shit. Doubt we will see him much unless someone finds a way to make him work.

 

[Shuggananas]

drow pick CDEC vs TNC

 

[JambiBum]

Venge really didn't want to play against CDEC.

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Pls nerf Gyro and Tusk more

 

[Monochromaticx]

yeah tusk need to be thrown in with techies in shitholeville

 

[marrec]

yeah tusk need to be thrown in with techies in shitholeville

Just make it to where his snowball melts in Jak and Bats fires. Boom done.

 

[Shuggananas]

divide snowball cooldown and damage by two, it worked for techies right

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

snowball travels less/slower when there's multiple people inside.

 

[H13]

Played Sand King today with the Aether and new Scepter. So much fun.

Yup. The new Terrorblade is pretty shit. Doubt we will see him much unless someone finds a way to make him work.

tagged , if puppan pick tb for EE

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Slower snowball, that's all I need.

 

[Shuggananas]

TNC slaughters CDEC then CDEC slaughters TNC

 

[Red UFO]

Dazzle needs another nerf too, especially now WW isn't in CM anymore, I still don't think there's a better role 5 in the game.

 

[t0rment]

wow, arc warden is quite hard to play.

 

[Acinixys]

wow, arc warden is quite hard to play.

Hes on the same level as meepo/chen

If you cant micro 4+ units you're not going to do much with him

 

[Shuggananas]

How so ?
He's a mini meepo imo, and even then his ult is less punishing than meepo
There's a huge difference between two units micro and 3+ units micro tbh

 

[marrec]

Slower snowball, that's all I need.

What if you could Eul's the entire snowball?

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Hes on the same level as meepo/chen

If you cant micro 4+ units you're not going to do much with him

There's only 2 units at best(I'm not counting manta) and there's zero punishment for losing your clone. The hard part is that you have to keep track of the spells and items of two different heroes and if that's too much to handle then you're better off playing a different hero, I'm sure he's trash tier without his ult(if not, he's broken).

 

[DrPizza]

The Desert Terrain is so god damn good.
The visibility is awesome!

I had no idea that cactus was as delicious and refreshing as tree!

Hilarious to see Void's winrate decreasing because his new, obviously more useful skill, is now an active that requires mechanical skill. Pub winrates of heroes correlate highly with difficulty or rather ease of execution.

The new skills obviously gives you more control, but I'm not sure it's "more useful". Backtrack could save your life, letting you dodge lethal damage. The new timewalk cannot.

 

[Shuggananas]

I had no idea that cactus was as delicious and refreshing as tree!

You can actually eat cacti.

 

[inkls]

nerfing stacking doesn't nerf jungling. Junglers like enigma, chen and ench rarely do stacks by themselves. It hurts heroes with aoe clears like qop, ta, storm, sf, who use those stacks to catch back up. They might make it that mud golems generate a magic resist aura to make it harder to clear larger stacks similar to when they added that passive to one of the ancient that gave aoe creeps more hp.

wildwing tornado and satyr shockwave are both magic; adding magic resist immediately and dramatically affects the two most useful spells for chench to clear camps

they could just increase the dmg of the two abilities to make up for it.

alternatively change their damage types. That said, I don't think magic resist is the answer. Lots of heroes utilize magic damage spells to farm that aren't abusing the jungle like storm or SF or TA do. Slark, for instance.

they wouldn't add magic resist anyway; so many non-carries would be nerfed in the process (centaur, junkiro, ogre, etc. etc. etc.)

yup.

Think the best way to nerf jungle abuse is to nerf the specific heroes. No need for changes to the jungle itself. Though perhaps some jungle geography changes would be appropriate. make stacking/farming from mid less trivial.

inkls was right, moblin and normalfish were left

 

[marrec]

You can actually eat cacti.

Grew up in New Mexico and we fried up Prickly Pear Cactus all the time, damn good eating.

 

[Shuggananas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHX5NArspxg

hardcore nostalgia
Played this beauty when I was 8, had to beg my parents to get it rofl

Spoiler

Never made it past the third level without cheats, so hard at that age

 

[Monochromaticx]

inkls was right, moblin and normalfish were left

inkls = ice frog
explains why you have been away for awhile. working hard on the patch.
you also like to shitpost about patches being out before they actually are, toying with us for amusement, because you knew the real time it will be out. YOU KNEW!

 

[Shuggananas]

I was the one to coin atos disabling some evasion

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

inkls was right, moblin and normalfish were left

You got that from me you pos

 

[Kade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stPZjNPGaK8

 

[Shuggananas]

will never beat the GOAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ykbVt1ZaJM

 

[Gully State]

No wonder omniknight is top winrate in pubs

DC lost second game guaranteed

What's the context here? I dunno about the higher levels but here in sub 3k mmr, I pick omni with regularity because the opposing team seems to like to pick physical damage heavy lineups.

 

[Cyborgmatt]

tagged , if puppan pick tb for EE

I mean if Jacky Mao can't make TB work I think there's no hope for that hero.