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[Windom Earle]

Oh boy

What makes this is how incredibly smug this bitch is while lecturing everyone with propaganda. Just like real life.

 

[Jesb]

How can anyone even take any reviews seriously anymore when there’s shit like this that’s the shit stain of the industry.

 

[GymWolf]

Luke Stephens and JorRaptor are discussing the fallout while ignoring the elephant in the room

Shill up also completely ignored the woke shit.

I know people have an hard on for that guy, but not informing a potential buyer that the game is progressive as a whole fuck is terrible for a reviewer, the dude try to not make everyone mad but it's his fucking job to tell me that the game is the most egregious woke piece of trash ever created.
If you listen to his review you would think that being childish and without edge is the major problem of the writing...

 

[Danjin44]

Oh boy

I’m someone who doesn’t call every little thing “woke”……. but my god that scene, this is “M” rated medieval fantasy game but it treats its players like they are toddlers, this as bad as modern Disney CG movies.

 

[Windom Earle]

Shill up also completely ignored the woke shit.

Yes and somehow Resetards still lost their shit and he is banned. I give him some credit for the review but how can you completely ignore the elephant in the room as a reviewer is fucking crazy.

 

[GymWolf]

I typically like this guy too, but I was bummed he didn't go into any detail really on the actual writing and dialogue. I appreciate that Skillup gave pointed examples on why it was so bad, which matches all these absolutely cringe ass scenes were starting to see now.

Morts seemed way more 10,000 foot view. I dont think he got paid to shill or anything, but I was let down by his review overall he couldnt specifically counter any of the negativity. Surprised someone who is such a massive RPG guy completely passed over commenting on the state of the writing.

What is the fucking point of making 100% completion reviews if he doesn't go deep with the explanation?

 

[GymWolf]

Yes and somehow Resetards still lost their shit and he is banned. I give him some credit for the review but how can you completely ignore the elephant in the room as a reviewer is fucking crazy.

Dude try to play both roles to not get any side mad, i personally think he is a spineless bitch for doing so, especially when the liberals already hate you and you have nothing to lose.

In my eyes you are a shit reviewer if you don't even briefly talk about the absolute dogshit writing of this game, not having edge or being childish is clearly not the biggest problem here.

 

[Big Baller]

 

[missiles]

This game is the ultimate bait and switch. Pretending to be one thing but actually being something else entirely. Lying about its identity and concealing its true self until it's too late and people have already committed to it.

Hmmm.

 

[Ammogeddon]

I am almost lost for words. So basically, saying sorry for misgendering is not enough, you have to do press ups as penance?

 

[SmokedMeat]

Looking forward to Mac’s review on Worth a Buy. If there’s any woke shit in this game, then he won’t be pulling punches like others do.

 

[PeteBull]

Jesus Christ, how did EA allow them to do this? How did this pass focus testing?

Toxic positivity bro, same like with concord, u critique clowns and are automatically described as hitlers and stalins stepchild

 

[PeteBull]

Shill up also completely ignored the woke shit.

I know people have an hard on for that guy, but not informing a potential buyer that the game is progressive as a whole fuck is terrible for a reviewer, the dude try to not make everyone mad but it's his fucking job to tell me that the game is the most egregious woke piece of trash ever created.
If you listen to his review you would think that being childish and without edge is the major problem of the writing...

Indeed, he didnt have to say much, but he defo should mention at least with sentence or two even if its bit cloaked, aka "game is made for modern progressive audience" if he didnt want to tackle that woke shit directly.

 

[PeteBull]

Looking forward to Mac’s review on Worth a Buy. If there’s any woke shit in this game, then he won’t be pulling punches like others do.

There is tons, and its all over the net now, all the most nasty things

 

[cormack12]

When do user reviews go live

 

[xVodevil]

This game is the ultimate bait and switch. Pretending to be one thing but actually being something else entirely. Lying about its identity and concealing its true self until it's too late and people have already committed to it.

Hmmm.

Makes me think of when there was an idea to make James Bond female. Like isn't it much more convenient to hijack something popular and established rather than coming up with your own IP?
I wonder now how much actual Dragon Age is underneath all this. Some of the environments did look cool from what I saw, but basically that's the only thing I managed to find appealing...

 

[GHG]

When do user reviews go live

 

[PeteBull]

Looks like none of the reviews warns us about woke shit in the game, and i dont even mean sellout max or close to max score reviews.
Even this one, from polish site cd-action which only gave 6/10 score(and when u read actual review it all feels like 2/10 game, it has so many flaws described, 95% of sentences in the review literally describe flaws of the game, no jokes.
Yet not even one word or sentence, even camouflaged one, that warns players of how woke-infested that game is

Dragon Age: The Veilguard – recenzja. Miał być grą roku, a tu nie ma nawet pełnoprawnego RPG – CD-Action

Biorąc się za pisanie recenzji Dragon Age’a: Straży Zasłony, trudno nie czuć się trochę jak saper na polu minowym.

cdaction.pl

U guys can use auto-translators obviously, since i understand most ppl here cant speak polish.
But even short english description that is given for metacritic site says it all:

Dragon Age: Veilguard leaves us with the impression that we bought the wrong title. Instead of a true RPG, we get a mediocre action adventure game. A scenario stretched to the limit, a poorly constructed world and monotonous gameplay bored me to tears.

Edit: Luckily in the comments some polish players called the game "lgbt simulator" ;D

 

[BbMajor7th]

Oscar level writing and acting

"I'm going to be using 'they' instead of 'she' from now on. By which I mean, I'll be asking everyone else to use 'they' instead of 'she' from now on, because it's weird to refer to yourself in the third person. And, really, I'm only asking you to do it when I'm not here because it's also kind of weird to refer to people in the third person when they're standing right there. So, essentially, when you're talking to me, I'll still be saying 'I' and you'll still be saying 'you', but when I leave the room and you're talking to somebody else about me privately, I'd like you to do as I've asked. Please don't be bigoted about my desire to tell you how you should talk about me when I'm not there."

 

[rotorfire]

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Oh boy

A new lowbar for video games.

 

[Randall365]

Annoying that I got perma banned from Resetera because I accidentally referred to Elliot Page as a she because I was talking about their role in Beyond Good and Evil when they should have just made me do 10 press ups. Who do I complain to about this?

 

[GHG]

Game got banned in the UAE.

 

[PeteBull]

Annoying that I got perma banned from Resetera because I accidentally referred to Elliot Page as a she because I was talking about their role in Beyond Good and Evil when they should have just made me do 10 press ups. Who do I complain to about this?

Thats a badge of honor, not a reason to complain tho, u didnt give in to insananity, if arnold changes name to arnoldina he is still the same person, aka man, same way ellen page is still a woman, even with changed name.

 

[rochet]

Game got banned in the UAE.

 

[Tokio Blues]

Steam and user reviews will be something else...

 

[Madflavor]

What’s hilarious about that non-binary scene is the game lecturing the player that if you apologize for misgendering someone, you’re either not really sorry and just want to move on, or you are sorry and are trying to make it about yourself. But “pulling a barve” (aka pushups) shows that you’re truly willing to atone for your mistake. How exactly is breaking out into pushups not making it about yourself, and bringing 100% of the attention to you?

Have we gone beyond Full Retard? Is this the next level? Have we reached Ultra Instinct Tardation?

 

[Denton]

What’s hilarious about that non-binary scene is the game lecturing the player that if you apologize for misgendering someone, you’re either not really sorry and just want to move on, or you are sorry and are trying to make it about yourself. But “pulling a barve” (aka pushups) shows that you’re truly willing to atone for your mistake. How exactly is breaking out into pushups not making it about yourself, and bringing 100% of the attention to you?

The level of lacking self-awareness at Bioware and among far leftist morons in general is kinda mindblowing, ngl

 

[shubik]

I don't know who is worse: the overly woke crowd or the butthurt right-wingers who basically fill their entire existence with anti-woke content, posting to indulge in their hate for different opinions and lifestyles.

Y'all are both equally insufferable and contribute to the destruction of our beloved hobby. Absolutely mental what people write on here. Get a life.

its a work of fiction. And creators get to choose what they create. Thats called creative freedom. You dont like what they produce? Dont buy it. Simple as that. Nodboy ows you anything. Even if you are a fan.

 

[SidViscous]

Imagine if this was classic BioWare and you had the renegade option just to slap them.

 

[UnrealEck]

I don't know who is worse: the overly woke crowd or the butthurt right-wingers who basically fill their entire existence with anti-woke content, posting to indulge in their hate for different opinions and lifestyles.

What's your definition of right wing?

 

[ManaByte]

Isn't this your personal head canon/fanfiction?

Nope

Grummz Activision Blizzard Breast Milk Thief Rumor | Know Your Meme

Grummz Activision Blizzard Breast Milk Thief Rumor refers to a Twitter / X rumor involving internet users who jokingly accuse anti-woke poster and video ga

knowyourmeme.com

 

[shubik]

What's your definition of right wing?

Not interested in going deeper on political ideologies. Call them right-wingers, conservatives, Republicans, Proud Boys, or whatever else they identify as. I think it is clear who I mean by that.

 

[Sentenza]

Nope

Grummz Activision Blizzard Breast Milk Thief Rumor | Know Your Meme

Grummz Activision Blizzard Breast Milk Thief Rumor refers to a Twitter / X rumor involving internet users who jokingly accuse anti-woke poster and video ga

knowyourmeme.com

I mean... Your very source is basically confirming that it's made-up bullshit that someone spouted randomly "for shit and giggles" and somehow stuck.

 

[AJUMP23]

Isn't this your personal head canon/fanfiction?
As far as I remember the "breast milk theft" was mentioned a couple of years ago during the drama about "Blizzard being a toxic environment" (and God knows if it wasn't a complete exaggeration). This man hasn't been with the company for what? 12-14 years at this point?

I think the dude is a complete moron, but labeling him as a pervert and blaming him of a crime with no evidence just because people don't like him seems more than a bit unfair, if not even slimy.

EDIT - It also seems like it was a one-time thing and not a recurring situation?

Is this West Texas CEO

 

[kruis]

I don't know who is worse: the overly woke crowd or the butthurt right-wingers who basically fill their entire existence with anti-woke content, posting to indulge in their hate for different opinions and lifestyles.

Y'all are both equally insufferable and contribute to the destruction of our beloved hobby. Absolutely mental what people write on here. Get a life.

its a work of fiction. And creators get to choose what they create. Thats called creative freedom. You dont like what they produce? Dont buy it. Simple as that. Nodboy ows you anything. Even if you are a fan.

It's also about sending a message to EA and other companies trying to do the same shit. Bad sales can be explained by all kinds of logical leaps: art style wasn't suitable for a WRPG, the game play was too different from previous Dragon Age entries, etc etc. But when the game gets laughed at and ridiculed by the core audience for these games, they'll know that "Go woke go broke" is real.

 

[ManaByte]

I mean... Your very source is basically confirming that it's made-up bullshit that someone spouted randomly "for shit and giggles" and somehow stuck.

The Overwatch community found the guy who did it bragging about doing it on 4Chan and we know Grummz is a 4Chan user.

 

[Sentenza]

Is this West Texas CEO

What? Who? What are you asking here?

 

[Ivory Samoan]

Morts always been a mile wide and inch deep, largely driven by the pace of his output and 100% completion target. Downside is he never has time, or desire, to really drill down on any particular mechanic.

Come on now, Morts is the shit - he goes balls deep on the games he loves (Owlcat/Larian etc) but his reviews? Maybe a little moreso than waffle on Ralph, (I actually love Skillup too, but he can waffle on),.. It feels like the angst has gone too far now, dial it back to normal levels, let's try and enjoy, or not-enjoy it as people with relevant opinons.

Morts and Skillup are both based, and I think it's fine they have very opposite sides of the tape.

 

[AJUMP23]

What? Who? What are you asking here?

I want to know if he also stole breast milk. Lunches and milk from his co-workers

 

[UnrealEck]

Not interested in going deeper on political ideologies. Call them right-wingers, conservatives, Republicans, Proud Boys, or whatever else they identify as. I think it is clear who I mean by that.

I think plenty of people outside those descriptions dislike this ideology being constantly pushed.

 

[Sentenza]

The Overwatch community found the guy who did it bragging about doing it on 4Chan and we know Grummz is a 4Chan user.

Damn, so he was on 4chan at some point, like the ALLEGED self-confessed culprit of the theft (which was 100% not a troll) and few millions of other people.
This clearly holds up as OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE stacked against him.

Are you for fucking real?

 

[shubik]

I think plenty of people outside those descriptions dislike this ideology being constantly pushed.

so? Movies, music, arts in generel, and offcourse video games are made by people. And all of them will always have political ideas, preferences, believes etc. Why is the mere mention of these kind of aspects/topics already enough for you to dismiss the whole product? I really dont get that. Every single medium created has some kind of underlying agenda. Thats how it works.

 

[Humdinger]

I see the Grummz clip has this covered, but here is Asmon's clip for good measure. He sums it up nicely at the end: "This is not dialog. It's a sermon."

 

[PeteBull]

I don't know who is worse: the overly woke crowd or the butthurt right-wingers who basically fill their entire existence with anti-woke content, posting to indulge in their hate for different opinions and lifestyles.

Y'all are both equally insufferable and contribute to the destruction of our beloved hobby. Absolutely mental what people write on here. Get a life.

its a work of fiction. And creators get to choose what they create. Thats called creative freedom. You dont like what they produce? Dont buy it. Simple as that. Nodboy ows you anything. Even if you are a fan.

We got freedom to critique games or entertainment, hell even worldviews we dont agree on, that is freedom too.
Todays "insuferable" rightwinger(and im not even american btw, im from europe) would be called moderate in the 80s/90s.

We not only not gonna buy woke infested games(which so happens are almost always of terrible quality, despite paid off reviews from professional journos), but we will call this shit out, and warn other sane ppl about it,
That doesnt mean we tell other ppl what or what not to buy/play, we just wanna even the playing field- same propaganda mashine that is in favour of the clownworld has to be met with reality/biology and reasoning that shows all kinds of flaws and insanities of this indoctrination.

Same way u will have christian/muslim or even some weird sects zealots trying to "convert" ppl to their beliefs, same way we see wokeism, as a secular religion 2.0- super dangerous to western world, with clear and visible negative consequences that affect every aspect of world we live in(education, culture, entertainment, work, relationships, even history is trying to be rewritten).

 

[Madflavor]

Imagine if this was classic BioWare and you had the renegade option just to slap them.

Mass Effect 1 gave you the option to punch a woman, genocide a race, have a xenophobic party member in your crew, shoot your one of your crew during a disagreement, among other things.

That Bioware is long gone.

 

[shubik]

We got freedom to critique games or entertainment, hell even worldviews we dont agree on, that is freedom too.
Todays "insuferable" rightwinger(and im not even american btw, im from europe) would be called moderate in the 80s/90s.

We not only not gonna buy woke infested games(which so happens are almost always of terrible quality, despite paid off reviews from professional journos), but we will call this shit out, and warn other sane ppl about it,
That doesnt mean we tell other ppl what or what not to buy/play, we just wanna even the playing field- same propaganda mashine that is in favour of the clownworld has to be met with reality/biology and reasoning that shows all kinds of flaws and insanities of this indoctrination.

Same way u will have christian/muslim or even some weird sects zealots trying to "convert" ppl to their beliefs, same way we see wokeism, as a secular religion 2.0- super dangerous to western world, with clear and visible negative consequences that affect every aspect of world we live in(education, culture, entertainment, work, relationships, even history is trying to be rewritten).

But thats the point. A lot of the people on here are not "calling it out" or "even the playing field" they are insulting and beat down on a certain group of people. The amount of crazy shit I have read the last couple of days is just insane. You are not fighting "the good fight" You are fuming over a fucking videogame on a videogame forum. Get a grip (not directed to you personally

 

[ElFenomeno]

so? Movies, music, arts in generel, and offcourse video games are made by people. And all of them will always have political ideas, preferences, believes etc. Why is the mere mention of these kind of aspects/topics already enough for you to dismiss the whole product? I really dont get that. Every single medium created has some kind of underlying agenda. Thats how it works.

So...they're gonna vote with their wallet and not going to buy the product.
And yes, of course you can inject politics and beliefs into your art...but do it with wit and intelligence not like this.
Plus..the game's shit mate. If the combat was top tier and the story/characters, gameplay good, I'd probably get it at some point even if I'd have to suffer through Taash's backstory.
However, as it stands, its a no buy from me.

 

[Joel Was Right]

Steam reviews will be pointless; game is divisive without even people playing it yet. I’m going to watch a live stream and make up my own mind as to the quality of the dialogue and world building.

 

[Exede]

Is the woke stuff here cherry picking to get some reactions or is it really all over the place Concord Style?
I really don't know.