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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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ResidentDante
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Yeah, it's written on the back of the GT5 box: 800 low-polygon GT4 old-school PS2 cars in HD.user friendly said:
Guy Legend
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ResidentDante said:
GT5 is backwards compatible with GT4. It's a feature.
That makes it sound a lot better. Mingling the two would have been a disaster. As long as the game clearly informs the player of the difference, it makes a lot more sense.CozMick said:
Those standard cars look absolutely awful. Really shows how much was hidden by poor image quality on PS2. I noticed a lot of the texture issues, but it never stood out like this.
Windom Earle
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Fallout-NL said:
After spending around three hours with the game I can say that the physics are absolutely on point (Driving aids off, PRO wheel settings). Forza can't really compare, it feels so stiff compared to this. You can really feel the small nouances of driving at the limit of your car. Over/Understeering feels very real. I only played Forza with a controller though so take that with a grain of salt.
Also low poly track geometry? Hell no! :lol
Some low res shadows and tearing are obvious but do not really affect the amazing overall package.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Wrong thread for "grain of salt" talk. Take a definitive stance already, you're either on one side or the other!schennmu said:
Windom Earle
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XiaNaphryz said:Wrong thread for "grain of salt" talk. Take a definitive stance already, you're either on one side or the other!
I think my post makes quite clear that I prefer GT's driving model
. Also MS fucked up by having such weird wheel support on the 360. I'm using my old PS2 Driving Force wheel and it works like a charm with GT5.ResidentDante said:
Not all standard cars are modelled with the same assets or textures. Many have been re-done.
Case in point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af55W5rlo8o
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
My Fanatec works fine for either platform, so no complaints from me.schennmu said:
Windom Earle
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XiaNaphryz said:
Yep, Fanatec is the only solution afaik?
Pepto said:
Some people are trying hard :lol
rollingstart
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Dreams-Visions said:
yeah, I don't think Forza 3 looks bad at all, but their style is so blah. Even Forza 1 against GT4 showed how PD was better even with lesser hardware. And keeping it on the Xbox 360 alone, both PGR games are much nicer to look at (though, I'd say the PGR games are nicer than GT games too, but it is my favorite racing series and I'm hardly being neutral).
Metalmurphy
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Pepto said:
You do know that's not even photo mode right? It's a pure and simple CG render.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Have you forgotten what thread you're in?Metalmurphy said:
LabouredSubterfuge
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SmokyDave said:Ohhhhh man. The next 12 hours are going to kill me. I'm never going to get to play GT5
C'mon Smoky, pop a Rohypnol in a brew, chug it down, tomorrow you'll be right as rain and primed for GT5.
rocksteady1983
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Are the standards low poly, sure. But anyone can take a shitty picture like that to show flaws. If you actually know how to take pictures this really isnt much of an issue. And if you dont take pictures, seeing these in motion are definitely not an issue. I took these in GT4.Pepto said:
Fallout-NL
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CozMick said:
Exactly what are you implying?
Sickboy007
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the biggest problem is that they're not properly filtered. they literally took the models and put them in the game.
Man, that reminds me of all the 'THEY LIED" stuff over posting pics from photomode as 'gameplay' shots.Firewire said::lol
Just playing with you Che!
Kind of funny to see some of the same people so irate over that now posting pics from GT5's photomode and saying that's what it looks like "in-game" lol
Also now ironically hilarious - the correlation between the people dismissing the low-res GT5 pic and those who continually posted the poor Forza 3 shot of some blue car...a Miata maybe?
What I don't get is why PD didn't just make more premium models with the time, money and effort they spent on upressing the standard cars? Surely most people would prefer 300 premium cars with fully and highly detailed models, proper and unique sounds, higher quality physics and damage modelling over 200 premiums and 800 GT4 cars.
rocksteady1983
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Thats what its looking like, you would have thought they could have up-converted them a bit to smooth the edges or something.Sickboy007 said:
h3ro said:
I'm acting like a racing game fan nitpicking GT5. I really am looking forward to the game. Just disappointed that standard cars turned out the way they did.
Also, there are some really bizarre design decisions re: damage in GT5. Apparently, you need to level up in GT Life to unlock more advance stages of visual damage. JUST VISUAL DAMAGE. There is no mechanical damage in the game.
WTF?
Guardian Bob
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My only complaint with GT5 is seeing some of the jaggy and poppy shadows.
Ploid 3.0
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I look at the standard + premium thing as a fighter mega all-stars type thing where you have Morrigan with the same sprites as she has always had + the new character with better sprites. Do I want to sacrifice 5 characters for 1 higher sprite detail character? Gameplay wise, no. I'm going to utilize every car that benefits me, especially since this thing is like a rpg. I might even move up quicker because of it, and I don't use chase cam so it won't matter anyway. I'm glad they were able to give us a ton of cars, this is how it turned out, and like the guy that has the game said, it's not that big of a deal outside of no cockpit, and the viewing angles.
chespace said:
There is mechanical damage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XINuNcmXfLI&feature=player_embedded
Mr_Brit said:
the thing is no one here really knows just how many more premium cars could have been made if the standard cars were dumped entirely.
maybe it means 300 premiums. maybe it only means 250. that delta in the effort required between cleaning up the standards and creating new premiums is only known by PD.
my own preference for GT6 (should it be on PS3) is for them to dump the standards and get the premium number up to around 400 or more. I think it's fine for GT5 to have this transition in models but it shouldn't be something they need to hold onto for a new game.
chespace said:
There is mechanical as posted by many.
And visual and mechanical go hand in hand so that you don't have a busted car visually that still drives at top speed because the mechanical is not on.
Essentially the damage starts at off and gets progressively stronger as you level up. Sort of a difficulty progression in the career from easy to difficult.
But I guess you are right, this would be better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UArtuEj8Ng
theignoramus
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Che, puttin' in work.:lolchespace said:
Mechanical damage is in. Sorry to dissapoint.
http://www.youtube.com/user/christheimperator#p/u/7/9k2XS9b0DsM
Dreams-Visions
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interesting.Yoboman said:
seems people have gone into overdrive in defending GT5's honor here. I think that given the years (literally) of heavy critique of Forza 3' graphics and issues, critique and honesty is just as warranted here. It's certainly not a perfect game...and no game is. And if people had no problems dishing it out since Forza 3's launch, they really shouldn't have a problem taking it now.
that being said, the GT5 experience still looks clearly better. again, it has something to do with the lighting to me and it always has. PD just did a brilliant job with that element, and hopefully their competitors take notes. Because as I said earlier, Forza's lighting often times made the game look much more toyish when compared directly to GT5 Prologue and beyond.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lolMetalmurphy said:
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I know you're like committed to the protection of this game. But c'mon, son. It gets just as tiring to see complaints as it does to see people constantly trying to spin shit gold necklaces. "as bonuses?" really? the fuck outta here with that. the game has some flaws and a few eyesores mixed in the brilliance. it's neither a reason to be a ball of negativity towards the game nor a moment to engage marshal law and dismiss all the concerns as if they don't exist. as if any of this is going to *really* affect anyone's enjoyment of the game at the end of the day anyway.
games can exist with flaws and be fine. THAT is the point. Those who can't accept that weren't buying the game anyway.
swear to god, there's nothing worse than watching fanboys operate from post to post.
I agree with this. Considering the quality of the current engine and robust online included in GT5, it certainly seems like it should be possible for them to spend the next couple of years focusing primarily on the AI and premium cars. And maybe the physics? I'm hearing mixed reports about that.LCfiner said:
I'm still very apathetic to heavy damage, so maybe they can save that for GT7 or something. let's improve the cars and AI and go from there.