theignoramus
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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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LiquidMetal14
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mckmas8808
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Again it doesn't look much different at all. This looks great for the game.
CrushDance
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But there's also in game stuff that proves GT5's graphical prowess. Nothing to argue about there.Keikoku said:
I really look forward to what Polyphony does with damage. So far Dirt 2 and Shift have the best damage modeling I've seen; but it still feels pre fab. I'd like to see Polyphony live up to their ideal to take damage to a new level. Something all future racers will have to meet.
So, I just played the Forza 3 Demo. It seems like a very competent racer. Very smooth, good handling, nice collisions, good KI it seems. Nice.
However, regarding the graphics imo this game isn't even close to GT5rologue. I mean seriously, I only saw the screenshots before and the ingame graphics definitly look worse. The Aliasing is very visible, the car detail seems to be good, but not in the league of GT5. The Cockpit view and the graphics in the cockpit (also regarding to the lighting) is behind GT5 by a mile, imo. The game doesn't look great at all from the cockpit view. It may have more complex surroundings...but I don't know, something just looks off. GT5 in comparison still looks like a game of course, but everything is so realistic in comparison to Forza...
Really, if you compare the bullshots the games seem to be close but if you see them running side by side especially in the cockpit view, GT5 looks a lot better. And that's only Prologue...
However, regarding the graphics imo this game isn't even close to GT5
rologue. I mean seriously, I only saw the screenshots before and the ingame graphics definitly look worse. The Aliasing is very visible, the car detail seems to be good, but not in the league of GT5. The Cockpit view and the graphics in the cockpit (also regarding to the lighting) is behind GT5 by a mile, imo. The game doesn't look great at all from the cockpit view. It may have more complex surroundings...but I don't know, something just looks off. GT5 in comparison still looks like a game of course, but everything is so realistic in comparison to Forza...Really, if you compare the bullshots the games seem to be close but if you see them running side by side especially in the cockpit view, GT5
looks a lot better. And that's only Prologue...Always-honest
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aliassing is in both. without the jaggies the games would look like the images above.
but they don't.
but they don't.
You know which game has the best windscreen effects? Need For Speed Shift.
In the cockpit view, you can actually see the insides of the car subtly reflecting off the windscreen. Actually gives you the sense you're looking through glass.
Where as GT5, slightly tints the windscreen... and Forza 3 doesn't seem to give a hoot!
In the cockpit view, you can actually see the insides of the car subtly reflecting off the windscreen. Actually gives you the sense you're looking through glass.
Where as GT5, slightly tints the windscreen... and Forza 3 doesn't seem to give a hoot!
Always-honest
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Thrakier said:
it's pretty visible in both. crawling seemlines.. yuck.
but sitting further alway helps....... can't stand to see those dancing fuckers in these realsitic looking games.. they seem more noticable the more realistic games get.
as for Forza3 vs GT5 (prologue)... some differences are there... but both are equally enjoyable (or equally boring).
TheHeretic
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Zaptruder said:
In Shift it makes visibility harder though, though the insane blurring effects don't help either. I actually prefer having no windscreen effects to Shifts.
Trunchisholm
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Zaptruder said:
That would be PGR3/4. Thank you.
Hanmik said:I just went to the danish gaming site Gamereactor.. they have a new comparison up and running.. so here we go.. its Forza2 vs. Forza 3.
I am really surprised by these comparisons. Is it possible Turn 10 just didn't out the same effort with certain cars or tracks? or is this just the LOD thing coming back in to play?
By the looks of things, the visuals remain relatively similar.
MrJollyLivesNextDoor
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mujun said:
i can understand how someone might think realistic = boring/sterile but judging from the way people have reacted to GT5/p screens over these years waiting for the game i think it's fair to say there is enough going on to get people salivating.
akachan ningen
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nib95 said:
If it's the player car, wouldn't it be the highest LOD model all the time? I thought only the other cars on the track changed LOD.
mujun said:
stylized? wtf are you on about? It's not like it's Auto Modelista here. Forza and GT both are aiming for the realistic style.
theignoramus
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MrJollyLivesNextDoor said:
I dont really care for sterility of Suzuka or Fuji Speedway, but anyone claiming that Prologue's London track is boring and sterile has utterly appalling taste.
eso76
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to be honest i think i see a few differences in the photomode pics and replay screen caps above, in regards to the model itself. For example, first thing i noticed is the air intake on the front bumper looks less smooth and rounded. Might be the picture's fault, though, and in any case the difference would be absolutely neglectable.
Also, i was playing gt5p in the morning and what's with everyone praising cockpits in comparison to fm 's ones ? both have good and bad ones, i was driving a C4 (i aways do) and the dashboards looked very low poly and rather ugly, in fact. Comparing the best in one game with the worst in the other can work for threads like this and people who will never own both games, but it doesn't mean much.
Also, it's definitely possible that there's a difference in cars and tracks in fm3. A lot of stuff returning from fm2 (incidentally, the only stuff we can compare directly) was just polished and re-used for fm3 (still, lighting an iq look much better) but people claiming fm3 looked like a generational leap over 2 were mostly talking about the very first trailer released at E3, which uses exactly the same assets you see ingame and is 100% faithful to ingame graphics
Also, i was playing gt5p in the morning and what's with everyone praising cockpits in comparison to fm 's ones ? both have good and bad ones, i was driving a C4 (i aways do) and the dashboards looked very low poly and rather ugly, in fact. Comparing the best in one game with the worst in the other can work for threads like this and people who will never own both games, but it doesn't mean much.
Also, it's definitely possible that there's a difference in cars and tracks in fm3. A lot of stuff returning from fm2 (incidentally, the only stuff we can compare directly) was just polished and re-used for fm3 (still, lighting an iq look much better) but people claiming fm3 looked like a generational leap over 2 were mostly talking about the very first trailer released at E3, which uses exactly the same assets you see ingame and is 100% faithful to ingame graphics
Thrakier said:
Sorry I forgot that I'm not allowed to have an opinion and your opinion is fact. You said it looks realistic, I personally think that in comparison to Forza it looks sterile. Like a PC sim or something. It might be something to do with the backgrounds or possibly the lighting, I don't know.
What I do know is, and this is my opinion remember, Forza looks nmore appealing to me despite the fact I can see that GT looks graphically superior by a fair margin.
I won't even bother clarifying myself to you Akachan, you've well and truly lived up to your name in this thread and shown yourself to be quite the console warrior in this thread if you ask me.
akachan ningen
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mujun said:
Yeah, I'm sure not having a reasonable answer has nothing to do with your refusal to reply.
Thetallywacker
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When game A does not look as good as game B. Talk about game C.
Got it.
Got it.
H_Prestige
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The car models in their actual state already look near perfect. All they need to do for the next gen GT is increase resolution and AA as much as possible. City tracks also look wonderful, but I suppose the more natural tracks need some work. But GT6 won't take nearly as long to make as GT5, whether it be on ps3 or ps4.
BenjaminBirdie
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nib95 said:
I am really surprised people aren't just playing FM3 and FM2 on their machines to see the clear visual differences completely absent in these screenshots.
eso76
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BenjaminBirdie said:
iq is a lot better, but mostly due to the fact they got rid of those extra bright reflections.
In motion the game looks a lot better than fm2, but to be honest i don't expect returning cars and tracks to have received a complete overhaul, that's why any direct comparison with fm2 won't show a huge difference, but those who have played the demo know better.
As for GT6 on ps4, well, assets are basically perfect as they are now, there's still room for improvements in shaders and textures dept, but i wouldn't know where to stuff one more polygon in most of those models.
I would guess all cars will have an interactive 'showroom mode' where you can open doors, hood and stuff. I can just see PD going there. I can just see them modeling engines, undercarriages etc.
I can also see them including a 'one car on track - raytraced mode' for you to unlock : P
Doc Evils said:
That's fucking awesome, I never thought they'd include that. So rarely seen on Enzo in-game models, i think that's a first. Does anyone know if any Forza 3 cars have that? Not trying to troll I just want to know. Will be picking up Forza 3 because I only own a 360.
EDIT: Is there any footage on the enzo in GT5?
Goldrusher
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Nope, but there's probably some PSP footage on YouTube though.
Other cars with "moving parts" have the correct animations too. The Mclaren SLR has a similar spoiler, the Veyron has one, which also functions as an airbrake (the wing switches to an almost vertical position and acts like the parachutes on dragsters).
Other cars with "moving parts" have the correct animations too. The Mclaren SLR has a similar spoiler, the Veyron has one, which also functions as an airbrake (the wing switches to an almost vertical position and acts like the parachutes on dragsters).
It's not an airbrake, but a spoiler for downforce. Comes up at ~120kph, goes back down at ~220kph.Doc Evils said: