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Media Create Sales: 12/01- 12/07
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DS didn't sell 100k more than PSP this week, it sold 133k more because of the DS Lite.test_account said:Isnt the DS Lite numbers included in those numbers since it says DS+ and not DSi? Or did they stop to track the DSL? I took them from the first post in this thread. I saw there was some DSL numbers some weeks ago atleast, but since it now says DS+ i assumed that this was a combination of the DSi and the DSL. But if it the DSL isnt included, then the DS is probably ahead of the PSP right now ye, that is true
The DS+ number is for both DSI and DSL, you just missed adding DSL to DSi this week.
The DS is now infront with 19k YTD wise vs the PSP.
I actually predict the DS will beat the PSP this week as well even though the PSP has Dissidia.
Dsi 173,700
Wii 91,600
PSP 71,500
PS3 33,700
DSL 31,100
X360 11,800
PS2 6,700
Seriously, check your eye sight.
I actually predict the DS will beat the PSP this week as well even though the PSP has Dissidia.
test_account said:Isnt the DS Lite numbers included in those numbers since it says DS+ and not DSi? Or did they stop to track the DSL? I took them from the first post in this thread. I saw there was some DSL numbers some weeks ago atleast, but since it now says DS+ i assumed that this was a combination of the DSi and the DSL. But if it the DSL isnt included, then the DS is probably ahead of the PSP right now ye, that is true
Dsi 173,700
Wii 91,600
PSP 71,500
PS3 33,700
DSL 31,100
X360 11,800
PS2 6,700
Seriously, check your eye sight.
test_account
XP-39C²
Parl said:
Ah ok, i didnt see that, sorry. Then the DS is ahead of the PSP when it comes to the YTD now yeFrillen said:
Are you angry because i didnt see it the first time?Frillen said:
Graphics Horse
Member
Frillen said:
Given that the OP lists DSi as 12,700, it's kind of confusing...
test_account said:It is not really by that much though, atleast in my opinion. And the PSP was almost written off quite a while ago, so for the PSP to sell about the same as the DS in one year is a good accomplishment i would say
Actually PSP is doing nearly the same numbers as it did the last 2 years, the real reason that it looked like a resurgence was DSs lackluster hardware sales this year until now (compared to the years before.)
test_account
XP-39C²
Ok, no problemFrillen said:Neh, sorry, just strange that you missed it twice
Ye, sometimes it seems that i miss some of the numbers for some reason. Like when i checked the latest NPD numbers, i had to go back and and double check because i didnt remember the DS, the PSP and the PS2 numbers, eventhough that i did read through the numbers the first time. I guess i didnt read them too carefully. I didnt try to ignore (or what i shall say) the DSL numbers when i mentioned the YTD earlier to make the PSP sales look better, since the numbers are posted and everyone can see them, and everyone can point out if i say something wrong (as i did)
When i wrote my earlier posts, then i didnt double check the numbers, that is probably why i missed it twice, i am sorry about that I will try to read the numbers atleast twice the next time before i add something up. I am Sorry about the missunderstanding and thanks for pointing it out!
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Graphics Horse said:
OP is last week's numbers. The new numbers come in a while before the thread is made because of how inconsistent the leaks are for the new numbers.
Graphics Horse
Member
Stumpokapow said:
I know that, but Chart Get has DSL as 12,100
OP has DSi as 12,700
test_account
XP-39C²
Do you mean compared to the same week as last year or the whole year around (YTD)? If it is about the YTD, then it seems that 2008 is the year that most PSP hardware were soldLaguna said:
I checked on garaph.info and i got this:http://garaph.info/linecompare.php?...s[5]=&date[5]=&sfd[5]=&std[5]=&gr[5]=&tra[5]=
2004 = 482,252 (launched in December)
2005 = 2,200,710
2006 = 1,849,173
2007 = 3,069,465
2008 = 3,138,530 (missing 4 weeks, so the number will be higher).
These numbers are based on Media Create. Here are the Famitsu numbers:
http://garaph.info/linecompare.php?...s[5]=&date[5]=&sfd[5]=&std[5]=&gr[5]=&tra[5]=
The 2008 numbers are relatively close to the 2007 numbers though, i agree, but i think that some people thought that the PSP would end its LTD at around 6-7 million, and going by this, then i think it is a good preformance by the PSP atleast
EDIT: I see that Spiegel already posted some graphs
Allan Holdsworth
Member
botticus said:
Where were the top 10 NPD for each platform posted?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
botticus said:
No.
Club Penguin = some shitty Disney web site, knockoff of Neopets, that became a game.
Penguin no Mondai = some anime that became a game.
Ok, I was a bit imprecise with my wording and basing little or large differences with DSs huge performance in Japan doesn´t help either. My point still stands.
The DS sold more than 6.000.000 more than PSP in 2006
The DS sold more than 4.000.000 more than PSP in 2007
The PSP sold this year 1.500.000 (4 weeks missing mind you) more than in 2006
The PSP sold this year ~500.000 (^^) more than last year.
While on the other hand the DS
sold 5.000.000 less this year than in 2006
and 4.000.000 less this year than last year.
I hope this clarifies my point and wording.
The DS sold more than 6.000.000 more than PSP in 2006
The DS sold more than 4.000.000 more than PSP in 2007
The PSP sold this year 1.500.000 (4 weeks missing mind you) more than in 2006
The PSP sold this year ~500.000 (^^) more than last year.
While on the other hand the DS
sold 5.000.000 less this year than in 2006
and 4.000.000 less this year than last year.
I hope this clarifies my point and wording.
DefectiveReject
Banned
Laguna said:Ok, I was a bit imprecise with my wording and basing little or large differences with DSs huge performance in Japan doesn´t help either. My point still stands.
The DS was selling more than 6.000.000 more than PSP in 2006
The DS was selling more than 4.000.000 more than PSP in 2007
The PSP sold this year 1.500.000 (4 weeks missing mind you) more than in 2006
The PSP sold this year ~500.000 (^^) more than last year.
While on the other hand the DS
sold 5.000.000 less this year than in 2006
and 4.000.000 less this year than last year.
I hope this clarifies my point and wording.
Maybe in Japan these holds some water. But in the US and Europe the DS is selling better than ever, so negates any PSP increases there or any DS decreases.
Also the PSP doesn't sell whatsoever in Europe or the US
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
rpmurphy said:
well they're ahead YTD and they're ahead this week, so... yep
Famitsu. PS2 Dragonball at #10.
http://www.famitsu.com/game/rank/sokuho/1220646_1796.html
http://www.famitsu.com/game/rank/sokuho/1220646_1796.html
Moor-Angol
Banned
December 2nd week 2008
DS -204,800
Wii - 91,600
PSP - 71,500
PS3 - 33,700
X360 - 11,800
PS2 - 6,700
December 2nd week 2007 (thanks to garaph.info)
DS - 222,132
Wii - 170,558
PSP - 184,610
PS3 - 63,720
X360 - 8,561
PS2 - 18,025
DS -204,800
Wii - 91,600
PSP - 71,500
PS3 - 33,700
X360 - 11,800
PS2 - 6,700
December 2nd week 2007 (thanks to garaph.info)
DS - 222,132
Wii - 170,558
PSP - 184,610
PS3 - 63,720
X360 - 8,561
PS2 - 18,025
norinrad21
Banned
bttb said:
AC will be on the charts for a very very long time to come. I love have MK has been dropping by in Japan, North America and Yurop just to say hello :lol
BishopLamont
Banned
Japan is DS land til DS2 comes out, crazy.
Pureauthor
Member
Handhelds 4eva
At least one 3rd party Wii game didn't bomb. I believe this first week for Taiko is higher than the 2 DS games.
Wii hardware rising, but not rising as much as last year.
PS3 hardware..well let me just say that if anyone says "PS3, holding steady" I'm going to lose it :lol
Wii hardware rising, but not rising as much as last year.
PS3 hardware..well let me just say that if anyone says "PS3, holding steady" I'm going to lose it :lol
Stormbringer
Member
From sinobi/Famitsu :
Taiko Wii : 114k
Penguin etc : 58k
TatsuCap : 26k
DK Jungle Beat Wii : 25k
http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/
Taiko Wii : 114k
Penguin etc : 58k
TatsuCap : 26k
DK Jungle Beat Wii : 25k
http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/
DefectiveReject
Banned
Stormbringer said:
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
jungle beat gcn did 50k week 1.
Cosmonaut X
Member
Stumpokapow said:
Hm. Im not quite sure how to judge DKJBWiis performance. I mean, 25k isnt too great but when its basically a re-release minus one of the originals main features (bongo peripheral and wacky controls) achieving half of the originals first week isnt too shabby.
test_account
XP-39C²
Ye, i see what you meanLaguna said:Ok, I was a bit imprecise with my wording and basing little or large differences with DSs huge performance in Japan doesn´t help either. My point still stands.
The DS sold more than 6.000.000 more than PSP in 2006
The DS sold more than 4.000.000 more than PSP in 2007
The PSP sold this year 1.500.000 (4 weeks missing mind you) more than in 2006
The PSP sold this year ~500.000 (^^) more than last year.
While on the other hand the DS
sold 5.000.000 less this year than in 2006
and 4.000.000 less this year than last year.
I hope this clarifies my point and wording.
I should have worded myself better earlier too, sorry. I didnt mean that the PSP sales only are good because that the PSP is almost selling as much as the DS. Even if the DS has sold twice as many units as the PSP this year, then i still think that the PSP preformance would have been good. I just ment that a system that someone had almost written off (like the PSP would slowly "die") maybe about 1-2 years ago, and then the PSP sells almost the same as the DS does in 2008, then i think that is a good preformance too The DS has sold over 23 million units though, so it might not be too suprsing that the DS hardware sales are lower in 2008 compared to in 2007, because so many already own a DS. But i still think it is a good preformance by the PSP to almost match the DS sales in 2008, since the PSP is almost matching the most popular system in Japan (although that so many people already own a DS, it would look better if the PSP sold almost as much as the DS did in i.e 2006 or 2007, but still
).Selling more than Wii (YTD) is more than enough to say that PSP hardware sales are very good this year in Japan. But the software situation doesn´t seem to profit that much from this. But this is also due to lacking offerings. I don´t know, Patapon 2 and Loco Roco 2 as the biggest holiday releases from the first party-side isn´t exactly what I would call effort. If you know that 3rd parties prefer other systems for obvious reasons you should atleast support your own system but it seems like they don´t care that much.
test_account
XP-39C²
With "profit", do you mean sales numbers or which games that are comming out for the PSP, as in if more games comming out for the PSP is a profit since then there are more to play on the PSP? If you mean sales, then i think it is hard to know for us exactly how good or how bad the hard the software situation is with the PSP, or if it has improved anything compared to the 2 last years. For example, if you look at the last week's Famitsu Top 30 list in this post:Laguna said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13958031&postcount=147
If you add up all the PSP numbers in the Top 30, then you will get 83.000 (i think i have calculated it right though, feel free to double check
). If you add LocoRoco 2 which is outside the Top 30, then you will get 88.100.If you look at the Dengeki total weekly numbers sales in this post:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13973502&postcount=224
Dengeki lists that PSP software sales for the same week as the Famitsu Top 30 that i mentioned over here are 182.969. That means that there is a difference 94.869 sales for the PSP that went "under the radar" for that week. I think that Famitsu and Dengeki are 2 different trackers though, but i would assume that the Famitsu and the Dengeki numbers in general are very different from eachother (i cant remember that i have really compared the Famitsu and the Dengeki numbers up to eachother before though, so i dont know, sorry :\).
Looking at the Famitsu Top 30 numbers, the PSP software sales doesnt seem to be very great, but looking at the Dengeki numbers, then it paints alittle different picture around the PSP sofware sales, atleast in my opinion.
Of course, this is just 1 week as an example, i didnt take the time to compare the other weeks, i just took the latest week as an example, so the situation might be alittle different if you compare all of the weeks. I just wanted to show that there is possible that some of the PSP software sales goes "under the radar", and that it might be a possibility that the PSP software sales are alittle better than we might think
I wish that we had some Dengeki total week numbers from the previous years as well (i dont think we have it atleast). Then it might have been easier to see if the PSP software situation has improved or not improved
Ye, i agree, it doesnt seem that Sony are making too much 1st party games for the PSP. Patapon 2 and Loco Roco 2 seems to be the 2 biggest Sony titles this holiday season indeed. I have seen someone calling Loco Roco 2, Loco Roco 1.1, so it doesnt seem that Sony put too much much into Loco Roco too, i agree. I dont know much about Patapon 2 though. I wonder if Sony will release more 1st party titles on the PSP in 2009 compared to what they have done this year and in the previous years. I dont think we will see many 1st party PSP games though :\
Captain Smoker
Member
Famitsu
Captain Smoker
Member
Right.schuelma said:
Famitsu numbers should be published tomorrow.