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[JoshuaJSlone]

I would have to agree. You would be stupid to release a big name game in the same week as Dragon Quest in Japan. The only game that would sell just as well if it came out in the same day would be Final Fantasy, but that will never happen.

This isn't the late 90s anymore. The total lifetime sales of the original SKUs (no Ultimate Hits, no International Zodiac Job System) for Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy XII are slightly below what Dragon Quest IX did in its first 2 days.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

They announced that they are possible, which I think is something rather different from actually saying that they will happen.

Watch out. Last time I said that I was tackled by some Nintendo fanboys saying "Nuh uh! DSi-only titles are already in the works!"

So I raise you a "Nuh uh!"

 

[Dash Kappei]

The most-enhanced DSi mode for a DS game, that I can think of, I believe is the new Korg-DS coming out, where the changes are rather drastic in DSi mode (ie really gimped in DS mode)... but that's obviously not even in the same category as a DSi only game.

 

[donny2112]

"Nuh uh! DSi-only titles are already in the works!"

There already are DSi-only games. It's called DSiware. If you're talking about cartridges, there are already DSi-enhanced games being made for cartridges. It doesn't make sense to make DSi-only retail games, yet, because most of the market is still the DSLite. Anyone who doubts they'll eventually come, though, I would say is just sticking their head in the sand.

 

[zero_suit]

New DSLite and DSi colors don't seem to really make big splashes by themselves anymore.

Black Wii should be huge, though.

Why would they when the DS has sold ~5 million more units than the PS2?

 

[charlequin]

Anyone who doubts they'll eventually come, though, I would say is just sticking their head in the sand.

I think to make a statement like that one has to have much more faith in their knowledge of the specifics of Nintendo's future plans than I would. The fact that Nintendo haven't announced any such games yet certainly seems to indicate it's not a priority. If the DSi winds up filling the role of Nintendo's #1 handheld platform for another 2-3 years it'd be pretty unlikely that such exclusive retail titles wouldn't show up, yes, but if we get a "new" Nintendo handheld in 2010 (or even maybe 2011) the pressing need for such things may not be strong enough to "make it happen" before the end of the DS' reign.

 

[cvxfreak]

Why would they when the DS has sold ~5 million more units than the PS2?

Probably for the same reason DQIX was able to lift sales despite DS sales being ~5 million more units than the PS2.

Come to think of it, even back in the days of the first DS, new colors didn't do all that much by themselves. They had to launch aside a new big game, but then we couldn't tell if the game or color did more to lift sales. The DS Lite would have sold out back in 2006 and 2007 even if they hadn't introduced new colors. The PSP is a pretty different story.

 

[Psychotext]

Or it means that in the lead up to a massive major release, no other notable titles want to be in the way?

Also good. :lol

 

[donny2112]

Famitsu June 29-July 5

01./01. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 153,194 / 507,021 (-57%)
02./00. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva (SEGA) - 101,486 / NEW
03./00. [PSP] Boku no Natsuyasumi 4 (My Summer Vacation 4): Youth Detective Group in Seto - Me and the Secret Map (SCEI) - 56,858 / NEW
04./02. [NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Friend Collection) (Nintendo) - 50,944 / 221,434 (-27%)
05./07. [NDS] Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days (Square Enix) - 14,168 / 476,621 (-37%)
06./10. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 G (BEST) (Capcom) - 12,393 / 806,858 (+1%)
07./04. [PSP] Ken to Mahou to Gakuen Mono. 2 (Sword & Magic & School 2) (Acquire) - 12,239 / 57,521 (-73%)
08./03. [PS3] Atelier Rorona: Alchemist of Arland (Gust) - 11,195 / 58,651 (-76%)
09./11. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 10,612 / 3,443,747 (-3%)
10./12. [NDS] Sloane and MacHale's Mysterious Story (Level 5) - 9,877 / 149,419 (-3%)

11./18. [NDS] Pokemon Platinum (Nintendo/Pokemon Co.) - 6,937 / 2,434,562 (+12%)
12./05. [PS3] BlazBlue (Arc System Works) - 6,900 / 42,422 (-81%)
13./22. [NDS] Infinite Space (SEGA) - 6,458 / 54,855 (+19%)
14./09. [PSP] Valhalla Knights 2: Battle Stance (Marvelous) - 6,238 / 19,826 (-54%)
15./28. [NDS] Rhythm Tengoku Gold (Nintendo) - 5,193 / 1,753,933 (+17%)
16./14. [NDS] Gyakuten Kenji (Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth) (Capcom) - 5,167 / 272,847 (-26%)
17./29. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 4,909 / 2,275,659 (+19%)
18./17. [NDS] Akira Tago's Mind Exercises (Atama no Taisou) Vol. 1: Puzzle Solving Journey Around the World (Level 5) - 4,857 / 22,004 (-28%)
19./26. [NDS] Mario & Luigi RPG 3!!! (Nintendo) - 4,464 / 652,308 (-3%)
20./24. [NDS] Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky (Nintendo/Pokemon Co.) - 4,409 / 361,680 (-17%)
21./00. [WII] EA Sports Grand Slam Tennis (Electronic Arts Victor) - 4,281 / NEW
22./25. [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) - 4,277 / 5,026,037 (-9%)
23./08. [PS3] Agarest Senki Zero (Compile Heart) - 4,212 / 18,528 (-71%)
24./00. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii (Namco Bandai Games) - 4,142 / 581,728
25./30. [NDS] Kirby Super Star Ultra Deluxe (Nintendo) - 3,664 / 1,120,107 (-10%)
26./06. [360] BlazBlue (Arc System Works) - 3,643 / 26,484 (-84%)
27./00. [NDS] Pokemon Diamond/Pearl (Nintendo/Pokemon Co.) - 3,528 / 5,681,486
28./00. [PSP] Evangelion: Jo (Prologue) (Namco Bandai Games) - 3,485 / 40,697
29./00. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) - 3,433 / 3,460,752
30./00. [NDS] Momotarou Dentetsu 20th Anniversary (Hudson) - 3,255 / 290,166

*. [360] Bioshock (BEST) (Spike) - 1,200 / NEW
*. [NDS] Minna no Oekaki Yasan (Everyone's Drawing Shop) (Taito) - 750 / NEW


Bar Chart June 29-July 5 (thanks to JoshuaJSlone/garaph.info)

Note: Image may be delayed from the time of this post, but will automatically show once the data is ready.


Recent Famitsu Top 30s

June 1-7, 2009
June 8-14, 2009
June 15-21, 2009
June 22-28, 2009

 

[flipping_heck]

edit: nvm

 

[shykyoichi]

/!\ Rant post ahead /!\
Konami is fucking stupid./!\ Rant ended /!\

Look at what they did to Suikoden.

 

[bttb]

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[onken]

What's FS/TF?

 

[slaughterking]

First Shipment/Total Forecast

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[u_neek]

When I was in Japan a couple of weeks ago, MH3 was really being hyped in stores. Almost as much as DQIX. I'm sure it'll do really good!

 

[Cosmonaut X]

When I was in Japan a couple of weeks ago, MH3 was really being hyped in stores. Almost as much as DQIX. I'm sure it'll do really good!

Dunno. I do feel that Famitsu are lowballing the potential sales of the title, but after the weak year the Wii has had so far I'd probably be reluctant to wave huge figures around too...

 

[botticus]

That seems like a really high upper bound for PS3 Vesperia.

 

[vicissitudes]

That seems like a really high upper bound for PS3 Vesperia.

Yeah I'd be pretty surprised if ToV sold more on the PS3 than on the 360, after seeing how the PS3 port of Trusty Bell floundered.

 

[Moor-Angol]

Enterbrain raised their estimates for MH3, now it's over a million...

 

[Meier]

Any estimates so far on 2nd week sales for DQ9?

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Any estimates so far on 2nd week sales for DQ9?

Not a modern estimate, but this made me curious what DQ VII and VIII did the few weeks after their first

DQVII: 1.86M 1.07M 329K 155K 84K
DQVIII: 2.24M 560K 200K 117K 118K

I knew VII ended up with the higher total, but I didn't realize it only took until the second week to pass up what VIII sold in the same amount of time.

 

[doicare]

Random predictions:

dragon quest 9 week 2: 750,000
wii sports resort week 4: 70,000
Pro Yakyuu Spirits 6 (ps3): 85,000

 

[Nibelung Valesti]

Famitsu July Estimates: First Shipment/Total Forecast

[NDS] Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver (Pokemon) FS 1.59M-2.21M / TF 3.40M-4.80M (Pokemon DP: FW 1.586M / LTD 5.686M)
[WII] Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) FS 800K-1.00M / TF 800K-1.20M (MH2: FW 368K / LTD 571K)
[PSP] Tales of VS. (Bandai Namco Games) FS 180K-220K / TF 180K-260K (TotW RM2: FW 210K / LTD 317K)
[NDS] SaGa 2: Hihou Densetsu - Goddess of Destiny (Square Enix) FS 170K-250K / TF 260K-360K (Romancing SaGa PS2: FW 221K / LTD 455K)
[PS3] Tales of Vesperia (Bandai Namco Games) FS 130K-190K / TF 230K-330K (ToV 360: FW 101K / LTD 195K)
[PS2] SD Gundam G Generation Wars (Bandai Namco Games) FS 130K-180K / TF 130K-180K (GG Spirits: FW 231K / LTD 372K)
[NDS] Blood of Bahamut (Square Enix) FS 110K-160K / TF 130K-180K
[PS3] Kidou Senshi Gundam Senki Record U.C. 0081 (Bandai Namco Games) FS 90K-120K / TF 120K-180K (GM2: FW 162K / LTD 316K)
[NDS] Tingle's Love Balloon Trip (Nintendo) FS 80K-120K / TF 140K-180K (Rosy Rupeeland: FW 46K / LTD 235K)
[NDS] Super Robot Gakuen (Bandai Namco Games) FS 80K-110K / TF 80K-110K (SRT OG Saga: FW 90K / LTD 121K)

http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1247827322/156

There's no way Blood of Bahamut will sell that much...

 

[jj984jj]

Yeah I'd be pretty surprised if ToV sold more on the PS3 than on the 360, after seeing how the PS3 port of Trusty Bell floundered.

I think it's a bit high too but it's a Tales of game, it should definitely do better than Trusty Bell PS3.

There's no way Blood of Bahamut will sell that much...

That much? And then people wonder why S-E places "Final Fantasy" in every title they possibly can...

 

[donny2112]

Random predictions:

dragon quest 9 week 2: 750,000
wii sports resort week 4: 70,000

I thought you weren't going to predict for Wii Sports Resort after week 3. Anyways, that would be an absolutely astounding second week for DQIX. I think it's possible that Wii Sports Resort will hold stronger around 90K, but I can't say that 70K would be a bad prediction, either.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

I think it's a bit high too but it's a Tales of game, it should definitely do better than Trusty Bell PS3.

That must be a given really, although its debatable that Famitsu expects Tales of Vesperia PS3 to do better than Tales of Vesperia 360 when Untrusty Bell PS3 did worse than Untrusty Bell 360 (I think that's what vicissitudes means).
What seems way too far fetched to me is their upper range for total forecast, which would be the best post-ps2 for the franchise, with way too good legs to boot.

That much? And then people wonder why S-E places "Final Fantasy" in every title they possibly can...

Honestly, its taken quite a good while to get dated, its premise doesn't seem really appealing to a mass market and its being thrown on a really busy week. Let's see if it doesn't turn out like Sigma Harmonics.

By the way, SD Gundam and SRT lack of legs is way too funny to skip commenting about it.

 

[idlewild_]

While it is doubtful that ToV PS3 will outdo the X360 version, it will most likely have a better % of the 360's sales than Trusty Bell PS3 did to the X360 version (imho). It was well known that Trusty Bell wasn't a very good game, whereas ToV was/is great.

 

[doicare]

I thought you weren't going to predict for Wii Sports Resort after week 3. Anyways, that would be an absolutely astounding second week for DQIX. I think it's possible that Wii Sports Resort will hold stronger around 90K, but I can't say that 70K would be a bad prediction, either.

Well it is a whole 7 days worth of sales compared to just 2 days of sales from last week for dragon quest 9, as for wii sports resort i said that this week would be my last weekly prediction for the game, lets see if i can maintain my 100% record with the game...

 

[future_pinoy]

Originally Posted by doicare:
Random predictions:

dragon quest 9 week 2: 750,000
wii sports resort week 4: 70,000

I thought you weren't going to predict for Wii Sports Resort after week 3. Anyways, that would be an absolutely astounding second week for DQIX. I think it's possible that Wii Sports Resort will hold stronger around 90K, but I can't say that 70K would be a bad prediction, either.

doicare prediction is pretty close if there is some truth these figures from this site.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm

M U L T I

- Here are the preliminary software sales in Japan for the week of July 13 - 19, Dragon Quest IX sold over 720,000 units in the second week, with accumlative sales reaching 3 millions unit:

1. Dragon Quest IX (NDS, Square Enix) - 728,000
2. Wii Sports Resort (Wii, Nintendo) - 80,000
3. Pro Yakyuu Spirits 6 (PS3, Konami) - 75,000
4. Tomodatchi Collection (NDS, Nintendo) - 54,000
5. Pro Yakyuu Spirits 6 (PS2, Konami) - 49,000
6. Ys I& II Chronicles (PSP, Nihon Falcom) - 15,000
7. Boku no Natsuyasumi 4 [My Summer 4] (PSP, Sony) - 14,000
8. Hatsune Miku: Project Diva (PSP, Sega) - 12,000
9. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G [PSP The Best] (PSP, Capcom) - 11,000
10. Wii Fit (Wii, Nintendo) - 9,00

 

[Rpgmonkey]

Famitsu July Estimates: First Shipment/Total Forecast

[NDS] Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver (Pokemon) FS 1.59M-2.21M / TF 3.40M-4.80M (Pokemon DP: FW 1.586M / LTD 5.686M)
[WII] Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) FS 800K-1.00M / TF 800K-1.20M (MH2: FW 368K / LTD 571K)
[PSP] Tales of VS. (Bandai Namco Games) FS 180K-220K / TF 180K-260K (TotW RM2: FW 210K / LTD 317K)
[NDS] SaGa 2: Hihou Densetsu - Goddess of Destiny (Square Enix) FS 170K-250K / TF 260K-360K (Romancing SaGa PS2: FW 221K / LTD 455K)
[PS3] Tales of Vesperia (Bandai Namco Games) FS 130K-190K / TF 230K-330K (ToV 360: FW 101K / LTD 195K)
[PS2] SD Gundam G Generation Wars (Bandai Namco Games) FS 130K-180K / TF 130K-180K (GG Spirits: FW 231K / LTD 372K)
[NDS] Blood of Bahamut (Square Enix) FS 110K-160K / TF 130K-180K
[PS3] Kidou Senshi Gundam Senki Record U.C. 0081 (Bandai Namco Games) FS 90K-120K / TF 120K-180K (GM2: FW 162K / LTD 316K)
[NDS] Tingle's Love Balloon Trip (Nintendo) FS 80K-120K / TF 140K-180K (Rosy Rupeeland: FW 46K / LTD 235K)
[NDS] Super Robot Gakuen (Bandai Namco Games) FS 80K-110K / TF 80K-110K (SRT OG Saga: FW 90K / LTD 121K)

http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1247827322/156

They expect VS to do worse than Vesperia?

Surprising looking at how popular Tales spinoffs are on the PSP.

 

[Chris1964]

doicare prediction is pretty close if there is some truth these figures from this site.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm

M U L T I

- Here are the preliminary software sales in Japan for the week of July 13 - 19, Dragon Quest IX sold over 720,000 units in the second week, with accumlative sales reaching 3 millions unit:

1. Dragon Quest IX (NDS, Square Enix) - 728,000
2. Wii Sports Resort (Wii, Nintendo) - 80,000
3. Pro Yakyuu Spirits 6 (PS3, Konami) - 75,000
4. Tomodatchi Collection (NDS, Nintendo) - 54,000
5. Pro Yakyuu Spirits 6 (PS2, Konami) - 49,000
6. Ys I& II Chronicles (PSP, Nihon Falcom) - 15,000
7. Boku no Natsuyasumi 4 [My Summer 4] (PSP, Sony) - 14,000
8. Hatsune Miku: Project Diva (PSP, Sega) - 12,000
9. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G [PSP The Best] (PSP, Capcom) - 11,000
10. Wii Fit (Wii, Nintendo) - 9,00

These numbers come from vgchhhhhhartz. It's not the first time magic box quotes numbers from that banned site as real.

 

[shykyoichi]

These numbers come from vgchhhhhhartz. It's not the first time magic box quotes numbers from that banned site as real.

And we know where they get their numbers.

 

[Vilix]

I've had this thought that the depression doesn't necessarily remove people's demand for videogames, but makes them less inclined to act on their demand, particularly outside the major holidays. If the amount of people who want to buy videogames is more or less as large as usual, it's possible that they'll simply wait until Christmas to buy them. In that case, the holiday season won't be as affected (in a negative sense) by the depression.

The depression????? What depression are you talking about?

 

[dolemite]

These numbers come from vgchhhhhhartz. It's not the first time magic box quotes numbers from that banned site as real.

What's worse is that these are preliminary chartzz numbers. The ban should be twice as long for this offense.

 

[dabra]

sinobi

DQ IX 602k

DSi 105k
DSL 12k

 

[schuelma]

Pretty decent hardware hold for DS.

 

[future_pinoy]

sinobi

DQ IX 602k

DSi 105k
DSL 12k

very impressive

 

[manueldelalas]

Wow at the DS sales, I thought it was going to have a much bigger drop.

 

[Dra-Q]

sinobi

DQ IX 602k

DSi 105k
DSL 12k

Wow, very good numbers for the 2nd week. DQIX for the DS was the right choice by Wada.

 

[dabra]

Famitsu


DSi　105,000
PSP　25,000
Wii　19,000
DSL　12,000
PS3　8,300
PS2　5,000
360　2,700


1.NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Hoshizora no Mamoribito (Square Enix)　603,000 / 2,946,000
2.[PS3] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 6 (Konami)　73,000
3.[WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) 　68,000 / 668,000
4.[NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo) 　60,000 / 334,000
5.[PS2] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 6 (Konami)　50,000　
6.[PSP] Ys I & II Chronicles (Nihon Falcom)　20,000
7.[PSP] Boku no Natsuyasumi 4: Seitouchi Shounen Tanteidan, Boku to Himitsu no Chizu (SCE)　13,000 / 92,000
8.[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G, PSP the Best (Capcom) 　11,000 / 831,000
9.[PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva (Sega)　11,000 / 128,000
10.[WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) 　8,100 / 3,462,000

 

[Chris1964]

Big second week for Dragon Quest IX was expected but DS hardware is impressive

 

[Busaiku]

4.[NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo) 　60,000 / 334,000

Another increase from last week.
Needless to say, it's doing very well.

 

[schuelma]

I know Dragon Quest and the DS are doing well, obviously, but everything else is really in the shitter.

 

[Spiegel]

Nice weekend sales for Ys. It doubled its first day.

I know Dragon Quest and the DS are doing well, obviously, but everything else is really in the shitter.

Monster Hunter bundles will save Wii and PSP.

People are holding back now to buy the cheaper psp 3000 bundle with MHP2g next week and the MH3 bundle the week after next.

Spoiler

Maybe

 

[starship]

Iirc, Square Enix only shipped 3m copies of DQ IX as of last week, so does this mean sell-through of the game was more than 95% by the end of last week?

 

[AniHawk]

doicare pretty much nailed wii sports resort's numbers

 

[schuelma]

Monster Hunter bundles will save Wii and PSP.

People are holding back now to buy the cheaper psp 3000 bundle with MHP2g next week and the MH3 bundle the week after next.

Spoiler

Maybe

We'll see. Probably more likely for Wii with the new color and all.

 

[Chris1964]

The release of the black Wii next Saturday is definetely affecting Wii sales. Next week it will be even lower. But yes, everything is down. For me the negative surprise is PS3. Although Pro Yakyuu Spirits 6 was released and did really well PS3 slipped again below 9000.

 

[Spiegel]

We'll see. Probably more likely for Wii with the new color and all.

Yeah, the psp part was a joke. Nobody should expect that bundle to do too much for the handheld.

 

[manueldelalas]

PS3　 8,300 / 3,241,765
Wii Fit 8,100 / 3,462,000

PS3 gaining momentum...