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[ArtHands]

There are several reports that the new stocks for red and blue vita has arrived in japan, including on amazon

 

[Thorgal]

There are several reports that the new stocks for red and blue vita has arrived in japan, including on amazon

Wondering whether this will bring vita back up or at least stable .

 

[hiska-kun]

There are several reports that the new stocks for red and blue vita has arrived in japan, including on amazon

That's true.
Yesterday, Today.

But still no stock for the white Vita, though.

 

[ArtHands]

Wondering whether this will bring vita back up or at least stable .

The restock, budget re-release of several older titles, and golden week should give it a decent bump for the next few weeks...and then a free fall after golden week

especially if a new DQM title got announced for the 3DS.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

The restock, budget re-release of several older titles, and golden week should give it a decent bump for the next few weeks...and then a free fall after golden week

especially if a new DQM title got announced for the 3DS.

He is talking about this: https://twitter.com/trademark_bot/statuses/325307814673268736

Square Enix filled a new trademark, and it might be related to DQM2.

I don't see how that would impact Vita sales, something like Persona or Yakuza maybe, but not Dragon Quest.

 

[Oemenia]

Whats the thought on the PSVita HW sales, is 15k on a slow week what can expect from now?

 

[Hero of Legend]

He is talking about this: https://twitter.com/trademark_bot/statuses/325307814673268736

Square Enix filled a new trademark, and it might be related to DQM2.

I don't see how that would impact Vita sales, something like Persona or Yakuza maybe, but not Dragon Quest.

What does the trademark say?

 

[zroid]

Whats the thought on the PSVita HW sales, is 15k on a slow week what can expect from now?

Supposedly there may have been supply issues recently, so we'll have to see what happens next week.

 

[Oemenia]

Supposedly there may have been supply issues recently, so we'll have to see what happens next week.

Yeah that was the case last week too but are there any big releases coming out soon?

 

[zroid]

Yeah that was the case last week too but are there any big releases coming out soon?

No big releases that I know of coming soon, but next week will have a lot of niche titles and a ton of budget reprints. The reprints may have some effect on sales... hard to say. (edit: my bad, the sales of these will be reported two weeks from now)

Either way the 3DS will definitely be in the spotlight over Vita in the next few weeks, seeing as one of its tentpole releases of 2013 just came out.

 

[Chris1964]

Handheld software sales

GBA {2001.03.21}

2001 CY {2001.01.01 - 2001.12.30} [GBA] Software Sales - 7.109.800 / 7.109.800
2002 CY {2001.12.31 - 2002.12.29} [GBA] Software Sales - 12.260.100 / 19.369.900
2003 CY {2002.12.30 - 2003.12.28} [GBA] Software Sales - 13.267.300 / 32.637.200
2004 CY {2003.12.29 - 2004.12.26} [GBA] Software Sales - 17.099.300 / 49.736.500
2005 CY {2004.12.27 - 2005.12.25} [GBA] Software Sales - 6.976.318 / 56.712.800
2006 CY {2005.12.26 - 2006.12.31} [GBA] Software Sales - 3.071.700 / 59.784.500
2007 CY {2007.01.01 - 2007.12.30} [GBA] Software Sales - 433.600 / 60.218.100

PSP {2004.12.12}

2004 CY {2003.12.29 - 2004.12.26} [PSP] Software Sales - 550.665 / 550.665
2005 CY {2004.12.27 - 2005.12.25} [PSP] Software Sales - 4.179.374 / 4.730.039
2006 CY {2005.12.26 - 2006.12.31} [PSP] Software Sales - 6.659.000 / 11.389.000
2007 CY {2007.01.01 - 2007.12.30} [PSP] Software Sales - 6.750.169 / 18.139.200
2008 CY {2007.12.31 - 2008.12.28} [PSP] Software Sales - 9.745.758 / 27.885.000
2009 CY {2008.12.29 - 2009.12.27} [PSP] Software Sales - 9.850.000 / 37.735.000
2010 CY {2009.12.28 - 2010.12.26} [PSP] Software Sales - 16.255.643 / 53.990.600
2011 CY {2010.12.27 - 2011.12.25} [PSP] Software Sales - 13.975.141 / 67.965.700
2012 CY {2011.12.26 - 2012.12.30} [PSP] Software Sales - 7.701.189 / 75.666.900

NDS {2004.12.02}

2004 CY {2003.12.29 - 2004.12.26} [NDS] Software Sales - 1.211.374 / 1.211.374
2005 CY {2004.12.27 - 2005.12.25} [NDS] Software Sales - 11.753.491 / 12.964.865
2006 CY {2005.12.26 - 2006.12.31} [NDS] Software Sales - 38.817.800 / 51.782.700
2007 CY {2007.01.01 - 2007.12.30} [NDS] Software Sales - 39.130.595 / 90.913.300
2008 CY {2007.12.31 - 2008.12.28} [NDS] Software Sales - 28.260.498 / 119.173.800
2009 CY {2008.12.29 - 2009.12.27} [NDS] Software Sales - 28.020.000 / 147.193.800
2010 CY {2009.12.28 - 2010.12.26} [NDS] Software Sales - 22.331.653 / 169.525.500
2011 CY {2010.12.27 - 2011.12.25} [NDS] Software Sales - 7.376.870 / 176.902.400
2012 CY {2011.12.26 - 2012.12.30} [NDS] Software Sales - 4.901.365 / 181.803.800

3DS {2011.02.26}

2011 CY {2010.12.27 - 2011.12.25} [3DS] Software Sales - 7.104.325 / 7.104.325
2012 CY {2011.12.26 - 2012.12.30} [3DS] Software Sales - 17.521.578 / 24.625.903

 

[ohlawd]

Holy shit. Look at dem DS SW sales.

 

[zroid]

2012 CY {2011.12.26 - 2012.12.30} [NDS] Software Sales - 4.901.365 / 181.803.800

Pokemon lol

 

[Chris1964]

Forgot these

GMB {1989.04.21}

2000 CY {1999.12.27 - 2000.12.31} [GMB] Software Sales - 12.077.500
2001 CY {2001.01.01 - 2001.12.30} [GMB] Software Sales - 7.183.300
2002 CY {2001.12.31 - 2002.12.29} [GMB] Software Sales - 1.037.400
2003 CY {2002.12.30 - 2003.12.28} [GMB] Software Sales - 73.700

NGP {1998.10.28}

1999 H1-FY {1999.03.29 - 1999.09.26} [NGP] Software Sales {1998.10.28} - 140.907
1999 H2-FY {1999.09.27 - 2000.03.26} [NGP] Software Sales {1998.10.28} - 250.446
2000 H1-FY {2000.03.27 - 2000.09.24} [NGP] Software Sales {1998.10.28} - 89.170
2000 H2-FY {2000.09.25 - 2001.04.01} [NGP] Software Sales {1998.10.28} - 47.442
2001 H1-FY {2001.04.02 - 2001.09.30} [NGP] Software Sales {1998.10.28} - 23.016
2001 H2-FY {2001.10.01 - 2002.03.31} [NGP] Software Sales {1998.10.28} - 663


WSN {1999.03.04}

1999 H1-FY {1999.03.29 - 1999.09.26} [WSN] Software Sales - 847.571
1999 H2-FY {1999.09.27 - 2000.03.26} [WSN] Software Sales - 602.809
2000 H1-FY {2000.03.27 - 2000.09.24} [WSN] Software Sales - 515.365
2000 H2-FY {2000.09.25 - 2001.04.01} [WSN] Software Sales - 788.915
2001 H1-FY {2001.04.02 - 2001.09.30} [WSN] Software Sales - 484.461
2001 H2-FY {2001.10.01 - 2002.03.31} [WSN] Software Sales - 387.472
2002 H1-FY {2002.04.01 - 2002.09.29} [WSN] Software Sales - 279.297


PSV {2011.12.17}

2011 CY {2010.12.27 - 2011.12.25} [PSV] Software Sales - 396.414 / 396.414
2012 CY {2011.12.26 - 2012.12.30} [PSV] Software Sales - 1.953.478 / 2.349.892

 

[Man God]

I really don't think a bunch of "greatest hits" release for the Vita is going to do anything especially considering those games mainly aren't great or hits.

 

[Sandfox]

I'm surprised that the Wonderswan had more than 2x the SW sales of the Vita in its first six months than the Vita had in its first year.

 

[Jamix012]

So 2012 for the 3DS had the most software sales out of any non-DS handheld ever? That's pretty amazing frankly.

I'm surprised that the Wonderswan had more than 2x the SW sales of the Vita in its first six months than the Vita had in its first year.

Well Vita's first year was what... 2 weeks?

 

[cw_sasuke]

I'm surprised that the Wonderswan had more than 2x the SW sales of the Vita in its first six months than the Vita had in its first year.

They had Square support right ?

 

[Nirolak]

Well, it's clear that Sony is trying to replicate the MH craziness on its platform, by pushing third party software that might resemble Capcom game. Problem is, the userbase didn't show really a huge interest in those games. SS might not even reach 200k units, and it was heavily, heavily promoted.

While there was the double pack and digital sales, I feel your point still holds if we switch to 300K.

In my mind the biggest problem Sony has right now in terms of keeping the Vita a living platform is getting a Fall line-up. Unless I'm forgetting something, so far the only "big" (in Vita terms) releases coming up are Toukidan in June and God Eater 2 near the end of Summer.

They need something to follow that up with to inspire confidence that the platform will keep getting at least somewhat notable titles.

 

[Man God]

Pokemon lol

2000 CY {1999.12.27 - 2000.12.31} [GMB] Software Sales - 12.077.500

Pokémon lol.

 

[Gianni Merryman]

I really don't think a bunch of "greatest hits" release for the Vita is going to do anything especially considering those games mainly aren't great or hits.

To be fair those games were released way before the price cut, so now that Vita's userbase has grown bigger those games may have sold better.

On the other hand I don't know whether those budget reprints will be enough to boost hardware sales dramatically.

 

[Jamix012]

I know this prediction is a way off but I predict Vita will sell less software in 2014 than the Wonderswan did in 1999.

 

[Man God]

To be fair those games were released way before the price cut, so now that Vita's userbase has grown bigger those games may have sold better.

On the other hand I don't know whether those budget reprints will be enough to boost hardware sales dramatically.

No one has talked about it in awhile but last I remember the used market for Vita games isn't exactly lacking in stock.

 

[michaelius]

I know this prediction is a way off but I predict Vita will sell less software in 2014 than the Wonderswan did in 1999.

Laguna is back ?

 

[Jamix012]

Laguna is back ?

It's just a prediction... The vita isn't exactly setting the world on fire and it would have to sell 1.45 million software to match the Wonderswan in 1999. Considering it only sold 1.9 million units in 2012 I don't think it's impossible to drop to such a number given that it probably won't have many high profile releases in 2014. Maybe if FFX is 2014 then it'll manage.

 

[Gianni Merryman]

No one has talked about it in awhile but last I remember the used market for Vita games isn't exactly lacking in stock.

Good point, indeed I didn't take used games market into account.

 

[Nirolak]

I know this prediction is a way off but I predict Vita will sell less software in 2014 than the Wonderswan did in 1999.

Without being effectively discontinued that would be pretty hard to manage.

Not that being effectively discontinued is off the table however.

 

[Man God]

Less than a million next year? I sort of doubt it. By then the Sony faithful otaku publishers will have moved on from the PSP fully and it'll start getting those types of games most likely. Hell it already has started getting those games.

 

[Jamix012]

Without being effectively discontinued that would be pretty hard to manage.

Not that being effectively discontinued if off the table however.

You don't think that if 2014 has few high profile releases the Vita couldn't drop 450,000 units of software from 2012 even without being discontinued? I feel the 3DS will have huge momentum going into 2014 that could effectively curb-stomp the Vita's software sales even further.
Not to mention the Wii U will probably be selling at least marginally better and the PS4 will be out. If there aren't many high profile releases I could see it happening.

Less than a million next year? I sort of doubt it. By then the Sony faithful otaku publishers will have moved on from the PSP fully and it'll start getting those types of games most likely. Hell it already has started getting those games.

1999 H1-FY {1999.03.29 - 1999.09.26} [WSN] Software Sales - 847.571
1999 H2-FY {1999.09.27 - 2000.03.26} [WSN] Software Sales - 602.809

1999 total: 1,450,380 (unless I'm just reading this wrong)

I also feel a good chunk of those Otaku games will make the jump to the 3DS as some already have.

 

[Sandfox]

Less than a million next year? I sort of doubt it. By then the Sony faithful otaku publishers will have moved on from the PSP fully and it'll start getting those types of games most likely. Hell it already has started getting those games.

He's predicting less than 1.4. Its possible depending on what series come to the Vita and how many games it gets but its not likely.

 

[Nirolak]

You don't think that if 2014 has few high profile releases the Vita couldn't drop 450,000 units of software from 2012 even without being discontinued? I feel the 3DS will have huge momentum going into 2014 that could effectively curb-stomp the Vita's software sales even further.
Not to mention the Wii U will probably be selling at least marginally better and the PS4 will be out. If there aren't many high profile releases I could see it happening.

If a platform has almost no high profile releases, my personal opinion is that it has been effectively discontinued.

For example, the Xbox 360 is on sale in Japan, but it has not been a viable or seriously supported product for years.

 

[Man God]

Two halves! I see. I think I still stand by it.

 

[zroid]

edit: woops, thought you were talking about 2013

 

[Chris1964]

You don't think that if 2014 has few high profile releases the Vita couldn't drop 450,000 units of software from 2012 even without being discontinued?

Vita software for 2013 will be somewhere between 2-3 million. Maybe 3+ if something "big" releases.

 

[Bruno MB]

2000 CY {1999.12.27 - 2000.12.31} [GMB] Software Sales - 12.077.500

Pokémon lol.

And Yu-Gi-Oh!

[NGB] Pokémon Gold / Silver (Nintendo) {1999.11.21} - 2.383.096 / 6.011.723
[NGB] Pokémon Crystal (Nintendo) {2000.12.14} - 1.065.804 / 1.065.804
[NGB] Pokémon Red / Green / Blue / Yellow (Nintendo) {1996.02.27} - 315.443 / 9.980.029
[NGB] Pokémon Puzzle Challenge (Nintendo) {2000.09.21} - 108.376 / 108.376
[NGB] Pokémon Trading Card Game (Nintendo) {1998.12.18} - 51.010 / 931.614

Total - 3.923.729

[NGB] Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters IV (Konami) {2000.12.07} - 1.669.307 / 1.669.307
[NGB] Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters III (Konami) {2000.07.13} - 718.429 / 718.429
[NGB] Yu-Gi-Oh! Monster Capsule (Konami) {2000.04.13} - 129.095 / 129.095
[NGB] Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters II: Dark Duel Stories (Konami) {1999.07.08} - 87.768 / 984.864

Total - 2.604.599

 

[Man God]

A direct sequel comes out five months later and does 1.6 million in one country in less than a month. Amazing. Shows what a manga/anime/game trifecta can do at its peak.

 

[Sandfox]

If the Vita's big releases for the most part are niche titles that max out in the 50-100k range and it only gets a few of those series its could happen.

 

[Hellraider]

[NGB] Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters IV (Konami) {2000.12.07} - 1.669.307 / 1.669.307
[NGB] Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters III (Konami) {2000.07.13} - 718.429 / 718.429
[NGB] Yu-Gi-Oh! Monster Capsule (Konami) {2000.04.13} - 129.095 / 129.095
[NGB] Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters II: Dark Duel Stories (Konami) {1999.07.08} - 87.768 / 984.864

Total - 2.604.599

Okay, I had no idea yugioh games were once this big.Wow.
Where the hell is my 3DS game, konami?

 

[Mr Swine]

Vita software for 2013 will be somewhere between 2-3 million. Maybe 3+ if something "big" releases.

That much? How much is it up to now?

 

[Hero]

I'm not sure what title could effectively carry the Vita this holiday season in Japan.

 

[Dalthien]

Handheld software sales

GBA {2001.03.21}

2001 CY {2001.01.01 - 2001.12.30} [GBA] Software Sales - 7.109.800 / 7.109.800
2002 CY {2001.12.31 - 2002.12.29} [GBA] Software Sales - 12.260.100 / 19.369.900
2003 CY {2002.12.30 - 2003.12.28} [GBA] Software Sales - 13.267.300 / 32.637.200
2004 CY {2003.12.29 - 2004.12.26} [GBA] Software Sales - 17.099.300 / 49.736.500
2005 CY {2004.12.27 - 2005.12.25} [GBA] Software Sales - 6.976.318 / 56.712.800
2006 CY {2005.12.26 - 2006.12.31} [GBA] Software Sales - 3.071.700 / 59.784.500
2007 CY {2007.01.01 - 2007.12.30} [GBA] Software Sales - 433.600 / 60.218.100

PSP {2004.12.12}

2004 CY {2003.12.29 - 2004.12.26} [PSP] Software Sales - 550.665 / 550.665
2005 CY {2004.12.27 - 2005.12.25} [PSP] Software Sales - 4.179.374 / 4.730.039
2006 CY {2005.12.26 - 2006.12.31} [PSP] Software Sales - 6.659.000 / 11.389.000
2007 CY {2007.01.01 - 2007.12.30} [PSP] Software Sales - 6.750.169 / 18.139.200
2008 CY {2007.12.31 - 2008.12.28} [PSP] Software Sales - 9.745.758 / 27.885.000
2009 CY {2008.12.29 - 2009.12.27} [PSP] Software Sales - 9.850.000 / 37.735.000
2010 CY {2009.12.28 - 2010.12.26} [PSP] Software Sales - 16.255.643 / 53.990.600
2011 CY {2010.12.27 - 2011.12.25} [PSP] Software Sales - 13.975.141 / 67.965.700
2012 CY {2011.12.26 - 2012.12.30} [PSP] Software Sales - 7.701.189 / 75.666.900

3DS {2011.02.26}

2011 CY {2010.12.27 - 2011.12.25} [3DS] Software Sales - 7.104.325 / 7.104.325
2012 CY {2011.12.26 - 2012.12.30} [3DS] Software Sales - 17.521.578 / 24.625.903

I hadn't realized that the 3DS in its 2nd year has already topped every single year of software the GBA and PSP ever had.

Nice update Chris.

 

[Jamix012]

I'm not sure what title could effectively carry the Vita this holiday season in Japan.

Do we know if FFX could be released in time for the holidays? I think it'll get a modest boost from that.

 

[Man God]

Do we know if FFX could be released in time for the holidays? I think it'll get a modest boost from that.

It most likely will be but being an "HD" remake, not having FFX-2 bundled in and the PS3 version being a much better value on a better platform will really hurt this release.

 

[Chris1964]

That much? How much is it up to now?

3DS will be close to 25. For Vita standards 2-3 is much though.

 

[michaelius]

That much? How much is it up to now?

Over 700k counting only famitsu top 30 numbers.

 

[frankie_baby]

It most likely will be but being an "HD" remake, not having FFX-2 bundled in and the PS3 version being a much better value on a better platform will really hurt this release.

i could easily see the vita version not going much past 50k

 

[Jamix012]

It most likely will be but being an "HD" remake, not having FFX-2 bundled in and the PS3 version being a much better value on a better platform will really hurt this release.

Well yeah, but as Vita standards go it's one of the console's biggest releases for the second half of this year of the line up we know so far. And it may not even make it for the holiday season? Do we know roughly when it's slated?
Maybe I'm overestimating the power of a starved userbase but I feel like FFX and FFX 2 could get a combined sales of 150k on the Vita if they launch during the holidays.

 

[frankie_baby]

Well yeah, but as Vita standards go it's one of the console's biggest releases for the second half of this year of the line up we know so far. And it may not even make it for the holiday season? Do we know roughly when it's slated?
Maybe I'm overestimating the power of a starved userbase but I feel like FFX and FFX 2 could get a combined sales of 150k on the Vita if they launch during the holidays.

most (if not almost all) vita owners apparently also own a ps3, why would they separate vita games over a combined ps3 version

 

[michaelius]

most (if not almost all) vita owners apparently also own a ps3, why would they separate vita games over a combined ps3 version

How enjoyable is playing your ps3 in train ?

 

[Nekki]

Handheld software sales

GBA {2001.03.21}

2001 CY {2001.01.01 - 2001.12.30} [GBA] Software Sales - 7.109.800 / 7.109.800
2002 CY {2001.12.31 - 2002.12.29} [GBA] Software Sales - 12.260.100 / 19.369.900

PSP {2004.12.12}

2004 CY {2003.12.29 - 2004.12.26} [PSP] Software Sales - 550.665 / 550.665
2005 CY {2004.12.27 - 2005.12.25} [PSP] Software Sales - 4.179.374 / 4.730.039

NDS {2004.12.02}

2004 CY {2003.12.29 - 2004.12.26} [NDS] Software Sales - 1.211.374 / 1.211.374
2005 CY {2004.12.27 - 2005.12.25} [NDS] Software Sales - 11.753.491 / 12.964.865

3DS {2011.02.26}

2011 CY {2010.12.27 - 2011.12.25} [3DS] Software Sales - 7.104.325 / 7.104.325
2012 CY {2011.12.26 - 2012.12.30} [3DS] Software Sales - 17.521.578 / 24.625.903

Awesome. Though the DS comparison is moot since it will overtake it this year. By comparsion (not with 3DS, but the other handhelds), Vita's numbers are really sad.