Yo the PS4 got a bump!!!
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Media Create Sales: Week 16, 2014 (Apr 14 - Apr 20)
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Yo the PS4 got a bump!!!
True, in a world where you can get kick ass 7 inch tablets with full HD screens for less than 200 the 3DS is anything but cheap.
gigantor21
Member
...well, shit. Talk about a complete collapse.
- The Vita is the only system showing consistent year-over-year growth, but not by nearly enough to make the sales any more than mediocre at best.
- The 3DS has completely and utterly fallen off a cliff compared to last year. Nintendo has hit saturation at current prices/models; it needs to do something about one or the other (or both).
- The PS4 continues to get fucked over by it's thin line-up of titles frontloaded with Western stuff and ports.
- The WiiU is the WiiU.
- Everything else is just old as hell.
And as usual, Rolex Watch continues to be frightening. Giraffes would think its are ridiculous.
So did the PSP and 360...lol
Metallix87
Member
Indeed. I imagine they already have a few teams working on launch software, and their hardware team has likely been working on it for quite some time. The absolute latest the new hardware comes out is December 2015.
theprodigy
Member
Don't know about that, didn't 3DS do 113k in April last year and it's down ~30% YoY or so?
Yo-Kai Watch #1
For the first time since launch.
Longest time to reach no. 1:
2005-09-26 [GBA] Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2004-02-14} - 42.502 / 842.790 86 weeks
2014-04-14 [3DS] Youkai Watch (Level 5) {2013-07-11} - 49.146 / 757.821 41 weeks
2005-09-05 [NDS] Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day! (Nintendo) {2005-05-19} - 35.094 / 524.666 17 weeks
1997-03-31 [PS1] I.Q Intelligent Qube (SCE) {1997-01-31} - 58.778 / 424.585 10 weeks
My search also returns 1997-04-14 [NGB] Pokémon Red / Green (Nintendo) {1996-02-27} - 33.531 / 1.635.095 60 weeks, but I'm not sure if it's right due to some weeks missing in 1996, I think.
All Famitsu.
Metallix87
Member
I thought they were waiting for Golden Week, but with no announcement in sight, I'm not sure what's going on.
3ds redesign incoming
prag16
Banned
Heh, oh just you wait until Kart drops. People are gonna love Wii U appearing above PS4 on these charts.. (sales for both will still likely be very poor.)
Metallix87
Member
No way, at least not without 2DS out in the Japanese market for a few months.
Metallix87
Member
I don't think anyone believes the Wii U will go Wii. People are just hopeful that Mario Kart and SSB can get it to go Gamecube.
PdotMichael
Banned
You shouldn't make the mistake to ignore the actual and future perfomance because the first years were good. It's obvious that the 3DS was frontloaded because of an aggresive pricing, several hardware revisions and releases of various important IPs at an early stage of it's lifetime. Kind of like the Wii brand didn't have any legs - although for slightly different reasons.
But everything is okay.
Yeah, it depends on how much it drops. Still, awful numbers for the system.
Also this was the fifth worst week ever for 3DS hardware (M-C).
2011-07-04 22,943
2011-05-09 18,324
2011-05-16 17,240
2011-07-25 16,415
2011-08-01 4,132
http://garaph.info/besttoworst.php?sys=3DS&gr=hf&tra=mc
Price cut, Smash, MH4G and DQXI announcement can't come soon enough.
Looking at the Wii U and 3DS YTD 2014 vs 2013 is horrible, they're both doing really bad.
The 3DS really needs a permanent price drop (not through sales or bundles) along with a new model out this year. When do you guys expect the 3DS' successor? 2015, or will they wait until 2016?
The 3DS really needs a permanent price drop (not through sales or bundles) along with a new model out this year. When do you guys expect the 3DS' successor? 2015, or will they wait until 2016?
2016.
theprodigy
Member
and just for NPD comparisons for the 3DS:
January-March 2013: 559k
January-March 2014: 411k
April 2013: ~113k
April 2014: ??? (almost certainly <100k)
January-March 2013: 559k
January-March 2014: 411k
April 2013: ~113k
April 2014: ??? (almost certainly <100k)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=801582
This is the move for the next few months. I suppose the (if it exists) revision will come after the promotion ends.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
These fucking numbers. No words, just
I think the key would be a couple of first party titles like 3D Mario and then getting Japanese third parties on board early by designing the system to their every request.
It won't sell a ton up front like that, but honestly launch 3DS numbers with a strong chance for notable upside after a year or so on the market is still a much better place than where the 3DS is now.
michaelius
Banned
Cheap hardware is precisely reason why 3DS is barely matching psp sales in west.
To get back marketshare lost to tablets you need device that will be cool to own and use in public. And it needs to have multimedia features like a modern tablet which neither Vita and especially 3DS don't have.
Basically it needs to remove any needs such person would have for tablet/kindle/ipod while delivering games of higher quality than phone.
If Nintendo goes cheap again their userbase will be halved again and two generations from now they will be strugling to hit Gamecube numbers.
Smiles and Cries
Member
good stuff really nice research
Metallix87
Member
I actually wish they would launch the "4DS" with a new Animal Crossing. I think the Wii U doesn't really need a game in that series, while the handheld successor would come out of the gates swinging with a title that big and important.
Duuude DQXI is WiiU/PS4.
Metallix87
Member
I don't think trying to get people to use a 4DS instead of a smartphone or tablet is a reasonable goal...
Why would SE send DQ to it's deathbed?
no it's okay. it's another mmo.
Exactly. A Nintendo handheld will never be the all-in-one device people use.
Metallix87
Member
michaelius
Banned
Then say good bye to dedicated handhelds in 2-3 generation. Because competition for free time of consumers is only going to get more fierce over next years.
Metallix87
Member
Possibly, but then again, a dedicated device will always have an audience, even if it's only 40 million people as opposed to 100 million people.
KillerMan91
Member
Well if you want that Nintendo basically runs itself without any revenue. 3DS won't last until (late) 2016. At least not in sense that Nintendo needs it to last.
Sad that the place where videogames were born, is where they're dying first. The circle of life.
Has Nintendo even capitalised on this mobile boom yet like they said they would in the january investor meeting or are they going to wait till it's too late? Surely it doesn't take long to develop mobile marketing apps.
Has Nintendo even capitalised on this mobile boom yet like they said they would in the january investor meeting or are they going to wait till it's too late? Surely it doesn't take long to develop mobile marketing apps.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Man, I really hope there's a mini-mobile market crash (I don't think the crash would ruin the mobile market, but just make it not so overwhelmingly dominant). The symptoms to the original crash are already apparent in the mobile market with the saturation of terrible and manipulative software.
I just want it to stagnate, so developers and publishers will stop flocking to it, and just treat it as it's own avenue for returns just like PC and console space. Right now (in Japan) it's still the "new hotness" that everyone wants a piece of.
I just want it to stagnate, so developers and publishers will stop flocking to it, and just treat it as it's own avenue for returns just like PC and console space. Right now (in Japan) it's still the "new hotness" that everyone wants a piece of.
I can't think of a single way that you can define Japan as the birthplace of videogames...
Freeman
Banned
That is just not true. Its the place where Japanese games were born, for obvious reasons.
ambientmystic
Member
To a segment of GAF (especially JRPG, non-FPS and Action home console GAF etc.), it might as well be where gaming was born for them.
For me, it (the death and decay) sort of happened already during the post PS2 era when the mass exodus to mobile happened, starting with the dissolution of the B-tier JRPG console devs like Sacnoth (Nautilus) et.al.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
So we can finally answer the heated question about whether FF XIV is a PS4 system seller.
No.
No.
It probably doesn't help that the average age in the country is aging rapidly.. It currently has the 2nd highest "average" age at 44.6, only being outdone by Monaco at 48.9; Less kids mean there are going to be less "new" customers. To be honest the outlook is pretty bleak overall. It will honestly be pretty interesting to see what happens. At the rate they are going there will not be enough younger people to take care of the old.
So while this may not be currently as large an issue; In the long term I don't see stuff selling as well as it used to regardless of what it really is. Shit sucks, and no one knows what to do about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aging_of_Japan
Whatever.
Deep Down is the online game everyone wants to play. PS4 sales will jump a lot when it is released.
FFXI didn't sell 360s, so I am not sure what people were expecting. It's a late port.
Define a lot. Not having a retail option is going to hurt.
QOL is 2015 so 4DS will not hit until 2016 at the earliest.
Software sales for the 3DS seem to be decent enough even if the hardware sales are struggling at the moment. You shouldn't just throw a 15M userbase away that easily. The best bet to increase sales is price cuts and good games. Better to take risks on some new IPs than rushing a new piece of hardware.
Software sales for the 3DS seem to be decent enough even if the hardware sales are struggling at the moment. You shouldn't just throw a 15M userbase away that easily. The best bet to increase sales is price cuts and good games. Better to take risks on some new IPs than rushing a new piece of hardware.
1st Course
Member
They will probably announce Caravan Heart (Dragon Quest Monsters III) remake first.
SE already remaked the first two games so this most likely getting the same treatment. After that maybe we will see DQ XI announcement.