metalslimer
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Some people just have different tastes. It's obvious the market completely disagrees, so honestly it doesn't matter what a few people want.
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Media Create Sales: Week 6, 2013 (Feb 04 - Feb 10)
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Some people just have different tastes. It's obvious the market completely disagrees, so honestly it doesn't matter what a few people want.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Agreed. 3DS smokes 'em both pretty easily.
test_account
XP-39C²
I think people buying a gaming system soley because of the specs is a myth. I would say that it always come down to the content. The specs are what makes the games possible.
3DS beast mode is nuts. With MH4 and Pokemon XY this year plus whatever else it should be their best year yet.
Maybe in a year the Wii U will improve.
How many software releases have Wii U and Vita both had in the last three weeks?
Maybe in a year the Wii U will improve.
How many software releases have Wii U and Vita both had in the last three weeks?
The Horror the horror
Banned
What are some of the best games (or your favorite games) on the Vita, and what games comparable to those titles are currently available on iOS that are not comparable to anything in the 3DS library?
frankie_baby
Member
cant see tank selling anything seeing as the freemium version is already out (might hit 43 in the chart if its lucky) nfs may do better due to software starvation especially now seeing as it looks like the first real effort port, how did the ps3 version do?
Dude, I'm sure you feel that way and more power to you. That's exactly what I'm saying though, the libraries are very different. If you dig one, you probably won't dig the other. You can't replace a 3DS with a Vita and you can't replace a Vita with a 3DS. That's why it's such a shame that only one of them is commercially viable.Agreed. 3DS smokes 'em both pretty easily.
Baconsammy
Banned
Agreed. 3DS smokes 'em both pretty easily.
When your big holiday release is Sticker Star, the only thing you're smoking is weed.
I'm not a fan of the Sony cross-play initiative. I'd rather play all of those games on PS3. I'm also not a fan of Nintendo's cheap/lazy approach to hardware. If I could take their software and put it on the Vita, that would be my ideal handheld experience at this point. As it stands, now I mostly game on an iPad Mini and occasionally on 3DS. Anyone that says the iOS devices are lacking in games is willfully ignorant or just blind.
When you have a free market this is what happens when your product fails to be appealing to a wide audience. You think it's coincidence that every Nintendo handheld has dominated with weaker hardware specs compared to their competition?
Here comes Baconsammy to talk about US data in a Japanese sales thread again, everybody get prepared for zingers like these.
yellowjacket25
Member
It wasn't just for the hardware, I was excited about the games they announced for it as well. Its a combination of the two. The idea of playing Wipeout, and Uncharted with great graphics on great hardware was more appealing to me than playing Mario and Pokemon on outdated hardware, with outdated graphics. Part of the appeal of any games to me is how advanced they are. Nintendo might be able to make really good games for an 8 bit black and white system but im not really going to be interested in playing them.
grimshawish
Banned
Sticker Star has done well WW and is a good game.
Not amazing but solid. Along with VLR I was reasonably content.
Luigi needed the delay so hopefully its good.
but the big holiday title is Animal Crossing: New Leaf though.
metalslimer
Member
First week sales. yeah Wii u version isn't doing anything. Also is this really about to turn into a Vita vs 3DS library topic? Dave has already acknowlegded his tastes are completely different that what the market wants, so even drag it out anymore?
frankie_baby
Member
so you're saying thats a good thing?
Didn't that game sell more than 2 million worldwide? Doesn't seem so bad to me. It's no Mario Kart, of course.
Baconsammy
Banned
I suppose you could see it that way. I suppooooose.
I have no idea what it sold, but I do know that over the 3DS's second holiday in the US, it sold hundreds of thousands fewer units. Not good. Software should be helping to build hardware sales momentum in the second year, not lessen it.
Baki
Member
metalslimer
Member
Shipped number.
Vita's big holiday game was one of the most abysmal titles released last year. But if we're talking in a sales comparison, Sticker Star alone sold more than Vita's 2 big holiday titles.
I've been meaning to ask- why is your avatar baby yoshi?
Baconsammy
Banned
I'm a fan of babies being molested apparently. If they're Yoshis.
Unless I mention Vita by name, I'm not comparing the two. In regards to sales, I don't often compare the two since the Vita isn't fit to wear the 3DS's jock on its head like a helmet.
I'm Wiid U.
I don't think the specs being low plays any part at all. They dominate because they have Mario and Pokemon (and now MH & DQ).
God I hope not. They offer different things to different people. In a sales topic, the 3DS library is the clear winner.
Like I said, it's no Mario Kart. But it performed well enough to be considered a worthwhile holiday title.
Baconsammy
Banned
There's "selling great because it's great" and then there's "selling pretty good because it's all we got." Sticker Star is not great (opinion). Sticker Star benefited (opinion) from being pretty much the only high profile release around the holiday.
Edit: where are you seeing 2 million sold before and during the holidays? It sold OK in Japan and then quickly fell off. It charted very poorly in the US and Europe.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
3DS also wins in the quantity aspect too.
metalslimer
Member
The low specs allow Nintendo to sell the 3DS at 15k yen which is a big reason why it is dominating. Even still the 3DS is not that far removed hardware wise (besides screen resolution) from the year it was set to release in (2010). Mobile device has advanced at an insane pace in the last couple of years and the one year gap between Vita and 3DS was absolutely enormous in terms of hardware power.
That argument only applies to launch titles. People won't buy shit games during the holidays when a platform has been out as long as the 3DS has. The novelty of buying anything just because it's there has long since worn off.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Q4 was rough. Thank fuck for Q1 and Q2 though, I'm picking up a ton of games now (Fire Emblem, Etrian Odyssey, Luigi's Mansion, Soul Hackers, MH3U, Animal Crossing, maybe Castlevania, maybe Sonic Racing, etc, etc)
Baconsammy
Banned
I'll probably buy more in Q1 than I bought in all of last year.
I'm pretty confident that the 3DS would still be whupping the Vita even if they were priced the same. The library is too perfectly assembled and tailored to Japanese tastes for the Vita to overcome. Hell, you could probably charge more for the 3DS and still win handsomely. As we've already said a million times, a minority of a minority want the Vita, everyone else wants the 3DS. Hardware and services just don't matter to the masses.
The Horror the horror
Banned
The 3DS saw releases of Animal Crossing, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, Fantasy Life, and Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney all within a month of Paper Mario's release - all falling around the holiday - so WTF are you talking about it being "all we got"?
metalslimer
Member
If the 3DS had stayed at 250 alongside Vita without a pricecut we could have a much more competitive scenario if a few 3rd parties had switched over to Vita. Sure it might not be selling 70k a week, but it wouldn't be the disaster it is now. Low specs have afforded Nintendo the opportunity for the last 18 years to be in the mass market price range.
Presumably there is a mix of western talk in this topic since people seem to be comparing libraries.
Baconsammy
Banned
The discussion you're jumping into was more general than one specific region. If you're talking specifically about Japan, the situation is obviously much different. If you talk about all regions, the software situation around the holidays was anemic at best. And that shows itself very vividly in software charts that show Mario Kart and SML3D charting while new games appear low on the list or never at all.
Yeah, the 3DS (announced 2010) is roughly on par with the iPhone 3GS (top-of-the-line 2009 smartphone) with the added benefit of being a closed platform. It's probably their most up to date portable design yet.
This is a japanese sales thread, your are just derailing this thread.
What is the next big release for 3DS?
Are you saying you're surprised when someone starts talking about the western market releases from November-December in the Japanese weekly sales thread?
The Horror the horror
Banned
This is a JAPANESE SALES THREAD.
Baconsammy
Banned
The discussion within the thread turned to a more general discussion. I didn't start that divergence, but I commented on it. Tangents often sprout up within threads, and this one was related to sales so at least it's semi-on topic.
I think that depends on the type of hardware/services. People seem to be willing to pay premium prices for Apples hardware and services. Moreso than cheaper alternatives.
This.
What a horrible game. I fear the pretty good sales for this shit means the next Paper Mario will be a non-RPG, item using snoozefest as well
This! The guy is being intentionally fucking oblivious!
This.
What a horrible game. I fear the pretty good sales for this shit means the next Paper Mario will be a non-RPG, item using snoozefest as well
Then go onto Club Nintendo and do the survey and say what you didn't like. They read that stuff. Try not to use hyperbole so they can take you seriously.
Nothing to add here except that I love your new modified Avy.
Baconsammy
Banned
Then go onto Club Nintendo and do the survey and say what you didn't like. They read that stuff. Try not to use hyperbole so they can take you seriously.
I wonder to what degree Nintendo follows critical reception to their games. Not the surveys, but actual critical response from mags/websites.
BruceLeeRoy does good work.
Um I don't believe you. I did the XL survey and put that the reason I got the system was to play Super Metroid and Super Mario RPG and neither are on the eShop yet. All lies!Then go onto Club Nintendo and do the survey and say what you didn't like. They read that stuff. Try not to use hyperbole so they can take you seriously.
All charts launch-aligned.
Note, since these draw only from the top 10 they do not represent smaller titles.
e.g., software sales of zero are assumed if the console has no games in the top 10.
Tally of the number of titles for that platform in the top 20 for each week.
I can't find the top 20 for PS3's second week. It has been assumed as zero.
Feel free to criticize or point out mistakes.
Note, since these draw only from the top 10 they do not represent smaller titles.
e.g., software sales of zero are assumed if the console has no games in the top 10.
Tally of the number of titles for that platform in the top 20 for each week.
I can't find the top 20 for PS3's second week. It has been assumed as zero.
Feel free to criticize or point out mistakes.
Well I assume they do follow them to an extent.
Haha. They did read the Super Paper Mario survey to determine that people didn't really care about the story.
Anyways, sorry for going off-topic.
Baconsammy
Banned
That's why people should never expect the Wii U, or any console, to be the Wii. It's obviously the exception and not the rule.
The Horror the horror
Banned
That's why people should never expect the Wii U, or any console, to be the Wii. It's obviously the exception and not the rule.
No one is expecting this. Iwata himself said that the Wii was lightning in a bottle. Who said that the Wii U was going to be doing Wii numbers, or are you just making stuff up again?
He said that's why people shouldn't expect Wii like numbers, he did not say that people said they expected Wii like numbers.