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Media Create Sales: Week 7, 2013 (Feb 11 - Feb 17)

saichi

Member
I believe when the third party direct for Wii U comes out, everyone will shit their pants. The way third parties unanimously supported the 3DS despite sluggish sales shows me Iwata has convinced third parties to help them build a solid start for their platforms. They've proved it with the 3DS, convincing them to support the Wii U isn't gonna hard. If what I'm thinking is correct, this decision would have been made long before the Wii U even launched, just like it was with the 3DS. I don't think they'll cancel their projects for the Wii U because of lack of sales, maybe they will if their initial support bombs, but not before it.

Is this just wishful thinking?

I'll keep my expectation low so when it actually happens, I can shit my pants.

EDIT:

me too. I mean: we just saw PS3 and 3DS bumps! 150 and over 200k. For a system not as appealing as those at that time, I expect way less, but not so low.

PS3 and 3DS also had bigger price cut than VITA is having. (and PS3 had a redesign too)
 
Its been three years since GT5 and Kaz told us dev time would be far less this time. By 2014 it would have been 4 years. Not to mention their recent expansion.

If Sony is any smart (big if, I know) Evolution and PD can share a lot of car and track assets, saving time and money and Sony can have push DriveClub for launch, have GT6P by Fall 2014 and a content rich, all premium cars and tracks GT6 by 2015. Or they can get rid of Prologue and push GT6 in 2014. At the same time, PD could push out a GTVita this Fall.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
21./11. [PSV] Genkai Totsuki Monster Monpiece # <TBL> (Compile Heart) {2013.01.24} (¥7.140)
22./25. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
23./00. [PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw (Kadokawa Games Collection) <ACT> (Kadokawa Games) {2013.02.14} (¥3.980)
24./00. [PSP] Battle Robot Soul <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.14} (¥6.280)
25./17. [PS3] Hitman: Absolution <ADV> (Square Enix) {2013.01.24} (¥7.980)
26./27. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.10.04} (¥7.980)
27./26. [3DS] Magician's Quest: Magical Town <ETC> (Konami) {2012.12.20} (¥4.980)
28./00. [PSP] Harukanaru Toki no Naka de: Hachiyoushou # <ADV> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.02.14} (¥5.040)
29./28. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (PSP the Best) <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.09.22} (¥2.990)
30./31. [3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.09.27} (¥4.800)
31./33. [3DS] Aikatsu! Cinderella Lesson <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.15} (¥5.040)
32./34. [3DS] Toriko: Gourmet Monsters! <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.12.13} (¥5.800)
33./29. [3DS] Pokèmon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity <RPG> (Pokèmon Co.) {2012.11.23} (¥4.800)
34./30. [3DS] Puyo Puyo!! Puyo Puyo 20th Anniversary (Special Price) <PZL> (Sega) {2012.12.13} (¥2.940)
35./24. [PSP] Digimon Adventure <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.01.17} (¥6.280)
36./22. [PS3] Kamisama to Unmei Kakumei no Paradox # <RPG> (Nippon Ichi Software) {2013.01.24} (¥7.140)
37./00. [360] Galactic Force <STG> (Qute) {2013.02.14} (¥7.140)
38./46. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Subtitled Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2012.11.22} (¥7.980)
39./35. [PS3] Battlefield 3: Premium Edition <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2012.12.13} (¥9.240)
40./37. [PS3] Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational # <SPT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2012.11.22} (¥4.980)
41./00. [PSV] Silent Hill: Book of Memories <RPG> (Konami) {2013.02.14} (¥5.980)
42./21. [PS3] PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale <FTG> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.01.31} (¥5.980)
43./42. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.11.01} (¥3.980)
44./50. [WII] Mario Kart Wii <RCE> (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} (¥5.800)
45./15. [PSP] Heroes' Vs <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.07} (¥6.280)
46./43. [3DS] Kobito Zukan: Kobito Kansatsu Set <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2012.07.26} (¥5.040)
47./39. [PSP] One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.12.20} (¥5.980)
48./32. [PSP] Gintama no Sugoroku <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.01.24} (¥6.280)
49./44. [WII] Wii Sports Resort with Wii Remote Plus # <SPT> (Nintendo) {2010.11.11} (¥5.800)
50./45. [PSP] AKB1/149: Love Election # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.12.20} (¥7.329)

Top 50

3DS - 18
PS3 - 11
PSP - 10
PSV - 4
WII - 3
WIU - 2
360 - 1
NDS - 1

SOFTWARE
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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
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|  ALL  |    664.000 |  1.337.000 |    771.000 |  6.432.000 |  6.540.000 |
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Psycho_Mantis said:
No there are not. As always there will certain franchises that will be available exclusively on consoles.

FF, MGS, RE, SF, Tales of, Yakuza, etc...
Haven't most of these had some pretty successful handheld-exclusive entries? Peace Walker even seems like it nearly ended up with the MGS5 name.
 

Kid Ying

Member
Haven't most of these had some pretty successful handheld-exclusive entries? Peace Walker even seems like it nearly ended up with the MGS5 name.
They had, but mostly in Japan.

I think right now there's no reason to think Wiiu will have bad support from thirds... But no reason to think it'll be great either.

People say the support is awful right now, but i don't think so. Wii already have two musou games, one Tekken, one Monster Hunter and DQ... Even though most were late ports, you can't compare that support with the one Wii got it in terms of quality for it first months.

Right now, it's only in Nintendo hands to change the situation of those sales. The games will come when that happens.

My biggest concern now is if Banco will release Taiko on the Wiiu or make another final release on the Wii. I still believe some of those sales are being made by japanese with Wiiu and nothing casual to play. And i think it was a surprise that the new Kamen Rider didn't got a Wiiu sku when the series always sold well on the Wii.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Getting repetitive I know, but I'll say again I think some of the Wii U doom is very premature.

Wii U fate in Japan (and worldwide) is pretty much sealed for me. Third parties don't care and Nintendo doesn't have the software hit and/or hardware innovation that can sell the system. Even if all their studios decide to focus to the system they still don't have the power to support it alone.

I was optimistc (only) for Japan but after third week sales it was pretty clear what would follow. Not that I expect much better things from PS4. Japanese market has turned around only one system and there isn't a competitor for it.
 

Road

Member
Prediction League March, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Feb 25 to Mar 31):

[PSV] Hardware (35 days) -
[3DS] Prof. Layton to Choubunmei A no Isan (32 days) -
[PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (32 days) -
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 (32 days) -
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice (25 days) -
[PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F (25 days) -
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX (18 days) -
[3DS] Luigi Mansion 2 (12 days) -
[PS3/PSV] One Piece: Kaizoku Musou 2 (12 days) -
[WIU] Game & Wario (4 days) -



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Deadline: February, 27th 08:00 am (EST) (when Famitsu or Media Create first make their weekly sales public)

Attention:
  • Remember for some games it's not only the 1st week.
  • Multiplatform games are the combined available sales of each platform.
Rules:
  • The official monthly hardware sales will be the sum of weekly numbers for all versions of the system available from Famitsu.
  • The official monthly software sales will be the latest total or the sum of the weekly numbers if the title is release before the period available from the Famitsu Top 30.
  • The official monthly sales for multi-platform releases will be the combined available sales of each platform shown in the title entry.
  • The official monthly sales for games with multiple versions will be the combined available sales of each version shown in the title entry.
  • Any game missing in the Famitsu top 30 will be taken out of the predictions.
  • Any item missing in your prediction will be considered as if you had predicted zero for its sales.
 

Busaiku

Member
I do wonder how Professor Layton And The Azran Legacies will fare.
Miracle Mask wasn't too hot, but it was a launch game, in a bad launch period.

Level 5's been stepping back up lately, and Inazuma 11's been holding alright, so I definitely see it doing better, but I wonder if it can get around Last Specter.
 
Wii U fate in Japan (and worldwide) is pretty much sealed for me. Third parties don't care and Nintendo doesn't have the software hit and/or hardware innovation that can sell the system. Even if all their studios decide to focus to the system they still don't have the power to support it alone.

I was optimistc (only) for Japan but after third week sales it was pretty clear what would follow. Not that I expect much better things from PS4. Japanese market has turned around only one system and there isn't a competitor for it.

I agree that Wii U's fate isn't very bright, but at the same time I can't bring myself to think that Nintendo won't be able to at least muster Gamecube sales out of the Wii U. The current track of sub Vita sales worldwide seems too much for a system that that hasn't had the usual big games from Nintendo. I also don't think it's going to have some miracle recovery in the face of Durango/PS4 in the west and the 3DS in Japan. I am going to wait till E3 before making my mind up about future support of the system though.
 

Bruno MB

Member
Prediction League March, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Feb 25 to Mar 31):

[PSV] Hardware (35 days) - 145.000
[3DS] Prof. Layton to Choubunmei A no Isan (32 days) - 248.000
[PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (32 days) - 80.000
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 (32 days) - 345.000
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice (25 days) - 125.000
[PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F (25 days) - 150.000
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX (18 days) - 155.000
[3DS] Luigi Mansion 2 (12 days) - 205.000
[PS3/PSV] One Piece: Kaizoku Musou 2 (12 days) - 515.000
[WIU] Game & Wario (4 days) - 62.000

 

zroid

Banned
Prediction League March, 2013

[PSV] Hardware (35 days) - 100000
[3DS] Prof. Layton to Choubunmei A no Isan (32 days) - 225000
[PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (32 days) - 66000
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 (32 days) - 400000
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice (25 days) - 125000
[PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F (25 days) - 167000
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX (18 days) - 210000
[3DS] Luigi Mansion 2 (12 days) - 250000
[PS3/PSV] One Piece: Kaizoku Musou 2 (12 days) - 450000
[WIU] Game & Wario (4 days) - 95000

 
[PSV] Hardware (35 days) - 170k
[3DS] Prof. Layton to Choubunmei A no Isan (32 days) - 250k
[PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (32 days) - 75k
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 (32 days) - 450k
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice (25 days) - 130k
[PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F (25 days) - 175k
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX (18 days) - 150k
[3DS] Luigi Mansion 2 (12 days) - 230k
[PS3/PSV] One Piece: Kaizoku Musou 2 (12 days) - 475k
[WIU] Game & Wario (4 days) - 50k
 

vareon

Member
I do wonder how Professor Layton And The Azran Legacies will fare.
Miracle Mask wasn't too hot, but it was a launch game, in a bad launch period.

Level 5's been stepping back up lately, and Inazuma 11's been holding alright, so I definitely see it doing better, but I wonder if it can get around Last Specter.

I think the increase of 3DS's more casual audience with the little help of Animal Crossing might push it better.
 

Currygan

at last, for christ's sake
I do wonder how Professor Layton And The Azran Legacies will fare.
Miracle Mask wasn't too hot, but it was a launch game, in a bad launch period.

Level 5's been stepping back up lately, and Inazuma 11's been holding alright, so I definitely see it doing better, but I wonder if it can get around Last Specter.

game's been on the amazon top ten for three weeks now. Doesn't man shite in real life, but it seems like people are very interested in it
 
Surprised by the low Project Diva predictions. That would be a franchise low.
Vita is limited by its userbase. Its not big enough to push a 300k selling game.

game's been on the amazon top ten for three weeks now. Doesn't man shite in real life, but it seems like people are very interested in it
Layton should do around 400k LTD. Which is solid and stable instead of the franchises trend of going down with each iteration.
 

Sandfox

Member
What's the point of a retail release of Tank! Tank! Tank! when its F2P on the Eshop? Did NB seriously think that was a good idea?
 

Yeshua

Member
Prediction League March, 2013

[PSV] Hardware (35 days) - 75000
[3DS] Prof. Layton to Choubunmei A no Isan (32 days) - 300000
[PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (32 days) - 80000
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 (32 days) - 380000
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice (25 days) - 140000
[PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F (25 days) - 150000
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX (18 days) - 120000
[3DS] Luigi Mansion 2 (12 days) - 300000
[PS3/PSV] One Piece: Kaizoku Musou 2 (12 days) - 500000
[WIU] Game & Wario (4 days) - 60000
 

vareon

Member
The Soul Sacrifice predictions seems low to me, I thought everyone was gonna predict 200-250k. Then again I know jack shiti about this lol.
 
Prediction League March, 2013

[PSV] Hardware (35 days) - 65000
[3DS] Prof. Layton to Choubunmei A no Isan (32 days) - 281000
[PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (32 days) - 71000
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 (32 days) - 400000
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice (25 days) - 185000
[PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F (25 days) - 108000
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX (18 days) - 156000
[3DS] Luigi Mansion 2 (12 days) - 283000
[PS3/PSV] One Piece: Kaizoku Musou 2 (12 days) - 450000
[WIU] Game & Wario (4 days) - 119000

 
None of the 3DS cancellations we know of were due to this. Most were in fact prelaunch too, and essentially all were for reasons outside market performance (Saints Row XBLA being killed, Garden being crap, ACR going HD, Konami murdering Hudson, Inafune quitting, LOS trumping Contra, etc). Actually, can you name a single 3DS cancellation that happened in spring 2011 that was due to how the system was selling?

Iwata did say the early 3DS price drop was an aggressive reaction whose purpose was in part to keep 3rd parties from dropping support and canceling projects though. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of?

I don't doubt that games were cancelled, but as with Vita, most of them were just never officially announced.
 

Foshy

Member
Prediction League March, 2013

[PSV] Hardware (35 days) - 180'000
[3DS] Prof. Layton to Choubunmei A no Isan (32 days) - 280'000
[PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (32 days) - 55'000
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 (32 days) - 400'000
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice (25 days) - 200'000
[PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F (25 days) - 200'000
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX (18 days) - 300'000
[3DS] Luigi Mansion 2 (12 days) - 350'000
[PS3/PSV] One Piece: Kaizoku Musou 2 (12 days) - 550'000
[WIU] Game & Wario (4 days) - 45'000
 

Road

Member
Unfortunately, the archive site with the links to the Comgnet preorder charts for every month since 2005 (and these links as well) all died. This is why I suddenly stopped doing comparisons. ._.

Maybe it was for the best. =P
www11.ocn.ne.jp/~taku64/cong/

Wait until the next thread. By then, maybe Soul Sacrifice will have appeared in the top 20...
 
[PSV] Hardware (35 days) - 100,000
[3DS] Prof. Layton to Choubunmei A no Isan (32 days) - 380,000
[PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (32 days) - 55,000
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 (32 days) - 300,000
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice (25 days) - 150'000
[PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F (25 days) - 200,000
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX (18 days) - 250,000
[3DS] Luigi Mansion 2 (12 days) - 250,000
[PS3/PSV] One Piece: Kaizoku Musou 2 (12 days) - 450,000
[WIU] Game & Wario (4 days) - 40,000
 

Spiegel

Member
If Sony is any smart (big if, I know) Evolution and PD can share a lot of car and track assets, saving time and money and Sony can have push DriveClub for launch, have GT6P by Fall 2014 and a content rich, all premium cars and tracks GT6 by 2015. Or they can get rid of Prologue and push GT6 in 2014. At the same time, PD could push out a GTVita this Fall.

In a recent post price drop interview Kawano (SCEJ president) basically said that first party-wise they don't give a fuck about the Vita and are courting third parties to fill the catalog.

I doubt GT Vita is in development and Puppeteer, TLG, Rain and now Knack seem to confirm this internal home console focus.
 
Prediction League March, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Feb 25 to Mar 31):

[PSV] Hardware (35 days) - 100,765
[3DS] Prof. Layton to Choubunmei A no Isan (32 days) - 224,000
[PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (32 days) - 86,500
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 (32 days) - 220,500
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice (25 days) - 91,000
[PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F (25 days) - 206,500
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX (18 days) - 142,500
[3DS] Luigi Mansion 2 (12 days) - 262,500
[PS3/PSV] One Piece: Kaizoku Musou 2 (12 days) - 345,765
[WIU] Game & Wario (4 days) - 80,000

 
[PSV] Hardware (35 days) - 120,000
[3DS] Prof. Layton to Choubunmei A no Isan (32 days) - 180,000
[PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (32 days) - 80,000
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 (32 days) - 280,000
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice (25 days) - 200,000
[PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F (25 days) - 300,000
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX (18 days) - 400,000
[3DS] Luigi Mansion 2 (12 days) - 220,000
[PS3/PSV] One Piece: Kaizoku Musou 2 (12 days) - 550,000 PS3
[WIU] Game & Wario (4 days) - 60,000

How are double paks for SS counted?
 

zroid

Banned
Do you guys think Nintendo will still be publishing Rayman Legends in Japan? I wonder... it would have been ideal around now, but I don't know if they'll want to spread their resources too thin in the fall. Plus there's probably some animosity there and maybe they'll outright refuse to do it.
 
Do you guys think Nintendo will still be publishing Rayman Legends in Japan? I wonder... it would have been ideal around now, but I don't know if they'll want to spread their resources too thin in the fall. Plus there's probably some animosity there and maybe they'll outright refuse to do it.

I think they will; Nintendo will want the game and Ubi are promising Watch_Dogs too.
Both will work hard to stop animosity; its not beneficial to either of them.
 
Prediction League March, 2013

[PSV] Hardware (35 days) - 77,777
[3DS] Prof. Layton to Choubunmei A no Isan (32 days) - 188,888
[PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (32 days) - 55,555
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 (32 days) - 333,333
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice (25 days) - 199,999
[PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F (25 days) - 111,111
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX (18 days) - 211,111
[3DS] Luigi Mansion 2 (12 days) - 222,222
[PS3/PSV] One Piece: Kaizoku Musou 2 (12 days) - 555,555
[WIU] Game & Wario (4 days) - 88,888
 
In a recent post price drop interview Kawano (SCEJ president) basically said that first party-wise they don't give a fuck about the Vita and are courting third parties to fill the catalog.

I doubt GT Vita is in development and Puppeteer, TLG, Rain and now Knack seem to confirm this internal home console focus.

SCEJ has been pretty worthless after the PS1 days regardless. I think GTVita will come though.

Why are people expecting Wario&Games to boost the WiiU sales when the majority of predictions have it under 100k? How did Mario Party games do on the Wii in Japan?
 
SCEJ has been pretty worthless after the PS1 days regardless. I think GTVita will come though.

Why are people expecting Wario&Games to boost the WiiU sales when the majority of predictions have it under 100k? How did Mario Party games do on the Wii in Japan?
MP8: 1,427,575
MP9: 638,912

WWSM: 654,200
 

Frodo

Member
Prediction League March, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Feb 25 to Mar 31):

[PSV] Hardware (35 days) - 125.500
[3DS] Prof. Layton to Choubunmei A no Isan (32 days) - 227.000
[PSV] Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus (32 days) - 62.000
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 (32 days) - 275.000
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice (25 days) - 110.000
[PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F (25 days) - 100.000
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX (18 days) - 147.000
[3DS] Luigi Mansion 2 (12 days) - 210.000
[PS3/PSV] One Piece: Kaizoku Musou 2 (12 days) - 495.000
[WIU] Game & Wario (4 days) - 65.000

 
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