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Metal Gear Community Thread: Made you wait, didn't I?
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Finish 3, forget 4 as best you can and I'll consider you well on the road back to sanity.
TheLetdown
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La-li-lu-le-lo. Subscribing to this. It's always been one of my favorite series.
I'm going through Peace Walker right now for the first time, since I had no PSP to try it on. (I played Portable Ops on my brother's when it came out. It's better than most people give it credit for, but PW destroys it in every aspect.) Can't wait to pick up GZ.
I'm going through Peace Walker right now for the first time, since I had no PSP to try it on. (I played Portable Ops on my brother's when it came out. It's better than most people give it credit for, but PW destroys it in every aspect.) Can't wait to pick up GZ.
CloudyTuba
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I'm going through PW right now, also. Just about to finish Chapter 3 I think.
I recommend watching the cutscenes on youtube or you know.. play the game.
It's a 4 hour game but it's probably the best 4 hour game ever made.
Noooo! 4 was definitely a mess, but I just loved all the ability's at your disposal as a character.
Has anyone seen this ground zeros deva vu joke vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG7qM1pZOGA
Best with anotations on just driving around the base
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG7qM1pZOGA
Best with anotations on just driving around the base
Plasma Snake
Banned
I swear people on here are going to make me revisit MGS4, I had played every mgs in the month prior, and didn't see what was so bad about MGS4. Loved it at the time.
Maybe it was the hype surrounding it?
Maybe it was the hype surrounding it?
MR BLACKMAGIK
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Question: Is the "Cipher" who is mentioned in GZ Major Zero or The Patriots? Because aren't they both nicknamed Cipher?
Look just do what I say and you'll be whole in no time.
I don't get the hate either, it's one of those things. Feels like Chrono Cross, FF7 type of hating for some reason.
I understand some of the grievances people have with certain story aspects but they are blown out of proportion to unreasonable degrees imo.
Mr. Luchador
Member
About time someone made this. Nice work OP!
Mr. Luchador
Member
Garry Gamer would love some MGS4.
Rogue Agent
Banned
'Cipher' can apply to both.
Don'tBeWeird
Member
INTRUDER TO THE LEFT!
MR BLACKMAGIK
Member
So when they say "Where is Cipher?" which are they talking about?
KittenMaster
Member
I think Ground Zeroes plot discussion is supposed to go in the spoiler thread because it's the newest game, so I'm spoiling my response:
"Where is Cipher? Where is Zero?" <- I think that gives an idea on what he means. He doesn't just want the organization, but also its leader. Also, he has only been getting orders by proxy but knows Paz has talked to Zero in person which is a large part of his interrogation, further suggestion he wants Zero.
Rogue Agent
Banned
That means Zero. In a previous sentence, Skull Face said
"Cipher's been in hiding ever since his grand experiment", and this refers to a person
Cipher is also an American private intelligence agency, which Kaz mentions to Snake.
MR BLACKMAGIK
Member
Ok thanks, that clears things up.
Polioliolio
Member
Hey, I did play it. I just wanted some clarification. It seemed at the end that there could have been an understanding between them, but instead, they just got angry at each other.
MiamiWesker
Member
MG2 must have been amazing when it first released. I played it after MGS and was shocked to see that it was basically a 2D version of MGS, MGS borrowed greatly from it. GB was a 2D game that was more faithful to MGS, the core gameplay felt so great. Tons of great boss battles, all the weapons from MGS1. Plus it had so many VR missions and different campaign modes, its massive. In terms of campaign to campaign MG2 and GB are close MG2 had the better story. But overall GB is the better game.
I was randomly felt like seeing if I couldn't be terrible at these games so went to do the virtuous mission on normal mode instead of easy like I always play on. Couldn't get through any of the whopping 3 screens with guards in 'em without causing alert upon alert -_- Then I realized hey thats what happens to me on easy mode to! Therefor I confer to myself the following status!
Codename: Badrats
Rank: E
bigboss_yourefired.wav
btw its silly how BB shrugs off gunshots and other wounds until he learns about the wonders of first aid. After which every little scratch cripples his health bar lol.
Codename: Badrats
Rank: E
bigboss_yourefired.wav
btw its silly how BB shrugs off gunshots and other wounds until he learns about the wonders of first aid. After which every little scratch cripples his health bar lol.
I actually played it again a couple of days ago, to see if my love for it wasn't just hype, and "maybe those other guys may be right about some points?"
But nope. A great as ever. A true masterpiece. I decided I would play just the first Act and ended up playing up to the third in one sitting.
A real masterpiece. Haters can go swim on a pool of nanomachines.
Woah, that's crazy!
I finished the virtuous mission without being spotted or taking down any enemies on Normal on my first and only playthrough (so far). I only realized how to use CQC once I began operation snake eater, though, so I merely relied on camouflage and sticking to moving slowly through plants for extra cover.
A tip I'd give you is to take your time while plotting out your routes, watching around to make sure you aren't going to be spotted while running from cover to cover, and crawling as much as possible if you aren't comfortable with moving around without alerting the guards. Crawl-walking in the 3DS version is also a godsend, since you can move at a decent speed without dropping your camouflage rating too much.
I also found it funny how all NPCs had some kind of ninja run animation, and that included The End, which was quite hilarious (I thought only Ocelot's henchment had it at first, since I hadn't triggered alerts with other NPCs).
ReignofSparrows
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Just bought MGS2/3 HD and am working my through all of the dog tags in 2 right now. It's really bringing me back to high school when the game was released. So many memories. I loved this series back then, and I'm having a ton of fun going back through these games years and years later.
Jane Mansfield
Banned
I would like to take a moment in this post to thank Pizza Hut for introducing this game in a free demo disc. You don't know how many hours I put into this demo, especially when I'm messing around with the Nikita missile launcher. XD
I'm kinda fine just thinking mgs1 is where it all ends. I played 2 as much, if not more than 1, but knowing what its really all about just sours the idea that it's a real continuation for Snake. TPP has a real shot at topping my all time favorite, 3. 4 is a ham fisted, convoluted, drawn out mess for me. God, the hype I had for that game going in...
KittenMaster
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MGS4 kinda poops on a lot of stuff from previous games by trying to incorporate every past character or element they could into the main plot, regardless of whether it's an appropriate use of that character or story element or not so I can see why some people would want to disregard it entirely even though it's completely impossible to do so now.
Yeah same here, really hated how they tried to explain the whole Patriots origin and the plot holes from earlier games.
This, kojima should of at least made two more main games instead of cramming everything into one. Really didn't like how they made Snake old, yes I know he's a clone and he was programmed with fail safe genes but I would of loved to play young snake again instead of a dieing old man.
Yeah he basically made a sequel to MGS1, 2, and 3. I guess he really wanted to be done with the series after that.
Agreed. I think it was a closure try that went wrong.
All the talk about "nanomachines (son)"sounds to me as dull and empty as Star Wars "midichlorians"
Noisepurge
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Soild Snake is, BY FAR, the best character in Metal Gear and the entire Saga is built around him. Even the games about Big Boss, they build around the idea that Solid Snake was the true and most sincere hero of the entire saga.
It was Solid Snake, who -without even ever meeting The Boss- was the closest one to her beliefs and her Will.
Solid Snake was the "inferior" one, the "left overs" and yet he was the one to triumph over both Big Boss and Liquid Snake.
It was Solid Snake who ,even though he was constantly used by the Goverment and others, still stayed true to his beliefs and his sencere will to fight for something good. He was constantly being deceived, betrayed, but he didnt turn into a villain like his Father.
Solid Snake is indeed the greatest legacy of Big Boss. In the end of MGS4 Big Boss finally understands that it wasnt his, nor Zero's interpretation of The Boss's will correct, but Solid Snake's. And he realizes that Solid Snake in his place, wouldnt have done the mistakes he did.
It was Solid Snake, the "inferior" one who trully surpassed Big Boss, Liquid and Solidus. He was the greatest failure of all this.
That is not to say that the other characters are not good, they are all great, but when it comes to the best of them, Solid Snake is the one..
And while we are at it here is my personnal ranking :
MGS1
MGS4
MGS3
MGS2
MGSW
And sorry but as far as talking about which game "ruined" the saga and is a "disgrace", I would consider the abomination of MG:R to be the one... I am not even listing it in my ranking.
It was Solid Snake, who -without even ever meeting The Boss- was the closest one to her beliefs and her Will.
Solid Snake was the "inferior" one, the "left overs" and yet he was the one to triumph over both Big Boss and Liquid Snake.
It was Solid Snake who ,even though he was constantly used by the Goverment and others, still stayed true to his beliefs and his sencere will to fight for something good. He was constantly being deceived, betrayed, but he didnt turn into a villain like his Father.
Solid Snake is indeed the greatest legacy of Big Boss. In the end of MGS4 Big Boss finally understands that it wasnt his, nor Zero's interpretation of The Boss's will correct, but Solid Snake's. And he realizes that Solid Snake in his place, wouldnt have done the mistakes he did.
It was Solid Snake, the "inferior" one who trully surpassed Big Boss, Liquid and Solidus. He was the greatest failure of all this.
That is not to say that the other characters are not good, they are all great, but when it comes to the best of them, Solid Snake is the one..
And while we are at it here is my personnal ranking :
MGS1
MGS4
MGS3
MGS2
MGS
WAnd sorry but as far as talking about which game "ruined" the saga and is a "disgrace", I would consider the abomination of MG:R to be the one... I am not even listing it in my ranking.
Ah I see, sorry for jumping into conclusions.
Did you see the horrible things Armstrong had done to try and achieve his goals? Like for example
scooping up brains of kids and putting them in VR training
I actually played it again a couple of days ago, to see if my love for it wasn't just hype, and "maybe those other guys may be right about some points?"
But nope. A great as ever. A true masterpiece. I decided I would play just the first Act and ended up playing up to the third in one sitting.
A real masterpiece. Haters can go swim on a pool of nanomachines.
Ahaha indeed!
The only problem I had with MGS 4's plot admittedly was how suddenly the MGS 3 cast was behind everything but then I started thinking about how little characterization they had in MGS 3 and how little we knew about them(like somebody else mentioned, they were barely characters), now that PW and MGS 5 is being made I am pretty sure MGS 4 will finally be "complete"! Thank god for prequels filling in the blanks xD
Nevertheless, MGS 4 is the most emotionally effective MGS and I still consider it to be a masterpiece(well like all 4 numbered entries really).
To me MGS 3 was a borefest for nearly half of the game and I didn't appreciate the rather simple and straightforward storytelling after coming off of MGS 2. The ending however still remains one of the best if not the best moment in the entire series.
Btw Valkyre that's an excellent synopsis of the Solid Snake character.
4 seem rushed but I still enjoyed it. Kojima needs back away from Metal Gear before he looses his mind haha. But would anyone be worried/disappointed if Metal Gear 1 and 2 were remade by a different director who was personally picked by Hideo?
Only reason I'd be worried is if the design philosophy was changed along with director. I'm wanting to see where Kojima takes this story in TPP, but if they came out and said, you know what? Forget the story, just gonna give you scenarios with this new game play, I'd be like...cool. I like where they've taken it that much.
Jimmyfenix
Member
this one!
Punished Snake VS Cypher
2015
Only on
PS3/PS4 & 360/X1
Reviews
IGN - Not enough Cypher 8.9 / 10
Nintendoga
Member
Can't wait for Phantom Pain to acknowledge PO as canon and piss off a bunch of fans.
#TeamNull
Plasma Snake
Banned
This part of the conversation that Snake has with Granin in MGS3 has me cracking up every time.
http://youtu.be/Gi5DdJpO6N8?t=4m15s
http://youtu.be/Gi5DdJpO6N8?t=4m15s
Check out my playlist here https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQXGtqa-bIanCEz_cKiHxAXgYkvHkg8YV to see some Ground Zeroes speed runs (#1 on Xbox One leaderboards). I will add a few more over the next week as I get time to play the game.
Nice, dude!
My fastest S-Rank stealth time is about 5:30...on normal lol. Haven't even tried to practice on hard yet.
Same here man, same here. I played the demo a hundred times over before I could finally purchase the game.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I love this. Snake is a doofus.
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