Obliterator
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Xbone sales are frankly terrible
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NPD Sales Results for May 2016
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Thanks for the last gen info.
Also, thanks for pointing out the difference in May 2014. Yep, that does make a big difference.
Yes. Yes they are.
I have never been on the bandwagon earlier this gen about the XB1 being a "failure" but after the downward trend this calendar year, I'm changing my tune.
We've long since established the status quo. PS4 does good-great, XB1 does okay-good, and 3DS does mediocre-okay depending on the releases and deals that month. For the consoles that's going to hold until a proper new product (which may or may not be Neo/Scorpio depending on a variety of factors) is released or Sony/MS does something stupid. That's the trend, and nothing is changing that in the short-term. Is there really that much of a difference if the PS4 sold 160K or 210K this month when it won't even be noticeable in final YTD? It's May. Lowish sales are expected, and anything above that is just a bonus.
Ok, but the numbers prove that you was wrong in not expect 200k+ sales, so maybe the surprise is making you think is impressive.
Despite expecting or not I really can't see 207k as a number remarkable for the market leader in a month with a big game.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Wait DOOM sold more on consoles than PC? WTF.
ethomaz
Banned
If you use Steam 600k it is pretty possible DOOM did more on consoles WW than PC.
Edit - Well Steam data is actual sales that makes it even more probably consoles sold more.
Obliterator
Member
Yeah I'm not sure it can be phrased any other way. The console by and large has been a disaster. We are looking at what 40 million or so LT? Such a shame as I adored the 360 but MS just made so many errors this time around
Stoffinator
Member
Just curious. But does NPD include sales in Canada too?
Primethius
Banned
What numbers prove me wrong? The aggregate?
Like, come on. That's a terrible metric to use.
I get it, you think it's expected. Congratulations!
Yet Xbox had deals and drops etc and sold badly, sign of the whole market?. It sold slightly better beating its rivals because of a big game, yet quantum break did the opposite wasn't Xbox down yoy the month the big Xbox game shipped?.
Consoles usually go down from April to May, so for PS4 to go up is impressive. However with a big launch of UC4, UC4 bundle, and trade-in deals at GameStop for those wanting the new UC4 console, the May increase, while impressive, is not unexpected.
Just looking at past numbers for the console on their own? Impressive.
Looking at the contributing factors in May for PS4? Not unexpected.
That about sum up things?
These numbers do not include Canada, but NPD Canada does track Canadian sales.
Just looking at past numbers for the console on their own? Impressive.
Looking at the contributing factors in May for PS4? Not unexpected.
That about sum up things?
These numbers do not include Canada, but NPD Canada does track Canadian sales.
Xbox One Slim will be out soon and the narrative will change completely in NPD threads, just wait and see.
CosmicQueso
Member
They do cover Canada, but it's a different feed and generally isn't talked about and the numbers are not included in what this thread discusses. What are you wondering about?
Obliterator
Member
May 2016 is the PS4s best May in its life cycle and it's up 13% YoY from an already fantastic 2015. That's really all that needs to be said
A year and half ago, I picked it would sell 40 to 50 million, which isn't that bad.
Now, depending on what Scorpio is, how it is considered (i.e. New console vs. upgraded XB1 so sales are attached to that), announcement date and release date, I wouldn't be surprised if XB1 doesn't hit 30 million. (assuming the earlier 21million number floated around is accurate)
EDIT: I will say I may be jumping the "negative" bandwagon, but really should hold a bit until the end of the year as MS really has trained consumers I think to wait until holiday deals to buy their console. XB1 is definitely going to sell significantly less than X360, but this year may turn around for them to at least stay flat from last year.
Please expand on your line of thought - I'm curious.
Stoffinator
Member
I was just wondering in general how games and hardware do up here. Never knew if the monthly info posted here included Canada. Thought it would of.
CosmicQueso
Member
Y'all aren't actually arguing over how to define "impressive" are you
Are you comparing Quantum Break with Uncharted 4?
Primethius
Banned
Okay. Is this confusing? Yes, my expectations were wrong. I thought there would be a small increase over last year (167k).
Do you not see why my expectations being wrong leads me to conclude that it's an impressive number?
Obliterator
Member
They are...
*giggles*
Yes because of the push that title got from ms and it was the last big game for the console.
wapplew
Member
Xbox one slim at $199 will do wonder!
I think 40m LTD is achievable if price is low enough.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Yeah it seems crazy doesn't it. A game born and bred from PC, LANs and PC online gaming early days hits a major return to form, is fully optimised for PC hardware and sells more with controllers and weaker performing consoles. Colour me surprised, truly.
Any journos/editors publishing articles about consoles dying out can bite my ass in the face of these stats.
CosmicQueso
Member
Haven't looked in a while. The currency thing was hurting last I looked. I'll see what guidance I can dig up.
Obliterator
Member
Whats crazy is we are talking about 40 million LT being "achievable" after the huge success that was the Xbox 360. Crazy and MS has no one to blame but themselves
Sales will go up, the console will start to have YoY increases and things will look better.
redblack85
Member
No Uncharted 4 numbers?
We haven't gotten NPD Canada data much in a while. Here's a thread from 2008, for example. Dalthien!
RichiRamjag
Member
Are you serious? I'm not being snarky, you just never know. What would the slim offer that would turn things around at this point? Are you implying that folks may just be holding off for a new revision?
This is my current opinion. I just got a refurb dirt cheap (which was essentially new and had a full warranty) with the idea of giving it to my son and grabbing the slim, but after thinking about it, I don't see the point unless it's a hardware upgrade.
Yes, I acctualy said that maybe this was the reason for you thinking that is impressive.
With the threat of Scorpio hitting within the year?. You really think a slim version of the console that isn't selling is going to change the whole situation for the console?. Now if you said Scorpio I might have agreed but the same box in slimmer form isn't going to be a game changer.
Square2015
Member
Oh Lord. QB it's nothing compared to a fourth* installment from a big budget ip for a bigger crowd.
* counting only the main games.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I SAW SOMEONE MENTION AQUA'S NAME!!!! WHERE SHE AT? IS SHE BACK ON GAF?
So, you are comparing a popular franchise with a new IP from Microsoft... OK.
CosmicQueso
Member
Thank you square! Nice to see in context.
I SAW SOMEONE MENTION AQUA'S NAME!!!! WHERE SHE AT?
She's gone to the Dark Side.
Turns out they really did have cookies! (Someone mentioned the forum she's posting at earlier.)
Primethius
Banned
Right, and I'm not sure why your expectations should be the one to drive conclusions.
But as I already said, let's agree to disagree.
wapplew
Member
More powerful and cheaper, rumor GPU upgrade to 2TF and 4K Bluray/output support.
If that thing price at $249 or lower, it will fly off shelf.
Plus best line up in Xbox history that rival last year with Gears 4, Forza horizon 3, Recore, Halo wars 2 and more, I mean, Halo, Gears and Forza in the same holiday! I think it will be the best holiday for Xbox one.
FootballFan
Member
amazing numbers from the PS4, uncharted did really well too.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
SEARCHIING!
EDIT: OMG gamrconnect forums, I shall meet her again. To the dark side, I go.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Yep, it's more or less kinda official now that classic life-cycle history (peak of sales somewhen in the middle) doesn't apply for XBOX One. MS sees their platform declining, while their competitor is still on track (even pre-PSVR!). I suppose that's why MS is in alert mode right now.
Link? Haven't heard about the bolded
RichiRamjag
Member
I agree that it would and I'd love it, but I think we're both dreaming here.
Your posts always crack me up. You say what I want to hear, but deep within, I always know it's too good to be true. Can't wait for Monday though!
Square2015
Member
pharmboy044
Member
So I guess no cream this month too?
Also, is Aqua providing software numbers or is she allowed to just give hardware numbers?
Also, is Aqua providing software numbers or is she allowed to just give hardware numbers?