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NPD Sales Results for May 2016
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Thebeardofknowledge
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VanCityGamer
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It seems hard to say that exclusives don't sell systems when PS4 beat XB1 by 100K this month.
Cold Lager
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Another month where Xbox is in double digits decline, Scorpio might be too late to save the brand if this continues.
ethomaz
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That impressive for PS4.
DriftingSpirit
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I think that gap speaks more to how poorly the X1 is doing more than anything else. I do think UC4 obviously helped buffer the gap though.
crab rangoon
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$50 cheaper + generous trade in offers + its single biggest exclusive IP release to date yielded around a 50k boost. I dunno...it looks nice when you just use percentages but the actual number seems like a rather weak 'boost' to me. Especially with X1 not picking up any slack as PS4's competition.
Unless I totally screwed up my math, the PS4 is up YoY by 13% currently?
50K boost over last year in the slowest month of the year is not a good boost? Okay, then...
Welfare
Member
Updated with % differences.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Nice growth for PS4.
Hehe, I knew I didn't flunk my math classes.
yay numbers.
So what should we be expecting for Wii U then?
I mean, the 800k shipment divided by 12 months comes up to 66k per month.
For the whole world.
Or....are we supposed to expect more then 66k a month ww becuause of old unsold stock?
So what should we be expecting for Wii U then?
I mean, the 800k shipment divided by 12 months comes up to 66k per month.
For the whole world.
Or....are we supposed to expect more then 66k a month ww becuause of old unsold stock?
Welfare
Member
Yeah, it is weird. It did 2-4k in February to April, so to jump to 11k probably means Sony sent more PS3's?
Or people bought a PS3 to play Uncharted 4 only to realize it's only on PS4?
Primethius
Banned
207k PS4? Surprisingly close to the aggregate then I think anyone was expecting.
Shambalakan
Member
Wow it was 3,4 years ago?!
Is this because of Cell's price? maybe it was too expensive and Sony can't get profit from low price PS3s.
Seems pricecuts do the exact opposite for Sony and MS during the off season.
Sony drops the price at the beginning of the holidays. Reaps the benefits, then come January raises it again. No consequences. They actually see bolstered sales.
MS tries the same thing. Only sales flatline in this case.
I think the key difference is Sony supplying steady exclusive content in the first half of the year combined with their eye for attractive bundles.
Sony drops the price at the beginning of the holidays. Reaps the benefits, then come January raises it again. No consequences. They actually see bolstered sales.
MS tries the same thing. Only sales flatline in this case.
I think the key difference is Sony supplying steady exclusive content in the first half of the year combined with their eye for attractive bundles.
Welfare
Member
^Sony never raised the price
Code:
Xbox One 107,100
MoM drop = 36%
YoY drop = 23%
Weekly average
Xbox One April: 167,600 / 4 = 41,900
Xbox One May: 107,100 / 4 = 26,775
Drop = 36%
Code:
PS4 207,300
MoM rise = 19%
YoY rise = 36%
Weekly average
PS4 April: 174,800 / 4 = 43,700
PS4 May: 207,300 / 4 = 51,825
Rise = 36%
Code:
Wii U 25,300
MoM drop = 22%
YoY drop = 41%
Weekly average
Wii U April: 32,300 / 4 = 8,075
Wii U April: 25,300 / 4 = 6,325
Drop = 41%The ps4 is straight up more valuable in the eyes of a regular customer. That is why it's been able to outsell the X1 even though it's had a few temp price cuts a few times.
crab rangoon
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No, to be perfectly frank. It's not much of a boost at all in terms of units (which is what matters, obviously). This seems like pretty stark ammo for the 'exclusives don't sell hardware' crowd.
Welfare
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360 February - May (January missing for 2016)
2015: 168k
2016: 83k (-51%)
PS3 February - May (January missing for 2016)
2015: 166k
2016: 21k (-87%)
Sure, while all other hardware are down, and the PS4 is the only one up significantly, this is bad. All right, run along.
Edit: Oh, that join date. To be expected this time of the year, I suppose.
Welfare
Member
It's very good for May. May is the slowest month in the year and the PS4 was able to outperform April.
Very good results.
Thebeardofknowledge
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from aqua
crab rangoon
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Is PS4 really 'up significantly'? 50k doesn't seem like a significant boost given that it had everything going for it. I'd be surprised if Uncharted had any effect at all on hardware sales. No need to get passive aggressive, btw. It's unbecoming.
ethomaz
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35.8% is 'up significantly'.Is PS4 really 'up significantly'? 50k doesn't seem like a significant boost given that it had everything going for it. I'd be surprised if Uncharted had any effect at all on hardware sales. No need to get passive aggressive, btw. It's unbecoming.
Cheers dude - kinda meant for the corresponding year but think I know the trend anyway...
So Edson how did those retailer insights help you? EDIT: Oops sorry mistook you for someone else - sorry, ignore me...
ps3ud0 8)
GHG
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It's about ensuring there is a steady flow of exclusive content across the year. That way there can be a new bundle pretty much every month and new advertisements. It keeps things fresh in the consumer space.
Microsoft have lost the plot this gen. They are doing the opposite of what they did last gen and it shows in the results.
Nah, bruh, we can't use percentages because it makes the boost look good!
I swear, the E3 season is somewhat the best and worst time on GAF.
Is PS4 really 'up significantly'? 50k doesn't seem like a significant boost given that it had everything going for it. I'd be surprised if Uncharted had any effect at all on hardware sales. No need to get passive aggressive, btw. It's unbecoming.
It's all relative if ps4 only had a 50k increase during a holiday month it would be not very good.
crab rangoon
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I don't think you understood what my post said. I'm not commenting on the volume of sales typical of console hardware in May. I'm commenting on the meager boost to PS4 hardware compared to last year's baseline in terms of units. The low baseline sales only serve to embellish how much of a boost there was. If there was nothing going or it, I'd agree the boost was solid. But it had the backing of an INCREDIBLY generous trade in offer, on top of being significantly cheaper and having its single biggest, most hype fueled exclusive release to date plus very little competition from X1 this month.
prwxv3,
Are you suggesting factors like pricing, trade in offer and major exclusives are multiplicative factors for sales boosts instead of additive?
DustyVonEric
Member
Damn. If PS4 is doubling up on Xbox One in NPD, worldwide must be whew...
I guess MS needs to hang in there until Scorpio, but Neo's head start and PS' worldwide presence will probably cancel that out anyways. PC supposedly isn't going as planned with everyone choosing Steam.
Don't really know what moves MS can make to recapture market and mindshare. It will be fascinating to watch though.
I guess MS needs to hang in there until Scorpio, but Neo's head start and PS' worldwide presence will probably cancel that out anyways. PC supposedly isn't going as planned with everyone choosing Steam.
Don't really know what moves MS can make to recapture market and mindshare. It will be fascinating to watch though.
Sangetsu-II
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Valkyria Chronicles: R? At least I wish.
Unfortunately, the mass market doesn't see it your way.
Also, you heard it in this thread, guys, the PS4 was supposed to get a 200K boost to be considered decent.
Primethius
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It was up 35%. That's actually the most significant boost this year over last so far.
And a 50k boost in May is impressive.
Thebeardofknowledge
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detecting rising levels of sodium
not quite a meltdown yet but lets see where this goes...
No games in the top 10, and still third in software overall. Nintendo's backlog continues to be their saving grace.
With Uncharted is not impressive, just expected.
Honestly, somehow I have a strange feeling he will be singing it in a different tune if the XB1 won.
To be fair, many of us were thinking Uncharted 4 (or any exclusive for the matter) wouldn't move much hardware. In any case, I think we can agree it was a "good" boost.
Welfare
Member
You know, I was 50/50 on which one you meant.
3rd year YTD comparisons
(2008) 360: 1.112m
(2016) XB1: 896k (-20%)
(2009) PS3: 955k
(2016) PS4: 1.347m (+41%)
3rd year LTD
(05-08) 360: 10,242,100
(13-16) XB1: ~12,000,000 (+17%)
(06-09) PS3: 7,745,400
(13-16) PS4: ~13,700,000 (+77%)
crab rangoon
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If that logic were the basis of such conclusions media create threads would host the most dynamic, exciting back and forth sales discussions the internet had ever seen. There you see wild percentage swings routinely across a variety of platforms thanks to the tiny volumes. If the question to be addressed is 'how many new users bought PS4 due to this set of favorable conditions?' then the answer is apparently not very many.
Are you guys suggesting 'boosts' should be evaluated exclusively in percentages, even though that methodology does nothing to actually measure the data the question demands?! o.0