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[Opus Angelorum]

One thing is for sure, any third party developer that is currently working on an unannounced PS3 exclusive will be having a long hard think over the holiday period.

 

[Sysgen]

No, the Xbox 360 was $399 in November last year.

and $299. $100 less.

 

[GhaleonEB]

So I guess after the holidays we expect the monthly hardware sales to still be roughly what they have been this year?

I expect them to trend up. PS3 and 360 will be higher due to lower price/games, Wii DS demand will spill over a bit.

 

[Dante]

Casuals no longer see MGS as a OMG HAVE TO BUY it game. Especially by the time it comes out. Kojima himself was disappointed with MGS3 sales and it was easily the best in the series.

MGS4 will NOT somehow "save" PS3 or even sell a shitload of systems. You're nuts if you think that.

Nobody said anything about saving it. Losing MGS4 was HUGE blow to PS3's Holiday lineup. They ran a poll on 1up that asked which game would get you to spring for a PS3 and it was almost unanimously MGS4. Again I am not saying it's going to "save" it, but It's exactly the type of game they need, and the sooner the better.

 

[chris0701]

360 2006,USD 399 =>510K
PS3 2007,USD 399 =>466K

 

[Y2Kev]

FREE GUERRILLA
FREE KOJIMA
FREEEEEEE NAUGHTTYYY DOGGGG

BTW there is no way they make Jak 4. Little furry mascots having a tough time on PS3.

 

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

Here come the spinsters... :lol

PlayStation by the Numbers

November 2007

The PlayStation® platform is off to a great start this holiday season based on NPD November 2007 sales data:

Hardware Momentum (PS3, PS2 and PSP)

**For the month of November, PlayStation hardware unit sales reached more than 1.5 million units, an increase of 160% when compared to last month's unit sales (October 2007).

**PlayStation total hardware revenue was $373 million in November, sales dollars increased by 170% compared to last month's sales.

**For the month of November, PlayStation console sales reached 962K units.

**466K PLAYSTATION®3 (PS3™) hardware units were sold in November, a 285% increase over the previous month's sales. PS3 had the biggest October to November sales increase of any hardware platform.

**PlayStation®2 (PS2) also experienced great momentum in November, hardware unit sales reached 496K, a 170% increase over last month's sales. Since its release in North America on Oct. 26, 2000, more than 120 million hardware units and more than a billion units of PlayStation 2 software have sold worldwide, making it the best-selling gaming platform ever released.

**According to the latest Nielsen data (April – November 2007), PS2 is the most played videogame console averaging 42.2% usage minutes compared to 11.8% for Xbox 360 and 5.5% for Wii.

**PSP® (PlayStation®Portable) continues to experience strong sales momentum with new pricing and the availability of new entertainment packs. In November, 567K PSP hardware units were sold, nearly a 100% increase over last month sales.

Software Momentum (PS3, PS2 and PSP)

**PlayStation total software revenue in November was $414 million, sales dollars increased by 128% compared to last month's sales.

**In November, retail dollars from PS3 sales totaled $138 million, a 192% increase over last month's sales.

**PlayStation had three software titles in the top ten list across all consoles: Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock for PS2 sold 966K units, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare for PS3 sold 444K units and Assassin’s Creed for PS3 sold 377K units.

PLAYSTATION®Network Momentum

**Just one year after launch, there are more than 3 million registered PLAYSTATION Network users worldwide who have downloaded more than 60 million pieces of content.

**In North America alone there are more than 1.8 million registered users who have downloaded more than 34.5 million pieces of content.

**A recent PLAYSTATION Network price promotion for Calling all Cars™, Everyday Shooter™, flOw™ and Pixel Junk Racers™ resulted in a combined 920% increase in total downloads.

The bolded one is ARROGANT AS HELL. WORSE then....no, better I shut up.

Wii: 981k
PS2 + PS3: 962k

Nintendo family: 2.511.000
Everything else: 2.299.000

:lol

.

 

[mood]

I just realized the 360s september numbers were better than PS3 November numbers...

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Take it a step further. Dead Rising, a new IP, sold around 500-600k in its first month of release (August 06). At that time, the 360 was hovering around PS3's current userbase.

A low userbase doesn't automatically equate bomba numbers.

This is EXACTLY my point.

 

[Duke Togo]

So this is where the fanboys hide. :lol I'm enjoying the blanket statements about PS3 owners, I can only imagine the cleanup that will be required after this one.

 

[Cheebs]

*shitty image choices*

Fixed:

PlayStation 3 466K

PlayStation 2 496K

PSP 567K

Xbox 360 770K

Wii 981K

Nintendo DS 1.53 million

 

[AirBrian]

**According to the latest Nielsen data (April – November 2007), PS2 is the most played videogame console averaging 42.2% usage minutes compared to 11.8% for Xbox 360 and 5.5% for Wii.

Where's the average usage minutes for the PS3? ;-)

 

[reilo]

No, the Xbox 360 was $399 in November last year.

$399-$299 = $100?

Perception is reality.

 

[Vyse The Legend]

What was the Crysis number?

Crysis: 86,633

 

[chespace]

It's scary to think how different all this would be looking right now if they'd just got the pricepoint right at launch instead of squandering an entire year.

That would lead to a whole chain of different decision points in the past, including fundamentals like Blu-Ray. So yeah, scary how different the PS3 itself would have been had it come out at a different price point.

 

[solid2snake]

i hope this means naughty dog making jak 4

isn't Jak 4 confirmed by naughty?

 

[GhaleonEB]

and $299. $100 less.

We got a data point in one of those months, the Core was driving ~10% of 360 sales.

 

[Mojovonio]

Crysis: 86,633

HOW

Do people not know they probably can't even fucking run the game?

 

[Booda]

Same here. I mean, come on, no one expected it to do massive numbers, or even do as well as the 360, but it's still pretty decent considering, hardly been left out to dry anyway.

After a $100 price drop, a huge ad campaign and some triple-A games coming out, Sony needed the PS3 to do more than maintain the status quo relative to its competitors. They need to cut into Microsoft's lead. Hard to see how they made any progress on that front this month.

 

[davepoobond]

A recent PLAYSTATION Network price promotion for Calling all Cars™, Everyday Shooter™, flOw™ and Pixel Junk Racers™ resulted in a combined 920% increase in total downloads.

COMBINED PERCENTAGE INCREASE!!! LOL

 

[Firestorm]

LCT isn't counted separately.

Wii Play = Game + free accessory
Wii Zapper = Accessory + free game

It really should be the other way around for both =/

 

[ZeoVGM]

**According to the latest Nielsen data (April – November 2007), PS2 is the most played videogame console averaging 42.2% usage minutes compared to 11.8% for Xbox 360 and 5.5% for Wii.

:lol

Wow.

 

[hooijdonk17]

No LTD charts yet? You disappoint me GAF..

 

[FF_VIII]

Btw, what where the 360 GH3 numbers?

 

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

Fixed:

PlayStation 3 466K

PlayStation 2 496K

PSP 567K

Xbox 360 770K

Wii 981K

Nintendo DS 1.53 million

This one is definitely better.

 

[Evenball]

PS3 owners buy nothing and 360 owners buy everything. Wii owners just buy hardware.

And games that include hardware. (except boogie)

 

[Future PhaZe]

If anything is going to "save" the PS3 it will be Killzone 2. Yes, irrespective of quality. All other first party games are doomed to bomb because hey, PS3 owners LOL. Fuck you, PS3 owners.

For some reason i'm more inclined to think FFXIII is the true savior of the Ps3, but since thats not coming until like...fall 2009 hope might be lost by then.

 

[LJ11]

FREE GUERRILLA
FREE KOJIMA
FREEEEEEE NAUGHTTYYY DOGGGG

BTW there is no way they make Jak 4. Little furry mascots having a tough time on PS3.

Just imagine Ueda's next.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Fixed:

PlayStation 3 466K

PlayStation 2 496K

PSP 567K

Xbox 360 770K

Wii 981K

Nintendo DS 1.53 million

THAT'S what I was waiting for!

:lol :lol :lol

 

[Opus Angelorum]

**According to the latest Nielsen data (April – November 2007), PS2 is the most played videogame console averaging 42.2% usage minutes compared to 11.8% for Xbox 360 and 5.5% for Wii.

And the PS3 Sony?

The omission says a lot...

 

[Y2Kev]

Just imagine Ueda's next.

Not Uedaaaaaaaaaa

 

[Jokeropia]

The Wii hardware sales are really nice now, but I'm starting to wonder if the Wii will ever catch the X360 overall in the USA. I think we will have a nice battle brewing. Especially after the X360 gets another price cut in the spring to coincide with the release of GTA4.

You don't know what the Wii can sell and would've sold this month had it not been supply constrained.

Software wise X360 has already cemented itself as the king this generation.

In the US? Possibly, but it will get an increasingly hard time keeping up once the Wii installed base pulls ahead by significant numbers. (Which should happen soon worldwide even if it takes a while in the US.)

 

[Kosma]

I'm actually not worried about MGS4 sales, I think that will do just fine. If there is one thing we have learned this gen is what kind of games sell on these HD platforms.

Viva Pinata, Kameo, R&C, Uncharted = No
COD4, AC, Resistance, Gears = Yes

MGS4 really falls into that second category I think.

But if Uncharted and R&C are performing as they are, where's the motivation to continue with stellar exclusives? What's something like Infamous going to do? These games aren't cheap to make, that's all I'm saying.

Well Sony has to have these teams doing something right?

 

[Arde5643]

Fixed:

PlayStation 3 466K

PlayStation 2 496K

PSP 567K

Xbox 360 770K

Wii 981K

Nintendo DS 1.53 million

You the man, Cheebs!

Now it's not so weird anymore - the previous one was like a bizarro version. :lol

 

[CajoleJuice]

PD owned at his own goddamn tired schtick.

 

[Future PhaZe]

Crysis: 86,633

So uh...is that good? I swear they must have put millllllllllions into making that game.

 

[davepoobond]

And the PS3 Sony?

The omission says a lot...

they should have just said "Playstation consoles" and added in the number

 

[jj984jj]

One thing is for sure, any third party developer that is currently working on an unannounced PS3 exclusive will be having a long hard think over the holiday period.

Exactly, there's no reason whatsoever for 3rd parties to make any game released next year PS3 exclusive, there will probably be about 5 at max. What these sales should mean is more exclusives for the 360, hopefully it turns out that way.

 

[jetjevons]

:-( at Uncharted and R&C.

Sony are in a pickle that's for sure. The price is there, the software is there but the masses just aren't biting.

I used to believe there were millions of casual Sony-loyal PS2 owners waiting to upgrade to PS3 when the price was right but I'm just not so sure anymore. I think all the negative press has really hurt the public (mainstream gamer) perception of the PS3. PS3 isn't the "cool" system like PS2 was. It hasn't had any "social event" games on the scale of Gears or Halo 3. If my anecdotal experience is anything to go by, the constant negativity has really pushed the notion among the lesser informed that the PS3 is an overpriced failure.

I worry that when the real system sellers starting hitting en masse it will just be too little, to late, you know?

Of course I will be ecstatic if I turn out to be wrong.

 

[NeoUltima]

Holy shit at all the Ps3 trolling....Is it like this every month? Jesus, it sold higher than GAF and the so-called "analysts" predicted. Not to mention, its software sales are in line with the 360s when you take userbase into consideration.

 

[MassiveAttack]

So uh...is that good? I swear they must have put millllllllllions into making that game.

It's abysmal.

 

[shintoki]

Poor PS3 in general, Same price as 360 was last year. Except allot more value in the system. Even with momentuam of two prices drops also. Couldn't break that 500k mark. And the software sales, surprisingly good in some cases to make up 33% of the 360's in both Assassin's Creed and COD4. At the sametime underwhelming for Assassin's Creed with the PS3 exculsive marketing campaign for it. Not to mention thier first party entries falling for the most part.

Wii. Not much to say here, Impressive for the first month on both software and hardware side. Normally the software lacks. But this time it was on!!!

360. good hardware sales but fantastic software. Nice jump over last's year and only recieved a 50$dollar price drop and 20$. Leaves a good opening to price drop next year when they need it. Software...fantastic. This is what is going make developers keep those games on that system, pitch a few exculsives, and even steal some from PS3. When you are selling 3x more then PS3 for stuff like COD4 and AC, then 5x as much for Rock Band. It shall reward.

 

[Vyse The Legend]

Fixed:



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Wow, you turned a shitty joke into a hilarious one. Bravo. :lol

 

[Mojovonio]

Holy shit at all the Ps3 trolling....Is it like this every month? Jesus, it sold higher than GAF and the so-called "analysts" predicted. Not to mention, its software sales are in line with the 360s when you take userbase into consideration.

AA is mad at you for not buying Uncharted.

 

[GhaleonEB]

So uh...is that good? I swear they must have put millllllllllions into making that game.

Yeah. Crysis and UT3 BOTH bombed. WTF @ the PC shooter market.

 

[PhoenixDark]

PD owned at his own goddamn tired schtick.

No one got mine

e tu Jacob :/

 

[Arde5643]

Holy shit at all the Ps3 trolling....Is it like this every month? Jesus, it sold higher than GAF and the so-called "analysts" predicted. Not to mention, its software sales are in line with the 360s when you take userbase into consideration.

Well, it's finally reaching Gamecube levels, so yeah, I guess it's as good as the gamecube then. :lol

 

[FrankT]

Unreal Tournament 3 (PC) - 34k


holy shit

Oh god, someone please save Little BIg Planet

MGS4....yeah I'm not going to comment....

lmao :lol

 

[chespace]

Well Sony has to have these teams doing something right?

That's not really a healthy way to run a business.

 

[TheRipDizz]

BB, the reason hardware matters is because they lead to those software numbers, right there.

Top 10 PS3 software / Top 10 360 Software = 24%
PS3 installed base / 360 installed base = 31%

Software is by and large a function of hardware.

To an large extent, yeah. You are underplaying the 360's fervered pace though. The PS2 never had software numbers matching its installedbase ratio, nevermind surpassing it. As the installed base grows, the more likely it is that there are a bunch of gamers that will just not buy software on a consistant basis. This has yet to happen to the 360 and has even grown to some extent. It deffinatly is not guarenteed to happen to the PS3 and the Wii as their installed base grows to match the 360's. In fact if history is anything to go by, they probably won't