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NPD Sales Results for November 2013 [Up3: Zelda, Pokemon, Mario, 3DS, Wii U]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Was just thinking this, Desperate Nintendo is the best Nintendo. These rough sales won't kill Nintendo I think. But I do hope it kicks them in the ass and wakes them up and makes them realize that what they are doing isn't enough.
Honestly the end segment of the Final Bosman this week seems to be pretty damn accurate when it comes to Nintendo and what goes through their brains.
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/ey6k9g/the-final-bosman-vgx-takeaways
Starts at around 11:20
MS lost to Sony in its own territory, selling less consoles for the month than Sony did in 24 hrs. Keep in mind the utter domination MS had on them last year. Add in the fact the the XB1 is WAY behind in every other territory, things don't look good.
As far as the rest is concerned, you have the loss of marketshare with the XB1, the Surface is amazingly bad, and the Windows phone isn't performing well either. Pressure to sell them all off will increase exponentially after the Holidays
equippedwithtowel
Member
Panic mode doesn't have to work to exist, and I'm sure they're panicking
Mithos
Member
And who is going to make those games you like on this Powerful Nintendo console of the future, because 3rd parties sure the hell wont, not on a Nintendo console.
what about that one time where Nintendo had to go to senate
Ain't that the best possible thing to happen?
Nah Wii U started with average sales. Let's not forget that for example in UK PS4 and Xbox One outsold Wii U LTD in a matter of days.
What exactly could save Vita? The only one I can think of is Monster Hunter, even then that will only sell big numbers in Japan.
zeopower6
Member
They probably need to go back to the "Nintendo system" naming scheme.
No idea, really. I'm remaining hopeful because other than maybe Tearaway and a small handful of other games, there really is no reason for most Westerners to get a Vita. (well, if they import they are fine)
Buddha Beam
Banned
I think Nintendo's best move at this point is to re-enact the third pillar strategy by 2015 like they did with the DS back in 2004. Let that hopefully be at least enough of a success to ride out the next 5 years or so... and then focus on being more of a consumer entertainment and devices-like company with a specialty in games. Phones and tablets and other smart-devices.
That and they should really start leveraging their better known IPs as movies and TV shows... maybe even a theme park.
They really, truly do need a longterm, fundamental change of direction though.
That and they should really start leveraging their better known IPs as movies and TV shows... maybe even a theme park.
They really, truly do need a longterm, fundamental change of direction though.
"Please undersell."
The perfect Dark
Banned
Yeah. Just give me Wave Race U and F-Zero U and I'll be happy.
Who keeps pulling this guy's string?
Castef
Banned
Also because... what new console?
Again, creating a powerful console a-la Gamecube?
cpp_is_king
Member
Sirens aren't even going off over there in the face of an utterly catastrophic failure from their flagship home console. I certainly wouldn't expect any alarms to be going off over the 3DS performance either.
That's pretty sad....., just saying.
See my last post, he's just some fanboy who doesn't actually care about the numbers.
Fox Mulder
Member
sure, will be interesting to see what 5+ years of irrelevance does to their brand. The Wii died well before the wiiu launched, and now they'll have to cling to a shitty product for 4-5 years because the handful of customers that bought one would get mad.
I love Nintendo, but they deserve this.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
I doubt Sony will make the PS5 a streaming box. I believe PS5 will still have disk based games, since a huge portion of Playstation mindshare resides in developing countries. XB2 will probably be a streambox tho. They'll push hard for digital in the coming years.
Also, Nintendo is definitely not bowing out of home consoles until another failure of this magnitude. They can weather this storm. Not sure if Iwata can tho, tbh.
I'm not sure how they can battle the handheld problem. Mobiles arent just going to back off anytime soon. It saddens me more there as most of the games I end up playing are handheld titles.
Hybrid.
Portable with balls that can send it's signal to a TV via HDMI. That's the path for Nitnendo.
Basically a powerful DS that can then use the TV as a third screen, or broadcast what's on the main screen of the portable. It allows Nitnendo to focus on ONE platform and gives the devs the oppotunity to either make handheld focused OR home focused games for a platform with a healthy userbase.
Sakura
Member
Such as? It's already had P4G, Killzone, Uncharted, AC, Soul Sacrifice, God Eater, etc What other high profile titles are in the waiting? If anything Nintendo has released far fewer high profile titles for Wii U...
Boss Man
Member
I honestly expected them to start ramping up development and I'm pretty surprised how out-of-touch they seem.
For instance, why have they never made a legitimate Pokemon RPG on a home console?
How did that VGX Cranky disaster happen? Did they really think that was worth more?
TheRealTalker
Banned
came back and saw the Wii U numbers
man lower then 300k amount..... now we know why they chose such a low letter in the alphabet
Edit: We need to know the PS4 numbers Sony.... come on do it... DOOOO IT
man lower then 300k amount..... now we know why they chose such a low letter in the alphabet
jk jk don't kill me
Nothing1016
Member
I've always wondered this, but maybe the market just doesn't want a Nintendo home console. Each Nintendo home console has lost a significant portion of past users. We consistently see a gen by gen decline no matter how great the games are from Nintendo and their third party exclusives. The Wii was an outlier it seems when it struck a huge cord with casuals. People seem content with just having a Nintendo handheld for their fix. Nintendo most likely needs a fundamental change in perception if they want to succeed.
PS. I have owned every Nintendo home console and adore their first party content. It just seems like the market is rejecting them.
PS. I have owned every Nintendo home console and adore their first party content. It just seems like the market is rejecting them.
If they really do this GameCube "hold on" bullshit, I'd laugh. But they've already set precedent by turning 3DS around. They have expectations now.
Manmademan
Member
no way that happens.
the vast majority of that 3.91 (?) million they''ve sold so far was within the first couple months of launch. they're around 1 million WW TOTAL this year.
at this rate, assuming sales don't go down (which is a BAD assumption) it will take 5 solid years of sales to hit 10 million. They're not going to be on shelves that long.
The WiiU is going to end up doing somewhere between the 3D0 and the Saturn, and go down as one of the worst consoles of all time.
3DS is decent, it should at least be able to maintain it's current trajectory of games, which is all that matter to me with the system. I already have more games on it I enjoy than the DS and I loved that system. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like it will reach close to the highs of the GBA and DS if the 2DS redesign didn't really give it a bigger shot in the arm.
Wii U is undeniably disappointing. If I'm not mistaken, this is the biggest uptick in a month for the system since last year, but that's not saying much. Mario 3D World sales are probably more disappointing to me especially since no other Wii U software reports were included in the press release. That likely means even if momentum continues to pick up some next month for the system, 3rd party support will drop off more.
Looks like the system will be mostly indie games and 1st party games for the bulk of next year. Looks like I'm probably jumping in with a PS4 a little sooner than I anticipated, but still waiting til more games come out for it.
Probably will stay away from NeoGAF for a few months now. The schadenfreude over the Wii U has been intolerable for the past year but it's going to get deafening now.
Wii U is undeniably disappointing. If I'm not mistaken, this is the biggest uptick in a month for the system since last year, but that's not saying much. Mario 3D World sales are probably more disappointing to me especially since no other Wii U software reports were included in the press release. That likely means even if momentum continues to pick up some next month for the system, 3rd party support will drop off more.
Looks like the system will be mostly indie games and 1st party games for the bulk of next year. Looks like I'm probably jumping in with a PS4 a little sooner than I anticipated, but still waiting til more games come out for it.
Probably will stay away from NeoGAF for a few months now. The schadenfreude over the Wii U has been intolerable for the past year but it's going to get deafening now.
And if it did, it wouldn't be pretty. They'd double down on safe games. Release games fast to fill gaps. Stop taking risks and expanding. Stop offering great features to loyal fans and focus on the biggest audience.
Interested in everything but without creamsugar there is only the Wii U to comment on.
This post shows deep knowledge. So, how long do you think it will take them to "draw" a new device?
davonaytor
Member
God damn. Rough sales for Nintendo, and an incredibly shitty top 10 software list.
I'm starting to think Nintendo may actually need to ditch the game pad in time for Mario Kart and Smash so they can drop the price of the console to a point where people would be ok with buying it for 2 or 3 games.
I'm starting to think Nintendo may actually need to ditch the game pad in time for Mario Kart and Smash so they can drop the price of the console to a point where people would be ok with buying it for 2 or 3 games.
theprodigy
Member
I uh....you coming from 2012 or something?
it's been dead since the beginning of the year
prag16
Banned
That's true. How many could they have really shipped if they couldn't keep amazon stocked...
It would be Nintendo's job to make a device they want to develop for at least at launch to test the waters or give them some sort of incentive.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
They're asking iOS games. I don't think they'll get that, but if people expects Nintendo riding on a console with worse GC numbers and a declining handheld market for the next years and doing nothing...well, I really doubt.
Wii U is dead in EU. They never had any support there.
Wii U is dead in NA. No amount of Marios, Smash and Karts can save it.
Wii U is dead in JP. No amounts of DQX expansion packs can save it.
Vita on the other hand still has potential in Japan and the rest of the world (as a glorified PS4 controller)
Vita will probably top 10 million while the WiiU won't.