DeepSpace5D
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Wow…I Guess Sony heard that DLC can be nominated for GotY and decided to lock up the award in case Astrobot doesn’t get the nod.
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[Reuters] Exclusive-Sony in talks to buy media powerhouse behind 'Elden Ring', sources say
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Euler007
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And that's a great thing. I hope PCMR gets a chance to play DeS and BB remastered.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Why didn't Dark Souls blow up the same way? They were on PC as well.
Games can also "blow up" without a PC release. Otherwise console exclusives wouldn't sell over 20M copies like they do.
Also, having exclusive content is already a given it won't sell as much as it could sell as multiplatform games. Nintendo games would also "blow up" even more if they were available everywhere yet Nintendo isn't doing that.
It's about valuing your brand, moving hardware and subscriptions. Content is king.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Sony already owned anime distribution outside of Japan with Crnchyroll, funimation and aniplex. If this acquisition goes ahead they will literally have big manga and anime IPs with them as well.
Bry0
Member
That’s so exciting, I can’t wait for a re-imagining of the souls games as I travel to light the fires with my young estranged nephew knight, as he comes of age while my main character struggles with being a masculine father figure while also being a gay hollow in a straight hollow’s world.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Because they got it before fucking Microsoft and tencent.
And this move ensures games will still release on ps
nial
Member
Aniplex was actually established by Sony, originally by the Japanese branch of Sony Pictures as SPE Music Publishing, before SMEJ became involved.
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Antwix
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Why would From give a shit about Demons Souls anymore? They made Dark Souls as a successor.
Zacfoldor
Member
Damn, this is moving fast. Are we live?
Anyway, lol, do yall remember the thread where we discussed why Sony didn't care about Bloodborne.
I said it had no future because From was too big for exclusive spinoffs and Sony can't make a From level soulslike so there was no path to really anything with the IP besides may be a remaster and perhaps a fast half hearted sequel.
Sony definitely knows this, they are just exploring the possibility of a larger investment that would make Bloodborne as an IP, have a future.
Very few exclusives would make me buy a console, but Bloodborne remake, 2, 3, or 4 would. It really is one of the few companies left that can really move the needle.
Anyway, lol, do yall remember the thread where we discussed why Sony didn't care about Bloodborne.
I said it had no future because From was too big for exclusive spinoffs and Sony can't make a From level soulslike so there was no path to really anything with the IP besides may be a remaster and perhaps a fast half hearted sequel.
Sony definitely knows this, they are just exploring the possibility of a larger investment that would make Bloodborne as an IP, have a future.
Very few exclusives would make me buy a console, but Bloodborne remake, 2, 3, or 4 would. It really is one of the few companies left that can really move the needle.
I didn't say it was the only reason, I said it was a huge reason which it absolutely was. Nintendo and Playstation have two completely different business models, comparing them is as silly as people who think Xbox's business decisions should be reflective of how Playstation operates.
Hrk69
Member
You are missing the fact that quality sells. Your platform excuse is as weak as it gets. If you think it was just about PC exposure, you’re delusional. Quality content drives sales, and Elden Ring offered a game-changing experience
FromSoftware managed to expand their audience beyond just the Souls fans with a mainstream appeal. PC was just the icing on the cake
Zacfoldor
Member
That's like saying "Why would I give a shit about my old child anymore, I had a new one."
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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C'mon now. They would release on Sony platforms regardless since the PS market share is too big to be ignored especially when it comes to FromSoft titles.
They would sell nearly as well as exclusives while also driving more ps5 sales. Which would ultimately make them far more money.
Dark Souls is a Bandai Namco IP. It was made because Demon's Souls was owned by Sony. If Sony buys From the IP used would be Demon's Souls for souls games.
If you think it wasn't a huge factor, then you're the delusional one. Quality selling via platform exclusivity is the difference between Bloodborne selling several million and multiplat Elden ring selling over 25 million in a fraction of the time.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
That could be a huge deal for their storefront. Make Bloodborne Remastered, Demon's Souls Remake, and the Elden Ring their store exclusives. A lot of players would flock to them if in addition, there is trophy integration, cross-save support, and of course, the rest of the catalogue released thus far on PC.
I do believe that if Sony goes all-in with a PC storefront, they will have to make their PC strategy clearer and more consistent, ie: PC releases 6 months to a year after the PS release except for GAAS.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Japan would not approve either one, especially Tencent.
splattered
Member
Im gonna laugh if FromSoftware gets spun out as an independent studio as part of the deal and Sony only buys this for the Anime.
BB was close to 8 million sales as of 2022. That was not far from the multiplatform dark souls 3 and was more than sekiro.
ER selling 25 million does not depend on PC any more than breath of the wild does. That is Froms quality track record and making the right game at the right time.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Yup because Stellar Blade was so woke with no titties
FalsettoVibe
Member
I am being real. FF exclusivity made sense (at the time). The series has become synonymous with Sony and sells way better on PS platforms anyway. Even with that being said, the last multiplatform single player
FF game (FF15) sold like 10 million lifetime vs 4-5 for FF16. Now I'm not gonna say whether that is good or bad since you have to count the costs of porting games to other platforms to help determine that, but in this case, a game like Elden Ring has sold 25+ million copies across PS, Xbox and PC. A massive chunk of those are on PC. I'm not some business analyst of anything but is seems extremely short sighted for Sony to make something like ER2 exclusive. Maybe timed, but no way 100% exclusive.
Also SE isn't a random company...lol
Hrk69
Member
Hur durr, no kidding. Good game, available on more platforms, sells better. What a groundbreaking observation
What other brilliant revelations do you have for us?
Elden Ring became a worldwide cultural event. If you really think 'There's zero chance Elden Ring would have blown up the way that it did without being day one on Steam' you're seriously overlooking the broader impact
Quality, hype, and FromSoftware’s legacy made it the sensation it was. Steam was a bonus, not the defining factor
Radical_3d
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jm89
Member
Why would they be spun out?
I am more than sure that the guys from Tencent themselves don't give a damn about this. If I remember correctly, They in the top 20 richest companies in the world with a capitalization of about $500B, if they were given the opportunity, they would buy Sony and Nintendo purely for the company, but usually someone constantly interferes with their deals and blocks them because they are from China =)
Zacfoldor
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The right game at the right time also needs to be at the right place, which ER was by being multiplat. If some people here can't understand that then so be it, but this is getting ridiculous because some of you are getting your feelings hurt over an objectively true statement because of console war bullshit. Would it help you guys if I said that being on Playstation was also an undeniable part of its success and it wouldn't have hit near the highs that it did if it had been PC exclusive? Because that's also true too.
XXL
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They won't be given the opportunity just for the last part you mentioned, by Japan. That's the rub.
That's why I think they stick to the tactics of slowly buying up companies through the stock market, gradually buying up controlling stakes. It's not so striking, there are chances that they won't notice =)))
XXL
Member
PC fanboys acting like Playstation is too woke for them is hilarious.
PC has the wokest games and the most of them. It's not even fucking close.
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Antwix
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Sekiro sold more than 10m
I said was. Previous Sekiro numbers from around then were 5 million. BB current sales are not known. It didn’t magically stop selling after ER released.
But the point was the sales were in the ballpark of other games that allegedly are dependent upon steam. Relatively few sales would be lost on an exclusive Elden ring 2. But a lot more PS hardware would be sold.
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Fake
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Bloodborne patch to remove gender and place Type A/Type B incoming.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Oh, we all notice.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
If Sony goes all in for a storefront there’s no reason to not do day and date
As I understand it, they don’t care about such trifles now, they are busy with the possibility of buying Ubisoft.
Jinzo Prime
Member
Buying a high-end console on top of high-end PC parts isn't sustainable right now so I hope Sony doesn't make me have to choose! I buy quite a few Sony published games on PC and I hope they don't drop us like a hot potato.
Mephisto40
Member
Didn't realise it had actually happened
Surprised Sony aren't offering Crunchyroll as an incentive to take out PS+ Premium, it would definitely steer me more towards paying for the higher tier