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Media Create Sales: Week 16, 2013 (Apr 15 - Apr 21)
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fabricated backlash
Member
At this rate it might stabilize at 5k-8k for the next months. Just throwing out a prediction here.
Bruno MB
Member
Yes, but not every week since sales have slowed down considerably.
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| | [B]AC: Wild World[/B] | [B]AC: New Leaf[/B] | [B]Difference[/B] |
| | [NDS] (2005/11/23)| [3DS] (2012/11/08)| |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD |AC:NL - AC:WW |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 1 | 335.425| 335.425| 721.786| 721.786| 386.361|
| 2 | 142.869| 478.294| 315.317|1.037.103| 558.809|
| 3 | 116.965| 595.259| 237.823|1.274.926| 679.667|
| 4 | 192.571| 787.830| 118.898|1.393.824| 605.994|
| 5 | 381.927|1.169.757| 115.556|1.509.380| 339.623|
| 6 | 169.795|1.339.552| 213.329|1.722.709| 383.157|
| 7 | 152.339|1.491.891| 400.320|2.123.029| 631.138|
| 8 | 64.242|1.556.133| 163.948|2.286.977| 730.844|
| 9 | 89.892|1.646.025| 135.971|2.422.948| 776.923|
| 10 | 93.443|1.739.468| 86.926|2.509.874| 770.406|
| 11 | 69.401|1.808.869| 97.808|2.607.682| 798.813|
| 12 | 55.169|1.864.038| 83.226|2.690.908| 826.870|
| 13 | 53.594|1.917.632| 76.039|2.766.947| 849.315|
| 14 | 57.383|1.975.015| 90.652|2.857.599| 882.584|
| 15 | 88.709|2.063.724| 76.747|2.934.346| 870.622|
| 16 | 93.508|2.157.232| 77.709|3.012.055| 854.823|
| 17 | 88.292|2.245.524| 76.075|3.088.130| 842.606|
| 18 | 101.839|2.347.363| 69.124|3.157.254| 809.891|
| 19 | 95.034|2.442.397| 60.736|3.217.990| 775.593|
| 20 | 68.889|2.511.286| 60.789|3.278.779| 767.493|
| 21 | 49.596|2.560.882| 60.844|3.339.623| 778.741|
| 22 | 40.608|2.601.490| 52.349|3.391.972| 790.482|
| 23 | -| -| 36.845|3.428.817| -|
| 24 | -|2.713.688| 34.566|3.463.383| 749.685|
| 25 | 30.887|2.744.575| | | |
| 26 | 31.802|2.776.377| | | |
| 27 | 36.245|2.812.622| | | |
| 28 | 30.319|2.842.941| | | |
| 29 | 29.343|2.872.284| | | |
| 30 | 29.525|2.901.809| | | |
| 31 | 24.808|2.926.617| | | |
| 32 | 23.200|2.949.817| | | |
| 33 | 20.480|2.970.297| | | |
| 34 | 17.968|2.988.265| | | |
| 35 | 25.361|3.013.626| | | |
| 36 | 21.083|3.034.709| | | |
| 37 | 21.501|3.056.210| | | |
| 38 | -| -| | | |
| 39 | -|3.115.414| | | |
| 40 | 21.492|3.136.906| | | |
| 41 | 22.565|3.159.471| | | |
| 42 | 18.772|3.178.243| | | |
| 43 | 20.634|3.198.877| | | |
| 44 | 20.447|3.219.324| | | |
| 45 | 19.713|3.239.037| | | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Year| YTD | LTD | YTD | LTD | Difference |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 1 |1.169.757|1.169.757|2.286.977|2.286.997| 1.117.240|
| 2 |2.485.264|3.665.021|1.176.386|3.463.383| -201.638|
| 3 | 858.501|4.513.522| -| -| -|
| 4 | 338.531|4.852.053| -| -| -|
| 5 | 258.996|5.111.049| -| -| -|
| 6 | 46.432|5.157.481| -| -| -|
| 7 | 37.181|5.194.662| -| -| -|
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| LTD| -|5.194.662| -|3.463.383| -1.731.279|
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3 million WW is looking very likely now? When did that happen?
Exterminieren
Banned
Animal Crossing even decelerated in sales around the same sort of time that Wild World did.
It'll be interesting to see how Tomodatchi and New Leaf fare in the upcoming weeks. I could see them making a good combination for new owners to jump in with.
It'll be interesting to see how Tomodatchi and New Leaf fare in the upcoming weeks. I could see them making a good combination for new owners to jump in with.
Magicpaint
Member
It has shipped over 1 million copies already (1.22m to be exact). Given that I expect it to have legs in true Nintendo first party style, then I can easily see 3m happening.
Well it opened pretty well in the US and it has already shipped over 1.2 million WW, so I guess that's where he's coming from... But yeah I don't think 3m WW is guaranteed (but there's a decent chance if it has decent legs in the US/EU)
electroplankton
Banned
Maybe, since it's likely one of the biggest releases for Vita in 2013, and it's not so difficult to reach 200k units between Europe and NA.
Pretty sure a 15k baseline won't stop people calling it a dead system.
Which it will be if Sony doesn't take action. 15k is still terrible no matter how someone tries to spin it.
True dat.
If the Wii U was doing 15k a week that wouldnt somehow become a good number.
Remember when people expected a 35k baseline?
electroplankton
Banned
Indeed. The percentage increase might seem huge, but that's because Vita was selling on the borderline of being discontinued by retailers. Now it's selling like 15k on a weekly basis, but Sony is losing more money, without having created a more long-lasting effect.
This is a silly argument. It's still a improvement.
Indeed, it'll be dead next
So? I have no shares in Sony. I'm just glad to see the install base gradually growing in the vain hopes it will attract a little more software support so I have more great games to play.
No, I don't remember that.
tauroxd
Member
Yes but, hey! people here are celebrating the quantity in numbers of consoles, not on money that Sony is losing/earning.
And I want to make clear that this doesn't mean Vita is dooooooooooooomed, but the fact that I'm sad because it doesn't even make any sense to have that price cut if you are not going to get a lot better.
In the matter of Todamachi, oh boy, I expect Iwata to bring this game to see what is all this fuss about.
electroplankton
Banned
True, but at what expense? Losing more money and still doing crappy numbers overall. I mean, before Vita was doing 8-10k units, now it's doing (maybe) 15k: I don't think developers will change their plans for a 5-7k units increase on a weekly basis.
I don't think this new baseline (if it really is the new baseline) will change the momentum the way you are implying. If anything the small increase might be even more discouraging to developers for all we know.
tauroxd
Member
Well the expense is to lose more right now to have the possibility of a better number of console wich will attract more game developers wich will bring more sales in game and hardware wich will mean more money to Sony, but yes, it's a risky business
electroplankton
Banned
Of course, losing money now to gain market share and then improve the situation is something that we already saw recently (Nintendo was selling 3DS at a loss after the price cut). The problem is that the situation doesn't seem to be greatly improved.
Father_Brain
Banned
Yeah, I'd say 20-25K would be the bare minimum that might result in third parties positively reevaluating their investment in the platform, which is why I think 15K would only be a success relative to extremely low expectations (including mine).
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
And people were worried Tomodachi Collection was goiing to completely cannibalize Animal Crossing.
Magicpaint
Member
15k is still quite a bit better than the 6-8k the Vita probably would be doing if Sony just continued to sit and twiddle their thumbs, but the work is far from over. The system needs a constant barrage of software to really gather momentum, so it's a bit of a shame there's nothing compelling for a while. Post-Golden week might be harsh for the Vita, so let's see if new attractive software is announced soon enough.
I'm expecting bombs at E3.
electroplankton
Banned
At least, the success of games like Senran Kagura and Monster Monpiece will bring more niche developers on the platform, and they will likely rely on fanservice stuffs since they sell quite good there.
tauroxd
Member
Yes, that's why I said earlier that I'm while I'm not saying vita is doomed it's sad to see that the price cut didn't do great things when it comes to hardware sales.
All other platforms have seen their sales fall when you look at year to year sales. Vita has increased 66% in the same time period.
Sure this is compared to abysmal sales from last year, but the bottom line there is no shame in that kind of sales increase from a machine that has been pretty much sent to an early grave by most pundits.
Yup, what the price cut has shown is that all is still not lost I think and there is still interest in the system as long as the games come.
Exterminieren
Banned
tauroxd
Member
I know what you mean but Soul Sacrifice was launched near that price cut. But yes you are right Sony should have waited for a bettter numbers of games to be released in the same month to have a price cut.
Let's be fair, where would the Vita be now if it weren't for the price cut? It would be doing sub-10K numbers. If the price cut will increase the userbase which increases software sales, that would be a better result than selling very little hardware and less software sales.
You forgot to add in Vita Heavens.
You forgot to add in Vita Heavens.
I don't even think it matters. The Wii U's fate will not be sealed by the baseline of the next few weeks or even months. How it performs during and after the heavy hitters of the holiday season will lay out its cards for the future.
For now it will continue chugging slowly along.
I bet Nintendo wishes that AC game was only on Wii U... maybe then it would help sell some actual units.. then again it might have well bombed because no one is interested in the consoles... odd because there seems to be a lot of great value to the wii u and off screen play etc.... disappointing for sure.
Sammy Samusu
Member
*cackles*
GhostTrick
Banned
Ouch ! Poor Vita...
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Am I missing something from all the "poor Vita" posts?
grimshawish
Banned
I've chosen to ignore them. Its not a good baseline but its not negative from last week so seems a strange note to take.
118 more posts to go.
Exterminieren
Banned
That 15K is still a poor baseline, and that it has a solid month coming up with no meaningful releases of any kind.
It is strange that they're all happening this week though.
GhostTrick
Banned
Well, its price dropped... and still, it still going down. People are claiming "it's holding !""15k baseline"
Last week was 19k, this week is 15k... Is that what you call holding ?
ULTROS!
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I honestly expect bombs too. I mean it's E3.
Last week was 14k