electroplankton
Banned
It was 10k last week.
I hope they'll ship more than 10k bundles, and you have to add stand-alone Wiis.
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Media Create Sales: Week 30, 2012 (Jul 23 - Jul 29)
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It was 10k last week.
I hope they'll ship more than 10k bundles, and you have to add stand-alone Wiis.
20k? Bundles should be more than that.
frankie_baby
Member
What for wii hardware? I'd say that much minimum, perhaps more if there's plenty of the bundle
distantmantra
Member
I'm sure that had an impact on sales, but honestly, the only edit I even notice is the head stomp which is still shown.
That's good to hear its moving consoles, even if its the last wii game to be released in Japan (that we know of now).
Damn Oo I'm so gonna print that out and glue it over my version!
Btw: after reading that SE intends to support DQX for at least 10 years, did they mean the wii version? or the wii u version? or are both somehow using the same servers, maybe even crossplay?
electroplankton
Banned
I think Square confirmed people will be able to transfer their profile to Wii U, though it did not indicate how and when.
Turn off the Wii, turn on the Wii U and put/install the game in there, start the game and log in to the servers: ta-da! That's how MMOs work.
*Although it wasn't possible to use the same PS2 account for PC and viceversa back during FFXI first years, but with the 360 port, they solved the issue.
Gamer @ Heart
Member
I bet they will make players buy the game again. Especially if the assets and everything are of much higher quality.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I don't think this is even in question. I'll be shocked if the Wii U version is not separate while still allowing crossplay.
BishopLamont
Banned
Trinity didn't even recieve a good bump, thats baffling.
If you consider that many 3DS are just uprgrading to the XL and there is much competition, especially with NSMB 2 being released, its not all that bad. Sales will rise higher once the holidays begin.
I Stalk Alone
Member
I think it is a testament to the strength of NSMB as a title to sell new units. The trinity will be bought by these newcomers in the coming weeks. NSMB will be part of maybe half a dozen evergreen titles that includes those three.
Obon is in 10 days or so what kind of sales do we expect during this time? Is it a decrease of sales?
electroplankton
Banned
I followed the sales of this game and it was incredible to see it reappearing in the chart during the holiday season, since it was released in August or so.
Imo, it's outstanding that Monster Hunter 3G is still in chart (I thought it would have been good legs, but not so good, and the budget release has not been released yet), while Mario Kart 7 put good numbers; 3D Land, instead, is suffering NSMB2 competition, and this was quite expected. Being the most successful 3D Mario ever in Japan is enough, I think.
DQX servers
What does that even mean?
Smiles and Cries
Member
crowded
It's the sever status.
1-13: full.
14-16: full (single-player-something)
17-18: full (players without keyboard)
19: full (students)
terrisus
Member
Do we have any idea how much each server holds as its maximum capacity?
And, are there only 20 servers, meaning that you can't play if you're not currently logged in until someone else logs off, or does it add more servers as needed? Since, being left out of playing would be very bad.
And, are there only 20 servers, meaning that you can't play if you're not currently logged in until someone else logs off, or does it add more servers as needed? Since, being left out of playing would be very bad.
metalslimer
Member
Seems I may have underestimated the game.
There are people in the OT mentioning having to mash a button to retry attempting to login after logging out, and the 20 server count seems consistent, so it sounds like it's probably limited by server capacity.
Truly weird that they'd so vastly overship the title in terms of retail discs, then apparently not have the server count to support it. I guess that's what offline mode's for?
slaughterking
Member
The game is not overshipped. We only know first day sell-throughs and they were pretty solid. And server queues are not uncommon for MMO launches either.
BassForever
Member
It has an awesome boxart though
I'm going to print that and use it over my actual Cave Story 3D box art.
And seems like DQX is going to do damage if those subscribers stay for more then the free month.
terrisus
Member
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32913293&postcount=1
Yeah, did we ever get an update on that? We may have, and I may have just missed it.
But still, wouldn't be surprised, and definitely wouldn't be surprised in Dragon Quest XI being for 3DS. With Dragon Quest X already being planned for WiiU (in addition to the current Wii version), unless they go with another one on that, it would seem to fit the mold of "platform with the largest userbase"
Wow! Would love if this were true. I've never played DQ7.
BishopLamont
Banned
Looks like DQ will be the more likely million contender for the Wii as oppose to MP9 like I thought. It might not do it with the Wii version only, but combined with the Wii U, I think its possible.
Regarding the the trinity, I'm more surprised that they basically didn't even get a bump, weeks where smaller new releases have done more for it than this week where more than 200k hardware was sold. Yeah it looks the majority of the 3DSXL buyers were upgraders from the 3DS, but I thought a fraction of that would have been new buyers. Maybe NSMB did suck the life out of everything.
I can't wait for the Wii-U's launch, just to see how third parties are gonna treat it compared to the Wii.
Regarding the the trinity, I'm more surprised that they basically didn't even get a bump, weeks where smaller new releases have done more for it than this week where more than 200k hardware was sold. Yeah it looks the majority of the 3DSXL buyers were upgraders from the 3DS, but I thought a fraction of that would have been new buyers. Maybe NSMB did suck the life out of everything.
I can't wait for the Wii-U's launch, just to see how third parties are gonna treat it compared to the Wii.
Gianni Merryman
Member
All things being considered, I reckon Wii has had a good support in Japan overall.
I mean, Monster hunter and Dragon quest are quite strong IPs in Japan, and having both aboard with exclusive installments is a very good achievement for Nintendo.
That being said, I hope WiiU will have a better support from 3rd parties than Wii, still I think MH and DQ are something huge that will not be easy to replicate.
electroplankton
Banned
Other than MH and DQ, Wii didn't have anything relevant from Japanese third parties.
Monster Hunter is only huge on handhelds and Dragon Quest X, while clearly not insignificant, is not the brute force sales driver that the non-MMO games are.
I think it's actually a bigger coup for Nintendo that they've got a Wii U version coming too.
3rd party support was generally terrible. It took until mid 2009 for there to be anything really substantial (MH Tri, SW3, Tales of Graces) and that was 2 years too late.
Gianni Merryman
Member
Yeah, I know, yet these two games alone say something about how smart Nintendo has been building up some long-term relations with Capcom and Square, doesn't it?
In the first place Monster hunter jumping the boat was something that no-one was expecting, and although it has sold just a million in Japan, has assuredly affected Wii's outlook in general.
Secondly, Dragon quest X on Wii is just a little part of a plan that has brought DQIX, Joker and Joker 2 on DS, along with FFXI and several ports of older Square-Enix games on the DS, and this trend seems to be comfirmed on 3DS with Terry's wonderland that has sold decently.
My point was this, MH and DQ have been extremely important for the success of both Wii and DS in Japan, although Wii has suffered of a lack of high-budget games in the long run, an issue that will be hopefully readdressed on WiiU.
Well, if the U is backwards compatible, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't play the current Wii version. Although I do think the U version will have a better graphics engine, thus making people buy the game again, but they will carry on with their characters as normal, just in a better looking world.
Gianni Merryman
Member
You're saying this in hindsight, but back in the day Tri's announcement was something big for what I can recollect, when pretty everyone was dead sure PS3 was going to replicate PS2's success all over again.
Again, let's put it like this, DQX being exclusive to Wii also meant no DQ was to be released on PS3, and that must have put some weight in it at its early stage.
Nintendo this gen has brought the two biggest third-parties IPs in Japan on Wii, thing is though that in the long run all multi-platforms PS360 games have de facto turned out to be PS3 exclusives, on account of XBox360's abysmal sales in Japan, whereas Wii couldn't run said games because it was underpowered.
Mind, most probably there wouldn't be no DQX on WiiU if it wasn't for Wii's version in the first place, so you're proving my point right.
metalslimer
Member
No they weren't. Monster Hunter Tri was not a big factor in how the Wii sold or has sold and DQX wouldn't have made the Wii sell much less even if it were on PS3. DQ's success on the DS gave DQ's it's record breaking sales not the other way around, and MH wasn't even on the DS. Nintendo managed to secure the biggest 3rd party franchises for the Wii in forms that make them much less attractive (console MH and MMO DQ).
nordique
Member
I'm sure MH and DQ being on Nintendo systems has changed something, at least in terms of perception of Nintendo hardware content-wise in Japan than before those titles were there.
In that sense, he has a valid point.
Its still two IPs/partnerships that were important for Nintendo, especially for Japanese mindshare.
In a way it kind of says to the more involved casual gamer "no need to purchase anything but Nintendo systems moving forward"
In that sense, he has a valid point.
Its still two IPs/partnerships that were important for Nintendo, especially for Japanese mindshare.
In a way it kind of says to the more involved casual gamer "no need to purchase anything but Nintendo systems moving forward"
Hero of Legend
Member
Here's the original MH3 announcement thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=197777
Shame the game didn't really reel in that much extra JP support.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=197777
Shame the game didn't really reel in that much extra JP support.
twentytwo22
Member
Hmm? It was never an issue. I started on JP PS2 and when the PC ver came out would move back and forth for various reasons.
Imho it will be ff7.
I mean with ds we had the 3 remakes so dq7 wouldnt be a megaton that a ffvii remake on 3ds could be.
I anyway courius to see dqx performance
Yet they've made several comments that would lead one to believe there won't be a FFVII remake anytime soon.
Considering they have been remaking the DQ games for DS it would just be natural if they do DQXII next, in my opinion... No one ever said it has to be a "megaton".
Edit: To be honest, it pretty much has to be DQVII. They'll release that and a year or so later DQXII for 3DS...
Indeed dqvii would benefit a lot from a remake. Loading/faster battles and smaller areas and faster walking speed = best dq ever imho
electroplankton
Banned
We were talking about Wii, and you wrote "All things being considered, I reckon Wii has had a good support in Japan overall.". I completely disagree with that.
Yeah, it had the mainline Monster Hunter and a mainline Dragon Quest but while the former became an handheld deal, the latter came as a MMORPG, and we have seen how it will end up to sell (good, but not as good as IX or VIII).
Other than those two franchises, Wii got a lot of shitty support from third party developers, or stuffs no one really cared (niche titles, obscure IPs, bad strategies such as releasing Graces the week before FFXIII and the like).
Zevenberge
Member
I didn't even realise it was out of the top-50. Poor FE.
Sammy Samusu
Member
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=197522&page=19Here's the original MH3 announcement thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=197777
Shame the game didn't really reel in that much extra JP support.
This one is much better.
Hero of Legend
Member
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=197522&page=10
This page for those using 100 posts per page.
Amazing.
electroplankton
Banned
DQVII will be huge, but honestly, I expected also DQVI to be huge since it was never remade and was one of the best selling titles in the series; it ended up to sell on par with IV and V remakes.