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[Y2Kev]

Haven't gotten JC2 from gamefly, but impressions have been generally positive. It was a very competitive month, but i expected at least 1 version in the top 20.

I think GAF likes open world games more than the general public. I guess this can't really be proven either way, but I think most popular games are linear experiences. Stuff like Mario and Call of Duty. GTA is probably the lone exception? Maybe open world games are too daunting for most?

 

[Saty]

HR was released in Feburary, how early did you want it to be? January had MAG.
Anyhow, good showing for Heavy Rain.

Ouch, Metro 2033 and JC2 nowhere to be seen. SupCom 2 of course no-show as well, but no surprise there. Guess we can hope the PC version of the 3 games carried some of the slack.

 

[Nemesis121]

Nintendo lol all the way to the bank, while Sony and MS fight for shitty second place.

 

[Grampa Simpson]

I think it's selling poorly because fans of Nintendo are only used to having one or two good third party titles to choose from per year. We are already double that this year!

Or just plain stopped looking at 3rd party titles. The tendency for crap is too high.

 

[Man God]

I think GAF likes open world games more than the general public. I guess this can't really be proven either way, but I think most popular games are linear experiences. Stuff like Mario and Call of Duty. GTA is probably the lone exception? Maybe open world games are too daunting for most?

Or it came out really late in a very strong month.

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

Another issue would be that a lot of gamers bought Wiis in the early days on the promise of something like Red Steel 2, and what they got were Red Steel 1 and other wagglefests that drove away consumers and third-party developers alike.

That first year of the Wii really hurt it in terms of third-parties. If things had gone differently, the situation today might have been quite different as well.

I think people tend to forget how bad the Wii's first 2 years were. The droughts were ridiculous and were usually halted by games like Resident Evil: Wii Edition.

Yes, but sports team lovers still love the sport and would go see other teams play given the chance.

No they wouldn't. :lol

Isn't it weird that Yazkua 3 totally bombs in spectacular fashion, but no one is ever gonna mention it to Sega, ever again? "Why did Yakuza 3 do so poorly?"

But in 3 months, Sega's still going to be giving interviews about how badly mismatched Madworld was for the Wii audience.

:lol Needs to be quoted again.

 

[Cornbread78]

Anyonone know where White Knight Chronicles ended up? Is there a sales figure anywhere? just curious...


Oh and this is a great showing for PS3 Owners. It definately shows they are doign well for themselves right now. The Xbox number will pick up when the nwe Halo and GoW hit the shelves.

 

[velvet_nitemare]

I think GAF likes open world games more than the general public. I guess this can't really be proven either way, but I think most popular games are linear experiences. Stuff like Mario and Call of Duty. GTA is probably the lone exception? Maybe open world games are too daunting for most?

For JC3, they need a whore house where u can go to refill HP, then afterward you can use the grappling hook to get your money back. Day 1 right there.

 

[Tom Penny]

Yes, but sports team lovers still love the sport and would go see other teams play given the chance.

Wat? :lol

 

[velvet_nitemare]

Let's get a list of games released last month not in the top 20

SMT:SJ
Just Cause 2 (PS360)
Yakuza 3
Metro 2033
Red Steel 2
Resonance of Fate (PS360)
Infinite Space
Supreme Commander 2

anything else?

 

[chubigans]

Im completely shocked that Just Cause 2 didn't crack the top 20, especially since it was number one in the UK, besting the Pokemon games.

Damn shame too.

And given the great legs the God of War collection has had, I wonder if GOWIII will do the same?

 

[Pooya]

Let's get a list of games released last month not in the top 20

SMT:SJ
Just Cause 2 (PS360)
Yakuza 3
Metro 2033
Red Steel 2
Resonance of Fate (PS360)

anything else?

SupCom 2 (360)

 

[ivysaur12]

Yup, sucks for Red Steel 2

Spoiler

I don't own it. One day.

 

[Katana_Strikes]

Let's get a list of games released last month not in the top 20

SMT:SJ
Just Cause 2 (PS360)
Yakuza 3
Metro 2033
Red Steel 2
Resonance of Fate (PS360)

anything else?

The only one suprising for me on that list not making it is JC2. The rest couldn't have been expected to sell too well.

GoW Collection :bow:

This and 3 should continue to sell well for a while. Great 2nd month for Heavy Rain also.

 

[Sanic]

Or it came out really late in a very strong month.

Probably. I thought they advertised it well enough. The important thing, though, is that it's apparently doing well enough to keep the developer (Avalanche) afloat.

 

[nincompoop]

Let's get a list of games released last month not in the top 20

SMT:SJ
Just Cause 2 (PS360)
Yakuza 3
Metro 2033
Red Steel 2
Resonance of Fate (PS360)
Infinite Space
Supreme Commander 2

anything else?

Calling (Wii).

I'm almost scared to find out how badly that one bombed.

 

[MattyGrovesOrMe]

Screw March releases, some high profile releases from Feb (including last month's number 1) are nowhere to be found in the top 20 this month, despite big fall releases from 09 still lingering. No legs for BioShock 2?

How common is it that the previous month's chart topper is out of the top twenty in the following month's NPD?

Other top twenty shows last month (Dante, AvP, MAG and ME2) are also absent.

Edit: For grammar/punctuation. Yup, I'm just that crazy.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Calling (Wii).

I'm almost scared to find out how badly that one bombed.

then it has done its job as a horror game

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Yup, sucks for Red Steel 2

Spoiler

I don't own it. One day.

clearly wii owners were just saving their money so that monster hunter tri and trauma team can top the charts in april and may

 

[evangd007]

Wait, did RS2 get outsold by TvC? :lol

TvC had a good commercial and is part of a better franchise.

I'm not too worried about Red Steel 2's sales. It will probably do better in Europe because of the more attention the press is giving it there and I sincerely believe that it will have a long tail, because unlike the other Wii games that people said would have legs, Red Steel 2 is actually good.

I know people get laughed at for "loving" a console manufacturer, but I really don't see it as being any different than "loving" a sports team.

Comparing console fanaticism to sports team fanaticism does not in any way make either more acceptable.

 

[Boney]

Let's get a list of games released last month not in the top 20

SMT:SJ
Just Cause 2 (PS360)
Yakuza 3
Metro 2033
Red Steel 2
Resonance of Fate (PS360)
Infinite Space
Supreme Commander 2

anything else?

Wario Ware DIY

 

[rollingstart]

if there isn't a Just Cause 3 I'll be pissed off

JC2 is so much fun.

seriously, if I could only have one game from March, it would be JC2.

 

[chubigans]

if there isn't a Just Cause 3 I'll be pissed off

JC2 is so much fun

Fear not!

http://www.develop-online.net/news/34329/Just-Cause-sequel-promising-as-Avalanche-rejoices

“We are absolutely interested in working with the Just Cause IP again,” he said.

“I personally wrote the original pitch for the game in early 2003, so it’s something that means s lot for me and for the people in this studio.

“The studio lives and breathes the Just Cause franchise, and handing that over to another developer would spoil it. No one has the attachment to this IP as we do.”

In claiming number one in the ELSPA GfK Chart-Track All Formats Top 40 this week, Just Cause 2 proved Avalanche’s capacity to deliver big hits, sundberg said.

“We couldn’t be happier, it’s been amazing for us."

 

[mugurumakensei]

Wait, did RS2 get outsold by TvC? :lol

TvC had goodish second month sales too.

TvC, MadWorld, and Conduit all had better opening months than RS2.

 

[Owzers]

Or just plain stopped looking at 3rd party titles. The tendency for crap is too high.

Or weren't looking to begin with.

 

[Ricker]

Isn`t Wal-Mart not included in those numbers? a lot of people probably bought it from them because it had a launch sale for 3 days I think,at 39 bucks....just saying,i`m really surprised this game is not in the top 20...The Calling I can understand but JC2?....

 

[scitek]

Conduit sold just under 72k in its first month: http://www.edge-online.com/news/the-conduit-sells-under-72k-in-the-us-during-june

I think the last time we heard about it it was somewhere around 150k worldwide.
.

I saw a page from some UK magazine not too long ago that had both Madworld and the Conduit at around 300k worldwide earlier this year, and HotD Overkill at 400k.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

TvC had a good commercial and is part of a better franchise.

I'm not too worried about Red Steel 2's sales. It will probably do better in Europe because of the more attention the press is giving it there and I sincerely believe that it will have a long tail, because unlike the other Wii games that people said would have legs, Red Steel 2 is actually good.

Actually, comparing first month numbers it seems they sold about equally, although TvC was only available for 5 days and RS2 was available for 12.

 

[mugurumakensei]

Or weren't looking to begin with.

This is slightly correct and so was what it replied too. There weren't some 60+ million nintendo fanboys before the Wii. The Wii audience converged on buying Nintendo games as even Nintendo's casual titles are very entertaining. However, both core and casual titles from Third parties have been mostly mediocre to outright bad. Therefore, Nintendo has a market that is guaranteed to buy their well advertised titles, and third party games are now mostly coin tosses as to whether they will be successful or not for the most part though advertising and a good game can still rake in decent sales like with Tatsunoko vs Capcom, House of the Dead, and Wiiware games like World of Goo.

 

[Y2Kev]

Or it came out really late in a very strong month.

I didn't mention JC2 anywhere in that post. I am talking more about the genre as a whole. What are some successful open world franchises?

 

[rexor0717]

Fear not!

http://www.develop-online.net/news/34329/Just-Cause-sequel-promising-as-Avalanche-rejoices

Yes! This is great news.

 

[JaxJag]

I didn't mention JC2 anywhere in that post. I am talking more about the genre as a whole. What are some successful open world franchises?

All of them?

 

[Sanic]

I didn't mention JC2 anywhere in that post. I am talking more about the genre as a whole. What are some successful open world franchises?

Succesful open world games in the traditional sense, off the top of my head, this generation:

Prototype
Red Faction: Guerilla
GTA IV
Crackdown
Saints Row 1+2

Plus you have genre convergence, so you have many games with open world elements. Assasins' Creed, Far Cry 2, etc. And there are other games, such as Bully, but i'm not sure how well they performed. I wouldn't say the genre is in any kind of decline.

 

[Pooya]

I didn't mention JC2 anywhere in that post. I am talking more about the genre as a whole. What are some successful open world franchises?

Assassins Creed
Bully
Mafia 1 sold a few million copies.
soon Red Dead Redemption.

 

[Y2Kev]

Succesful open world games in the traditional sense, off the top of my head, this generation:

Prototype
Red Faction: Guerilla
GTA IV
Crackdown
Saints Row 1+2

Plus you have genre convergence, so you have many games with open world elements. Assasins' Creed, Far Cry 2, etc. I wouldn't say the genre is in any kind of decline.

Hmm, yeah. This is more than I thought there were. I'm not saying the genre is in decline. I did say, though, that linear experiences may appeal to a wider audience. I think that might be true.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

How common is it that the previous month's chart topper is out of the top twenty in the following month's NPD?

If Bioshock 2 not recharting shocked you you are gonna have a fucking heart attack next month.

 

[Mrbob]

The GoW Collection has helped bolster GoW3 sales. I saw this from the gamasutra article:

This is the fourth month for God of War Collection to make the top 20, and the game has sold over 650,000 units in the U.S. since its November launch, according to NPD.

A million sold will be a lock for the title. More collections have to be coming, especially after this one is at 650K and counting. GoW Collection has been a massive success. Even if other collections sell a fraction of GoW it would have to be easy money.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

The GoW Collection has helped bolster GoW3 sales. I saw this from the gamasutra article:



A million sold will be a lock for the title. More collections have to be coming, especially after this one is at 650K and counting. GoW Collection has been a massive success. Even if other collections sell a fraction of GoW it would have to be easy money.

wipeoutcollectionwipeoutcollectionwipeoutcollection

 

[Rated-Rsuperstar]

I did my part and bought Just Cause 2 but I didn't have enough money for Yakuza 3.

 

[Man]

Ico and SOTC collection. The number of GOW collections sold. The ICO series director wanting a collection to release. One of the top desires on PS.Blog.Share. It is going to happen.

 

[Mrbob]

wipeoutcollectionwipeoutcollectionwipeoutcollection

Did you get your PS3? Wipeout HD is on sale this week for $9.99 on PSN. I picked it up and it is so good.

 

[Ashes]

I suppose, if you are talking about the ps3, you could do COD collection. COD1234WAWMW2

 

[Snuggles]

I just shed a tear after seeing that Just Cause 2 didn't chart.
I think it'll do decent over time, I know that the first month is the big one but in JC2's case I think that word of mouth/youtube will drive gamers to buy it over the next couple months. It didn't help that it came out around the same time as a few big franchises.
Still, sub 100K is rough and I was expecting at least a little better. Not only do I want to see a good game sell but I've heard some chatter about Avalanche's future being iffy so I definitely want this game to be a success.


I don't know how to GIF so I'll just post this video of Rico getting crushed by a spinning car since it's sort of symbolic of JC2's sales performance.

 

[Zen]

So Heavy Rain is > 319K in America right now. Those are some pretty good legs fora title that sold 219k in its first month.

 

[Shadow780]

Surprising number for GoW3, I never thought it could best FFXIII on the same console.

inb4irrelevant

 

[Struct09]

Did you get your PS3? Wipeout HD is on sale this week for $9.99 on PSN. I picked it up and it is so good.

How did I not know this? Bought!

 

[Loudninja]

So Heavy Rain is > 319K in America right now. Those are some pretty good legs fora title that sold 219k in its first month.

Yep its doing good.

 

[Rated-Rsuperstar]

I suppose, if you are talking about the ps3, you could do COD collection. COD1234WAWMW2

There are way more important games to get re-released before Cod. Ratchet, POP, DMC.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Did you get your PS3? Wipeout HD is on sale this week for $9.99 on PSN. I picked it up and it is so good.

Not yet.



I keep getting games instead saving money.

 

[Owzers]

This is slightly correct and so was what it replied too. There weren't some 60+ million nintendo fanboys before the Wii. The Wii audience converged on buying Nintendo games as even Nintendo's casual titles are very entertaining. However, both core and casual titles from Third parties have been mostly mediocre to outright bad. Therefore, Nintendo has a market that is guaranteed to buy their well advertised titles, and third party games are now mostly coin tosses as to whether they will be successful or not for the most part though advertising and a good game can still rake in decent sales like with Tatsunoko vs Capcom, House of the Dead, and Wiiware games like World of Goo.

I don't think the majority of Wii's audience is interested in anything past Nintendo titles and fun looking casual games. I also believe a lot of the core audience on Wii owns another system and Wii's core titles have to compete with titles on the other platforms. I passed on Red Steel 2 and bought God of War 3 and FFXIII. Next month i am getting Monster Hunter 3 though.