brandonh83
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Microsoft bought all game shop employees Red Bulls on the day of launch.
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NPD Sales Results for November 2013 [Up3: Zelda, Pokemon, Mario, 3DS, Wii U]
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Microsoft bought all game shop employees Red Bulls on the day of launch.
The Wii U was flawed from the get go because coming in as late as it did studios already have their talent force divided up for platform work. They aren't suddenly going to hire more people or shift significant numbers to toss the Wii U into the mix with PS360.
Nintendo needed to be in earlier so that resource shifting could be done reasonably. Even with their next console if they emergency rush it now it will be 2-3 years into Xbone and PS4 and imo too late again for development resource splits.
Alex
Member
I bought 3D World day one and like it quite a bit, meanwhile I own nothing from the NPD top 10 but come on, it's a little crude to be defending a Mario game with this kind of line.
It's not some hyper innovative, risk taking little misunderstood angel. It's a good Mario game that uses the same general formula and thematic as every other Mario game, even if you want to dice down the subtleties in the general layout it's very much 3D Land 2 (which is very fine)
Lament it not selling well because it's a good game, not because you need to prop up a superiority complex over others.
dreamer3kx
Member
So xbox one is "fastest selling" because no ps4 on shelves?
tensuke
Member
Dreamland.
where's the dreamcast in this chart
Gap's probably going to widen even further in December.
Option three, sort of an option 1 plus. Drop it to 199, bundle a few games, include codes for shit on the E shop, and drop it when MK or Smash drops.
Why are you going to bother armchair ceo-ing if you are going to suggest an idea that would A) not work and B) none of us want it?
PowderedToast
Junior Member
if mario does those numbers, how do you even justify releasing anything else on this system??
just an unmitigated disaster.
just an unmitigated disaster.
DangerMouse
Member
This. They couldn't even beat the day 1 sales of the PS4 and they're spinning based on speed, it's just too funny.
Yup, and wow at those software numbers for PS4.
Wow. Benderlaugh.gif
If by snooze button you mean they can continue to fall behind in their only real market then sure. And if they lose or even just barely keep up here in the US they are going to be creamed WW since it took a massive US lead to offset how far behind they were in the rest of the world despite everything going right for them at the beginning of last gen.
EmCeeGramr
Member
iwata sat in the darkened office. he had tried everything. it was over, he had lost. where had he gone wrong? everything had seemed to be going right up until the launch and it had all unraveled.
iwata suddenly looked up at the accursed box in front of him. the damned thing. if only... maybe...
he grabbed the wii u box and ran out of the office.
the crowd wasn't quite sure what to make of the businessman running out of the building clutching a box
"you there! stop! please... take a look at this... what do you think of this" he stammered. he produced the box.
"uh... i dunno... what is it?" "i don't like it" "whatever"
"okay. okay. now... how about THIS" cried iwata as he turned the box around and scribbled on it with a marker.
"[SUPER] WiiU 2!!"
"WOW!" "I'LL BUY TEN" "I'M TWEETING THIS RIGHT NOW! ON MIIVERSE!"
iwata's mouth curled into a grin. yes. yes. they understood
iwata suddenly looked up at the accursed box in front of him. the damned thing. if only... maybe...
he grabbed the wii u box and ran out of the office.
the crowd wasn't quite sure what to make of the businessman running out of the building clutching a box
"you there! stop! please... take a look at this... what do you think of this" he stammered. he produced the box.
"uh... i dunno... what is it?" "i don't like it" "whatever"
"okay. okay. now... how about THIS" cried iwata as he turned the box around and scribbled on it with a marker.
"[SUPER] Wii
"WOW!" "I'LL BUY TEN" "I'M TWEETING THIS RIGHT NOW! ON MIIVERSE!"
iwata's mouth curled into a grin. yes. yes. they understood
ChosenPredator
Banned
the greatest thing to come from this thread will be this video, shit made me cry laughing
Cygnus X-1
Member
People claiming that firing Iwata alone will solve the problem are day dreaming. And I would like them to elaborate more on what it would be supposed to change.
Bucket-o-roadkill
Member
What's the deal with all this Dreamcast comparision? As if 'Oh it's as BAD as the Dreamcast? Wow that's REALLY bad'... Seriously? Haha what am I reading?!
Anyone who knows their stuff knows that the market is a fucking different beast than it was in 99. Doing these numbers in 2013 is absolutely shocking and frankly disturbing, people should be wondering about what this means for Nintendo/gaming moving forward instead of STILL trying to kick the Dreamcast when it's down.
Anyone who knows their stuff knows that the market is a fucking different beast than it was in 99. Doing these numbers in 2013 is absolutely shocking and frankly disturbing, people should be wondering about what this means for Nintendo/gaming moving forward instead of STILL trying to kick the Dreamcast when it's down.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I'm glad I sold my stock back in late November with a healthy return is all I can say.
Nonetheless, looking forward to the investors meeting in late January and will most likely look at re-opening a position depending on their report.
freenudemacusers
Member
will buy wii u at $99
next year
next year
bro, the dreamcast is dead. it died a long time ago.
zomgbbqftw
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Code:
Hardware LTD Mario 3D Sales Attach Ratio
GCN 2.120.000 350.000 [B]16.5%[/B]
Wii 6.000.000 1.120.000 [B]18.7%[/B]
Wii U ~ 1.550.000 215.000 [B]13.9%[/B]KillerMan91
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I still think that if Nintendo had gone with just safest route that is Wii with better specs (So Wii 2) they would be doing a lot better. One teraflop machine with 299$ price tag year earlier than the other consoles and there would have been more early adopters ( and some incentive to publishers port next gen games for it). Instead they went with that tablet controller and bizarre low wattage tech that costs so much to use that they are losing money with 299$ price without having major advantage over last gen consoles in terms of graphics. WiiU is just so poorly engineered.
opticalmace
Member
The dashed lines in the background?
Katana_Strikes
Member
I knew WiiU and Mario was going to perform bad after Reggie's reaction on the VGX to Geoff/Joels questioning. Not that it would take a genius to not expect bad numbers. Can't believe people were expecting 300-400k+ numbers. Was never going to happen out of nowhere. December will be utterly tragic too and I don't even want to know how bad January will be.
You shouldn't have to buy mediocre and rather expensive HW just for one or more games. I'll never understand what exclusivity does to a game that makes it so much better than any other.
I think the problem is also partly 3D World which is why I think Mario Kart and Smash will also underperform unless those turn out to be (and manage to market themselves as) something very different. As an example Pikmin 3 did ok in Japan for example and pushed a decent amount of HW.
Father_Brain
Banned
As a longtime Nintendo fan, I probably shouldn't be enjoying this so much... but sometimes you just want to watch it all burn.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Wow, then this is pretty bad then by all accounts. Wonder if there will be some type of shakeup at Nintendo?
this gets really old
equippedwithtowel
Member
Which is why 3Dworld and NSMB2 bombed.
The WiiU is fundamentally an unattractive hardware to the core audience and the casual audience.
One or more?
I buy every hardware for one or more games. That's what it does, it plays games.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
More like Nintendoland amirite?
Why would it not work?
And what does it matter if none of us want it? If we're talking strictly from a shareholder's point of view I think Nintendo investing in the mobile market is a great idea.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I find amusing how this is being ignored. Numbers may seem good on a first look, but they aren't considering all things. Mobile menace is real and is here sooner than most thought.
anexanhume
Member
No, actually it's the worst selling.
The ratios you did show you how many consoles were sold per how many copies of the game were sold. That means for every copy of SM3DW, there's 7.2 Wii U's. That's 6.2 Wii U owners that don't have the game per copy. Compare that to the Wii, where only just over 4 Wii owners didn't have SMG at its time of launch.
As of September, 2013, the console sold (not sure if to retailers or customers) 3.91 million worldwide. Somebody with more information can probably figure out how many have been sold since.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/historical_data/pdf/consolidated_sales_e1309.pdf
The One and Done
Member
Yes enjoy your PC gaming, says 1 percent of gamers (yes I'm exaggerating). I'll be busy with Killer instinct, Assassins Creed 4, NBA 2k14, Ryse, Killzone, Knack, and Battlefield and Dead Rising. What a piss poor launch lineup that over 4 million people seem to want huh? Lol
Version 3.0
Member
"Fastest selling for the month" is a pretty clever PR spin from Microsoft. But now I wonder how many PS4's were sold in its first 9 days.
I hate to say it but it sucks to be Nintendo right now.
I mean what can you really do??
Playing me too this gen and trying to rush out a on-par system to the ps4/xbone which will undoubtedly either be barren with first party titles or see them rushed due to the switch seems like a fools gamble. People are likely to just ignore the system the same as wiiU. PS4 and bone will already have a huge lead and primary developer support.
Do you just drag this systems death crawl out for a few more years while risking further damage to your brand while you restructure?
Do you exit the console business for this gen after next year and try again in a few years trying to spearhead nextgen? Can you even afford that? Probably not.
Build a 3DS successor thats also a console hybrid?
Try and jump on the Occullus rift bandwagon and build a new console around that?
I mean honestly talk about the war chest all you want but I just don't know what they realistically do even if they spend all of that money.
I mean what can you really do??
Playing me too this gen and trying to rush out a on-par system to the ps4/xbone which will undoubtedly either be barren with first party titles or see them rushed due to the switch seems like a fools gamble. People are likely to just ignore the system the same as wiiU. PS4 and bone will already have a huge lead and primary developer support.
Do you just drag this systems death crawl out for a few more years while risking further damage to your brand while you restructure?
Do you exit the console business for this gen after next year and try again in a few years trying to spearhead nextgen? Can you even afford that? Probably not.
Build a 3DS successor thats also a console hybrid?
Try and jump on the Occullus rift bandwagon and build a new console around that?
I mean honestly talk about the war chest all you want but I just don't know what they realistically do even if they spend all of that money.
FreedomFighter
Member
Do it again using this song. I swear people will cry.
Castef
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Sir Alemeth
Member
I never thought I'd say this, but Nintendo is DONE in the console business. Doesn't matter how much power or gimmicks they add to their next console, they're going to be irrelevant next to the PS5 or next Xbox and sales will continue to decline.
Nintendo sells to the core fans(aside from the Wii which attracted a lot of casuals), and that fan base is shrinking by the year. Unless they come up with a really really good idea, I don't ever see them relevant again in the console business.
Their handheld dominance is in jeopardy too with the recent surge in cell phone/tablet games.
RIP.
Nintendo sells to the core fans(aside from the Wii which attracted a lot of casuals), and that fan base is shrinking by the year. Unless they come up with a really really good idea, I don't ever see them relevant again in the console business.
Their handheld dominance is in jeopardy too with the recent surge in cell phone/tablet games.
RIP.
We're just getting NA numbers today, not worldwide.
Chance Hale
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Fenderputty
Banned
Nintendo caught fire in a bottle using motion
controls and casuals with the Wii. It seems like they waned to catch the core audience again with the WiiU at first, but floundered with an expensive gimmick controller and an underpowered system. In the end they target no one IMO. The hardcore audience is by and large ignoring the console because of the above and the casuals of last gen are either on cell phones or still playing Wii's.
I personally hope they call it quits and go 3rd party. The sooner the better. I would love Mario ps4
controls and casuals with the Wii. It seems like they waned to catch the core audience again with the WiiU at first, but floundered with an expensive gimmick controller and an underpowered system. In the end they target no one IMO. The hardcore audience is by and large ignoring the console because of the above and the casuals of last gen are either on cell phones or still playing Wii's.
I personally hope they call it quits and go 3rd party. The sooner the better. I would love Mario ps4