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[Racer1977]

Yup, the X1 and PS4 both having an even amount of days to shine in December will be the bigger NPD than this month's mellow November NPD.

December's NPD will be no different to November, it will tell us how many consoles each company shipped to NA.

By all accounts, Sony started production a month earlier, they are producing as many consoles as MS, at the least. We also know a not insignificant portion of stock in mainland Europe is still on shelves.

What will be telling is worldwide sales.

Monday will be a full two weeks since Sony revealed their 2.1m number, indications are they can supply 100k consoles per day, that would be an additional 1.4m. Even with a high margin of era, it's fair to say Sony should have topped 3m by now with relative ease. I also understand there are some Asian launches this weekend too, therefore consoles will have been stockpiled for that.

The interesting question is whether Sony's next sales update will trumpet the 3m sales threshold being broken, or whether they think 4m is possible before the New Year.

 

[Exokell]

how much did knack sell?

 

[blackflag]

Ps4 better get some consoles out. That's my take away. People want them but how long will they wait while Xbones are sitting there on the shelf?

 

[brandonh83]

3D World is nice but it's a DS game not the next evolution of Mario.

This still?

 

[Warm Machine]

What is the LTD for the WiiU now?

 

[Riki]

I'm eager to see how the Nintendo investors react at the next investor meeting.

They didn't even act rational during Wii's golden years.

 

[Jacan]

I gotta laugh at Major Nelson

That guy´s spin on the sales is funny and what an embarrassment for Microsoft to have such a guy on their payroll.

100k X1
1m Ps4

But X1 is the fastest selling console in NA LOL

 

[Joeki11a]

Nintendo probably got calls from Apple today

 

[TheChits]

I'm very interested to see how Nintendo handles the Wii U situation

 

[Plinko]

That's what people said about Wii U and look how that turned out.

If you think the Wii U is noticeably more powerful than 360/PS3, I suggest you buy some glasses. It's clearly not.

Nintendo released a console that's not much more powerful than six year old consoles with a shitty OS, a disappointing account/online system and a laughable VC library. What you're hoping for is - I'm sorry - delusional, it's a dream.

I don't have any faith in them to ever do it--especially under the current leadership. I just think it's their ONLY available avenue to become a player again in the console market.

 

[ffdgh]

So when is Nintendo's 9m financial estimate due again? =/

Iirc march. It's not happening.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

Mr. Pachter was off by ~30k. The scorekeepers can factor that into their Excel spreadsheets now.

 

[nckillthegrimace]

That's perhaps the best news of this. And I LIKED 3D World. But it was no Galaxy

Yeah, I thought it was a very good game, but two games is really enough of that. It's not like Galaxy where they could churn out a dozen more of those and I'd still be reasonably happy.

 

[Cow Goes Moo]

Live Reaction to NPD thread on NeoGAF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWUQl5-6_Uw

lol, poor thing

 

[SenjutsuSage]

The Wii-U numbers simply don't look promising, but I think they will be fine and get past this. Don't troll me, but I think they will be okay. I have to imagine they're making a profit on the hardware sold at the very least, right?

 

[NotLiquid]

The worst part is they really can't do much with the Wii U right now. Unless Nintendo can conjure a miraculous Wii Sports-caliber lightning in a bottle it's doomed to low-ball for the rest of it's console cycle with no third party support and only first party Nintendo games. It's in that awkward moment where it feels too premature to kill it but there's no point in actually developing things for it.

I really don't know how this console could fuck up so badly, I really don't. It pains me to say this cause I fucking love my Wii U and have gotten some of my best enjoyment in gaming out of it but this thing is practically on it's last legs after only a year into it's life cycle.

 

[jcracken]

tons?

There's a thread on GAF that a bunch of RetailGAF posted in regarding availability of the X1 and PS4. Basically there's a shitton of demand for PS4 but most outlets are getting very few shipments while with X1 there's moderate demand and MS is sending out lots of shipments (most people said once every two weeks or so).

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=729859

 

[Maxrunner]

That's what people said about Wii U and look how that turned out.



Nintendo released a console that's not much more powerful than six year old consoles with a shitty OS, a disappointing account/online system and a laughable VC library. What you're hoping for is - I'm sorry - delusional, it's a dream.

Not this again, power has nothing do it....it's a brand problem...

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Sony sold more PS4s in 12 hours than WiiU did the entire month.

Spoiler

Maybe not, but still...

Errr?
No shit, Sherlock.

 

[Chinpoko_Master]

God damn, the Wii U is a FLOP lmao.

 

[Alchemist]

Can't wait for the post Christmas Wii U fire sale.

 

[Square2015]

Updated my graph

 

[shinra-bansho]

Gap's probably going to widen even further in December.

 

[Levyne]

The only positive news I can take as a fan of some Nintendo series (not Mario)...is that

A.) We shouldn't see Mario, outside of Kart, for a long time.
B.) Hopefully major changes and shake up at Nintendo.

 

[def sim]

Why? Shouldn't we be encouraging platform neutrality?

Sure. My wanting of any first party game in there is to have a more interesting list than the norm.

It's a surprisingly boring November is all.

 

[Zaph]

What kind of message does this send 3rd parties?

You're assuming third parties are even still listening for a message.

 

[Majmun]

Sony hasn't released any sales PR because they're trying to hire Major Nelson to spin their Vita numbers.

Very interested in PS3 numbers myself

 

[cafemomo]

Iwata is done.

 

[timlot]

Wait why will they still get 0 3rd party support if they release a console that is on par with the PS4 and Xbox One? If it's basically similar hardware architecture, it will be a negligible cost for 3rd parties to port. There's no reason why they wouldn't support it.

I know I would pick one up if they did. I still have a soft spot for Nintendo just need to make powerful hardware.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Attach rate means nothing when the hardware number is so low which results in the sale total of the game being horrible. That is what matters to Nintendo.

LOL Do you realize what you just posted?

 

[narton]

Mr. Pachter was off by ~30k. The scorekeepers can factor that into their Excel spreadsheets now.

Isn't he off by 70k?

 

[CheDominik]

Pretty much. If he had that average as a baseball player, he'd be traded, sent to the farm leagues, or just plain let go.

Seems like a great job if you can get it.

We all now batting average is a highly flawed stat, what's his WAR(Wii Us above replacement)though?

 

[PhoenixDawn]

Updated my graph

Wii U ahead of Dreamcast.* Console is saved for sure!

*(in monthly sales for this specific november)

 

[FTF]

At least I can look forward to picking up a WiiU 3D world bundle for $199 in a few months :/

 

[rockx4]

Wow horrid Wii U numbers... but Cranky Kong will save it. 3DS is a bit lower than I expected too. I figured it would make it to 1m.

 

[VanWinkle]

Part of me thinks, PLEASE get new management over at Nintendo! And then another part of me is scared that the new management would make them even worse, lol. I want a management team where Western side is just as important as the Japanese side, and online play/features/functionality is hugely important. BECAUSE IT IS! AND THEY'RE IGNORING THAT! It's frustrating as a fan of both Nintendo and the Wii U.

 

[Nibiru]

I just bought a Wii U lol.

3D World is nice but it's a DS game not the next evolution of Mario.

Stop trolling.

 

[Plinko]

Iwata is done.

I will be shocked if he's around at E3.

No, wait, this is Nintendo. I'll be shocked if he's fired by E3 2018.

 

[Manmademan]

The Wii-U numbers simply don't look promising, but I think they will be fine and get past this. Don't troll me, but I think they will be okay. I have to imagine they're making a profit on the hardware sold at the very least, right?

They're taking a loss on the WiiU, after dropping the price on the premium system.

it's fucked.

 

[TetraGenesis]

Live Reaction to NPD thread on NeoGAF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWUQl5-6_Uw

Hahahaha, bravo. I hope you get a tag out of this.

 

[Yawnier]

Updated my graph

Dreamcast and Wii U: FIGHT!

Spoiler

It's hard to believe things have gotten this bad for the poor console.

 

[blackflag]

I gotta laugh at Major Nelson

That guy´s spin on the sales is funny and what an embarrassment for Microsoft to have such a guy on their payroll.

100k X1
1m Ps4

But X1 is the fastest selling console in NA LOL

Embarrassment for them? It's what he's paid to do....

 

[stonesak]

It's still awake. At least have the decency to do it while it's asleep.

It was in a vegetative state. With a DNR.

 

[Toki767]

The Wii-U numbers simply don't look promising, but I think they will be fine and get past this. Don't troll me, but I think they will be okay. I have to imagine they're making a profit on the hardware sold at the very least, right?

I actually don't think they are.

 

[ItIsOkBro]

Is Mario's run over?

 

[FreedomFighter]

Live Reaction to NPD thread on NeoGAF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWUQl5-6_Uw

OMG!!!

 

[AndrewDean84xX]

How do we know it "kicked the Vita's ass"? We know absolutely nothing about Vita sales for Novemeber.

Look back a few pages. It was said the Wii U kicked the Vitas ass with poor numbers.

 

[Steel]

So let's say, hypothetically, you have stock in Nintendo right now.

What do you do with it?

Hedge your bets by short selling. That'd be me anyway.

 

[Usobuko]

A more up to date system, power wise, for Nintendo next console meant nothing for third party. Look at the Wii U and see how much 3rd party games it is getting from PS360 in 2013-2014. I don't know how Nintendo can solve this but I sure hope they do find a new ground.

 

[Joeki11a]

Wait whats this "best console sales in gaming history" talk?.

If MS dis 909k, those that mean PS4 did 1.5m, 2.m????