Now this would be a pump worth pumping.
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GAMEPUMP - Service cancelled, everyone refunded + 2 bonus apology games
- Thread starter Ryo Hazuki
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Now this would be a pump worth pumping.
I mean, you can fight this all you want but in the end you will either get the games or get a refund. Sometimes certain fights aren't worth having imo
and as far as friends being on Steam, I highly doubt ANY of these games will have online multiplayer support. Local at most.
Not sure if the overlay will work, but yeah gog versions are DRM free so you'd be able to link the .exe easily and even make your own banner if that matters to you
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I think it's fine for people to be peeved because they prefer Steam versions (achievements, cards, +1, whatever logic they use)--but my thing is that I don't think this move makes there less likely to be Steam versions or really changes anything about them. Let's say they never resolve the Greenlight issue and every Steam key comes 3-4 weeks later than the GOG key.
Okay, and? So your March to March subscription functionally becomes April to April or your July to July subscription becomes August to August? You're still getting the same games and features, you're still presumably getting pretty comparable resale value on the keys. I guess it's annoying to get the email saying that Yoshi's Safari is the game of the month and have to wait a few weeks, but you'll get it in the end. I don't think there's any real credible fear that something won't get through GL. And that's the worst case scenario.
Okay, and? So your March to March subscription functionally becomes April to April or your July to July subscription becomes August to August? You're still getting the same games and features, you're still presumably getting pretty comparable resale value on the keys. I guess it's annoying to get the email saying that Yoshi's Safari is the game of the month and have to wait a few weeks, but you'll get it in the end. I don't think there's any real credible fear that something won't get through GL. And that's the worst case scenario.
ScientificPizza
Banned
Nah, they're becoming a publisher. This is just the process for small new publishers on steam.
There is still no exact process to becoming a publisher and anyone banking on it happening at a specific time, especially from game 1, is extremely naive.
ScientificPizza
Banned
I'm not saying it isn't, but no one should have the assumption that every game is going to have to be greenlit either
It's not about multiplayer, it's about: achievements, cards, increasing exp on badges, having steam cards (which in turn make me earn money by selling cards and save on future purchases), being able to do screens and save them to my steam account for my friends, being able to use steam overlay, having chat my friends easily without external programs, having access to a discussion board on the game easily, not having further programs (which I wouldn't use) installed on my laptop cluttering it, using big picture, sharing my activity with my friends on steam, and a lot of other things. I mean just with cards by trading them I make quite some money, something that I don't have with other programs.
Does anybody know if the steam overlay works for all non-steam games? At least having the steam overlay wouldn't make it too bad, even if it's missing the other things. I've never used it on non-steam games.
Let's hope they answer the message I sent them (to Gamepump) asking for clarifications. I tried asking if it is certain that every game will be greenlit eventually, and how long it would be. I mean is there a risk that games won't be greenlit? Also having to wait 1-2 months between steam and GOG is not a problem for me (but it would be probably for my friends), but if it's 6-9 months of wait, then it's not not ok. Also what happens if I choose to receive only steam keys, and one of the games is not greenlit in 5-6 months, will I receive another game or be partially refunded? Or will I have to forfeit that game? I wish they would explain that in their email.
Ok, then it's not too bad as long as the overlay does work. I've never used it on non-steam games so I didn't know. If it works, then it's ok. Will still suck for the lack of all other features, but at least it's not too bad.
Yeah, there really isn't. The upvotes from subscribers alone would be enough for the games to make the cut. You'd just be looking at a timeframe better measured in weeks (i.e. being processed as part of a batch, as Voodoo Vince was) than days (i.e. being hand-picked, as Crawl was).
Stuggernaut
Grandma's Chippy
Anyone heard any updates on this in the last couple of days?
illusionary
Member
I'm guessing that we'll not hear anything more until Lit arrives.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
The last update was:
"This delay could be as short as three weeks (by the end of Jan) or as long as a month (early March), we are working to get it shippable as soon as possible."
So we are about a week and a half away from the shortest part of that delay interval.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Refunded mine. This isn't how you launch a service
Wasn't that statement referred to the first official game release? Lit, and the other bonus game were being made available to cover for that lost time. At least, that's how I understood it.
EdReedFan20
Member
The pricing for this service is odd and makes little sense. Once that 12-month deal expires, there's no incentive for anyone to subscribe more than one month at a time. One month is $5, 3 months is $15 (that's $5 per month), 12 months is $60 (that's $5 per month). Most subscription services allow for better value the longer your subscription is. For instance, PlayStation Now is $20 per month, $45 per 3 months (making it essentially $15 per month), and (when it's available) $99 per year (making it essentially $8.33 per month).
It was cheaper before, but I guess they left all the plans up for some reason when they PUMPed up the prices. If you subbed for all 12 months before a certain date, it was $20. I forget what the 3 month sub was during the deal window.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I'm still in.
I say you don't go for it if that's how you're thinking about it. Without saying too much this isn't a bundle service.
I say you don't go for it if that's how you're thinking about it. Without saying too much this isn't a bundle service.
I don't think the pricing is a bad deal at all, but it definitely feels disappointing to see that the service is totally unmanned and there's zero effort put towards building any sort of community and supporting it with communication. Just one guy out there making some deals and putting up a barebones site with "take it or leave it" as a business pitch. Lol.
EdReedFan20
Member
I know. That's why I mentioned the 12 month deal. With that expired, there's really no reason to subscribe on a month to month basis. You're not gaining anything by locking in to a 12 month subscription. If you do the 12 month subscription, you're paying $60. If you do 12 of the 1 month subscriptions, you're paying $60.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I think for Lit they are going through WayForward. Not sure about the next games.
metsallica
Member
Where was this said?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
In the discussion immediately following the delay, they noted that Lit will be a brand new version of the game based on the mobile game's art style with extra levels and characters.
metsallica
Member
Ah. Missed that, thanks. That version was fun, but it's a bit of a shame.
NoFaceNico
Member
If the first game isn't out by this weekend, then I'm out. So far we have Lit, which I have no interest in, and a tease for a Dizzy game which is a series I never liked.
I signed up hoping to get classic PC or N64/3DO/Saturn games that have never been on Steam but I don't see that happening. Part of me is holding out for something good but I'm losing faith that they'll be able to get anything good locked down when the service is being managed like this. It feels like they'll just be going down a list of desperate old IP holders rather than courting those rare forgotten gems.
I signed up hoping to get classic PC or N64/3DO/Saturn games that have never been on Steam but I don't see that happening. Part of me is holding out for something good but I'm losing faith that they'll be able to get anything good locked down when the service is being managed like this. It feels like they'll just be going down a list of desperate old IP holders rather than courting those rare forgotten gems.
Just asked for a refund. This is really a shame. I subscribed over 2 months ago for the 12 month/1 year deal and barely got any communication from them. I sent multiple messages asking for more information and about this whole gog/steam deal, (since it was advertised for steam and not GOG and I've no interest on games for GOG) and they didn't even bother to answer to the messages I sent them.
There is still no account system, something they promised for a long time. And still no news about the bonus games to make up for the delay (they were supposed to be released/sent keys about this time). This is one of the most unprofessional/amauterish service I've ever subscribed. I waited a few weeks (since the delay) to give them time for the at least one of the bonus game and the account system, but neither of them has appeared nor sent any communication. I would have trusted them more and stick with it if at least the account system was in place, instead nothing (not even an email). No account system and no bonus game. They lost all my trust and I'm out. Let's hope at least they give back the money and actually refund in reasonable times.
Edit: plus the whole super-deal 20$ is still in place, which was supposed to be changed to 60$. instead I still see it 20$ on the web site. I preordered thinking it was a limited time thing, instead they didn't even bother to update it.
There is still no account system, something they promised for a long time. And still no news about the bonus games to make up for the delay (they were supposed to be released/sent keys about this time). This is one of the most unprofessional/amauterish service I've ever subscribed. I waited a few weeks (since the delay) to give them time for the at least one of the bonus game and the account system, but neither of them has appeared nor sent any communication. I would have trusted them more and stick with it if at least the account system was in place, instead nothing (not even an email). No account system and no bonus game. They lost all my trust and I'm out. Let's hope at least they give back the money and actually refund in reasonable times.
Edit: plus the whole super-deal 20$ is still in place, which was supposed to be changed to 60$. instead I still see it 20$ on the web site. I preordered thinking it was a limited time thing, instead they didn't even bother to update it.
Ryo Hazuki
Member
Not sure why people would be bothered about it still being $20, isn't that good for people who still want to jump in? Also thought they said it will remain that price until the first game is released and since nothing has been released yet they're probably keeping it up until then.
Did anyone get a refund? How long did it take? did they send you a confirmation email or anything to acknowledge the refund request? I'm starting to get worried. I filled in the form for refunds but got no reply from them (not even an automatic reply/answer, which is odd since autoresponder are usually pretty standard). I'm starting to get worried that they will not answer.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Erm, it is a limited offer--as they said from the beginning, it was limited until they launch the service. The service isn't launched yet. Once they launch the service, that offer will no longer be available.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
I requested the refund and got it pretty quickly - I think they send an email and the next time I looked in my Paypal the money was there.
I guess it could be delayed eternally then?
Yeah, just received an email. But mine is by Credit card, not paypal so I guess it might take a bit longer to appear on my bank.
Wok
Member
Technically, it could, but let us be real for a second: unless it is a scam, the service is bound to be launched at one point in time this semester.
NoFaceNico
Member
I went to the site today to see if there was a link for a refund and it seems like things are about to start moving soon.
No more preorder special. I want a refund now but I'll give them another weekend. If it's not delivered by the time I get back from PAX South, I'll email them for a refund.
I still haven't got my refund. i received their confirmation email (for the refund) on the 19. Still nothing, my credit card hasn't been refunded with the money. How long do you think it takes for credit card refund? (I'm from EU if that matters) I should have paid by paypal, instead of credit card (it seems refund are much easier/quicker through paypal).
I'm going to write to them, because I still haven't got my money back. This launch was really a mess, no communications, delay (after waiting for months from initial preorder) was told the day of launch, no steam (after being advertised as a steam Keys subscription service) unless you are willing to wait for greenlight (who knows how long it would take, maybe you would receive them many months later than GOG; they haven't even started to put games on greenlight). And still no account system (which they promised a long time ago). And now the refund is taking so many days to appear. Never gonna buy/subscribe from them anymore in the future and I'm gonna advise all my friends to not subscribe.
I'm going to write to them, because I still haven't got my money back. This launch was really a mess, no communications, delay (after waiting for months from initial preorder) was told the day of launch, no steam (after being advertised as a steam Keys subscription service) unless you are willing to wait for greenlight (who knows how long it would take, maybe you would receive them many months later than GOG; they haven't even started to put games on greenlight). And still no account system (which they promised a long time ago). And now the refund is taking so many days to appear. Never gonna buy/subscribe from them anymore in the future and I'm gonna advise all my friends to not subscribe.