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Media Create Sales: 02/02 - 02/08
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Captain Smoker
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Nice, thx bttb. 
I dont know how many copies they would need to sell.. but considering that the Wii has about the same installbase as PS3 and 360 combined i dont see how it is a surefire flop..Jonnyram said:
it will be a risk to port the game sure.. but i do think that they can sell a few more copies by porting it for sure..
Tatsunoko vs Capcom Wii sold about 25k copies first week, and if that data that showed up earlier is true, it has 46k LTD. For a VS fighter with little hype, that's pretty solid. I'd say that a big name as Street Fighter 4 could've at least matched the 360 version's sales in Japan. Heck, even Tatsunoko itself almost managed that.
I'm fairly confident that is not true, but I don't have any numbers to back me up.farnham said:
We're talking about Japan. RE4 and Mario & Sonic are the only games you mentioned that even registered.pickwick said:
Monster Hunter will no doubt sell well. But how well? Who can say.
Captain Smoker
Member
It has already 4.920.000 units (as of 02/08/2009). xDbcn-ron said:
Dascu said:
If we start using Another Code as evidence of Wii software flops then that opens the door to a whole lot of Wii software successes.
Some 3rd party games have had a lot of trouble, but let's not get too carried away with bemoaning Wii software sales in general.
I think it's a case of trying to shoehorn games made for traditional control schemes or software that's just not suited for home consoles in the first place. Lets face it fighters using the Wiimote aren't the systems strong point and I was surprised that Another Code was announced for Wii at all. Games that have been designed from the ground up for the Wii from concept to release have generally done pretty well if they've had at least a little effort put into them.schuelma said:
I don't believe this bullshit that Nintendo like quality is untouchable. They're are good but not that good. It's mainly their software planning in that they know what console they are making games for that gives them an advantage.
I expected a lot more from Tenchu.
The other Tenchu game on PSP did far more, though I'm going by first week numbers.
I don't think this will really have legs that great though.
It's still better than the Wii version, but that's definitely still a big disappointment.
Street Fighter IV numbers are not that bad.
50% and 65% sell through is pretty good for first day.
The other Tenchu game on PSP did far more, though I'm going by first week numbers.
I don't think this will really have legs that great though.
It's still better than the Wii version, but that's definitely still a big disappointment.
Street Fighter IV numbers are not that bad.
50% and 65% sell through is pretty good for first day.
compared to the investment i dont think the wii market has been so bad to thirdparties in japan..Jonnyram said:
Weisheit said:
plus this.. PS3 or 360 have not been any thirdparty juggernauts as well.. you could say 360 had solid sales compared to their installbase.. but that does not help capcom raking in the profits.. same with the ps3..
we are talking about japan though..pickwick said:
i think only a few thirdparty games sold really well.. (taiko and DQS)
in the westernmarket the wii situation is pretty good as the overall softwaresales are starting to overtake the HD games sales
Resident Evil 4 (PlayStation 2): 454,979
Resident Evil 4 (PlayStation 2 The Best, 2006): 148,868
Resident Evil 4 (PlayStation 2 The Best, 2008): 47,603
Resident Evil 4 (GameCube): 220,799
Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition: 136,344
Total: 1,008,593
BIOHAZARD 4 SURPASSES 1 MILLION IN JAPAN!
First Biohazard since Biohazard 3 to surpass the million mark, and the fourth in the series overall.
Resident Evil 4 (PlayStation 2 The Best, 2006): 148,868
Resident Evil 4 (PlayStation 2 The Best, 2008): 47,603
Resident Evil 4 (GameCube): 220,799
Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition: 136,344
Total: 1,008,593
BIOHAZARD 4 SURPASSES 1 MILLION IN JAPAN!
First Biohazard since Biohazard 3 to surpass the million mark, and the fourth in the series overall.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Famitsu Software Stuff
Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology 2 has a pretty great first week. It alone puts it just shy of being the top Tales of the World title.
It's also the biggest first week any Tales game has had since late 2006's Tales of Destiny PS2 remake.
The DS (3416) and Wii (3418) versions of Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time do not exactly hold up well compared to the previous GCN (1203) and DS (147) games in the series.
In the last five months, three Soul Eater games have been released. Monotone Princess for Wii, Plot of Medusa for DS, and now Battle Resonance for PSP. They've all had pretty low first weeks, and the first two didn't chart their second week. Seems pretty doubtful this new one will buck the trend.
With PSP games taking the top two spots for the week, total PSP software sales passed DS software sales for the week. The last time DS wasn't the top software platform of the week was last April, when Mario Kart Wii launched.
Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology 2 has a pretty great first week. It alone puts it just shy of being the top Tales of the World title.
It's also the biggest first week any Tales game has had since late 2006's Tales of Destiny PS2 remake.
The DS (3416) and Wii (3418) versions of Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time do not exactly hold up well compared to the previous GCN (1203) and DS (147) games in the series.
In the last five months, three Soul Eater games have been released. Monotone Princess for Wii, Plot of Medusa for DS, and now Battle Resonance for PSP. They've all had pretty low first weeks, and the first two didn't chart their second week. Seems pretty doubtful this new one will buck the trend.
With PSP games taking the top two spots for the week, total PSP software sales passed DS software sales for the week. The last time DS wasn't the top software platform of the week was last April, when Mario Kart Wii launched.
JoshuaJSlone said:
Cool. :lol I was curious what I could pull out of my database for this Famitsu week and for January as far as percentages/numbers. For this week, I got an even higher PSP percentage (43.3%) than the full Famitsu numbers which makes sense due to the sheer numbers of DS games available that would still be selling something below #30. What's particular interesting to me is that the PSP software total for the week from my database is 374K. For all of January, the PSP software total in my database was 413K. Quite a bump for this one week!
Eteric Rice
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I think one big problem is the recession over there (almost a depression I hear). Less money for people to spend on luxury items means when they can buy a luxury item, they'll buy the best of the best (high budget) games instead of the risky stuff.
Whoa look at that Tenchu sold poorly on another platform too, so much for it just being the Wii's fault the game did not do well.
SFIV sales are nothing super wow either, and people should not be comparing it to TvsC because SFIV hype was bordering on ridiculous all over the world.
What is the best selling fighting game "this gen" in JP?
SFIV sales are nothing super wow either, and people should not be comparing it to TvsC because SFIV hype was bordering on ridiculous all over the world.
What is the best selling fighting game "this gen" in JP?
Grampa Simpson
Banned
The bubble bursting in the late 80's over there is also likely fresh in the minds of many. They already know how to scrimp and save when a recession is in progress.Eteric Rice said:
SilverLunar
Member
markatisu said:
1,747,113
I for one don't have any problems with games like Taiko selling well on wii and welcome such software. Makes me wonder how Let's Tap failed so badly.
Looks like Tenchu 4 may have to do it's sell elsewhere. Perhaps the wii/psp port thing isn't going to work out or maybe they'll just make Tenchu 5 for NA/EU.
Looks like Tenchu 4 may have to do it's sell elsewhere. Perhaps the wii/psp port thing isn't going to work out or maybe they'll just make Tenchu 5 for NA/EU.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
I was going from memory of the usual 2ch leak, but I can't find it now. Anyway the sinobi blurb is translated wrong, he says bleach and tenchu did less than 10k.Jokeropia said:
http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-10155821668.html
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
45k for Tatsunoko vs Capcom is not bad at all, considering the game costs more today than on release day.
test_account
XP-39C²
What is the reason for the increased price?Dash Kappei said:
JoshuaJSlone
Member
SilverLunar said:
1,747,113
Yes. If he wants one-on-one fighters across X360/PS3/Wii, though, I think these are the ones which at least hit 100K across platforms.Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit PS3 - 163,010
Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit X360 - 25,051
Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 Wii - 165,969
Soul Calibur IV PS3 - 109,318
Soul Calibur IV X360 - 53,403
Virtua Fighter V PS3 - 97,321
Virtua Fighter V X360 - 23,776
Dead or Alive 4 X360 - 108,618
There's also this, but I think it's four-player:
Naruto Shippuuden: Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX Wii - 109,971
I know nothing of the situation, but I guess the implication is that demand is higher than supply.test_account said:
shykyoichi
Member
JoshuaJSlone said:
Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit PS3 - 163,010
Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit X360 - 25,051
Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 Wii - 165,969
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There's also this, but I think it's four-player:
Naruto Shippuuden: Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX Wii - 109,971
I know nothing of the situation, but I guess the implication is that demand is higher than supply.
How about Bleach games? And does that mean that DBZ gamers have shifted to the Wii?
test_account
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Ye, that might beJoshuaJSlone said:
By the way, how much did it go up in price, i forgot to ask abou that earlier.EDIT: I added some text. I am sorry for the very late edit :\
shykyoichi
Member
cw_sasuke said:
Isn't that partly due to oversaturation of DBZ games? Isn't there like 3 already?
thestopsign
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Dash Kappei said:
Where'd you get that number?
Dash Kappei said:
The game is in stock and cost the same as the typical wii third party game in amazon.jp
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B001G8XR6Y/
Are you talking about import stores?
Dash Kappei said:
I haven't seen any price increases on this game in retail or online. At least not in Japan. Maybe for import stores.
Then again it didn't price collapse either which is what a lot of people thought would happen after first week sales were announced.
Seems Capcom shipped the right amount.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Here are Bleach games. There are none on current-gen home consoles, but among 16 GBA/DS/PSP/PS2/GCN releases it looks like only "Bleach DS 2nd: Kokui Hirameku Requiem" passed 100K, reaching 118K by the end of 2007.shykyoichi said:
It's not really clear they've shifted anywhere in particular. Burst Limit PS3 and near-launch Budokai Tenkaichi 2 Wii did similar numbers, but then BT3 for Wii did less 10 months later. The biggest DBZ game from the beginning of 2007 to present is the PS2 version of Budokai Tenkaichi 3.
These look like they have a bit of... small legs, though. So it's kind of hard to get an idea of how they perform long run until way after the fact. When we get the 2008 Top 500 in mid-2009, we'll probably have a better idea of how the 2007 releases ended up. Then maybe in summer 2010 we'll see how the 2008 releases did. :lol
For example, we talk about Wii BT3 doing worse than Wii BT2, but really the period we have for both is pretty similar. Without updates it's hard to say whether it flatlined or continued up.
Cygnus X-1
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bttb said:
Cosmonaut X
Member
Linkup said:
Taiko is a relatively big name; Let's Tap is not.
Taiko appears to have a reasonably good ad push; Let's Tap did not.
I suspect that those two things broadly account for the disparity in sales.
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
Loudninja said:
Street Fighter IV met Capcom's expectations (50% or more sell through for both versions). Remember this isn't the 90's anymore and fighters in Japan are geared toward the arcade market (in which Street Fighter IV seems to not have blown up in so far).
Also to note North America is Capcom's primary target for this game, let's wait until the next NPD before we make any judgements.
jj984jj said:
Pretty much. 2k extra on a far bigger userbase (compared to the Wii then to now) is at least an indication. Then again the Wii version probably received more "hype" from being the first time it premiered, then again besides the userbase difference, when you are dealing with 10k or lower difference in sales (especially something as minor as 2k) really doesn't seem to close or open any doors.
Again people games usually sell bad because they aren't marketed correctly not because of the userbase.
Tron 2.0 said:
3rd party games aren't selling particularly well on anything in Japan.
Yes I admit there are exceptions like Tales of Radiant or Taiko's Drum Game for the Wii but these are nearly becoming few and far inbetween.
Tenchu IV sold nearly the exact same on both the Wii and the PSP despite the userbase difference during the time of release.
The blockbuster 360 games light the charts for the first week, then drastically decline the second, then disappear (though this is easy to understand why).
And the Playstation 3 has definitely had it's far share of underperformers and flops.
As I've said before this isn't a "Wii" or "Nintendo" thing this is a "Japanese gaming market" thing.
Dascu said:
While I agree that it showed some legs that isn't really anything to trot on about. I do admit that it didn't "bomb" as it hasn't price collapsed and that Capcom put so little budget and push into marketing but I wouldn't be so quick to call the numbers "solid" as more as it performed "moderately well".
Something interesting I didn't know about Tenchu IV is that the game is broken into linear sub-sections with a few enemies and it's not an "open ended" game like the previous Tenchu's. It's more like a Manhunt (killing ninjas in corridors) than a Tenchu.
Maybe this has something to do with the low sales of the Wii/PSP versions?
Maybe this has something to do with the low sales of the Wii/PSP versions?