Well then, that's sexist. And don't come with the "but most men are like this", you can't tar them all up with the same brush. Jeez, every time I read this I don't fail to scoff.
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Playboy: Millenials are less interested in breasts than older generations
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I think they were trying to drive the point that anything and everything is debated about around here.
Correct this is a better way to explain that
PdotMichael
Banned
That's the point.
captainpat
Member
If only Oda read this and stop making oversized breasts
Why? The dude's a boobie lover.
RedHoodedOwl
Member
If only Oda read this and stop making oversized breasts
Nico Robin deserves better than being a sentient blow up doll.
Messofanego
Banned
Laiza said not as often, not that it's never discussed among women. If it was as frequent, then sure it could be seen as stupid too. Among guys, gotta admit that it can be overwhelming of how often and loud this discussion about body part preferences gets.
There's this assumption that's made of this forum and of online interactions, that it's 99% straight males so it becomes "locker room talk". Us straight males don't even realise that all kinds of other people are reading and wincing at the cringe.
The Sum of Zero
Member
Add garterbelts and hnng.
tearsintherain
Member
Most guys will never, ever, ever, ever, ever tire of talking about three things:
1. ass vs boobs
2. Darth Vader vs. Batman
3. If you could transform into a car should you transform into a Muscle Car or a Hemi Truck
I frankly am constantly amazed that women still manage to somehow find men attractive and date them, and just assume at some point they will give up on us completely.
1. ass vs boobs
2. Darth Vader vs. Batman
3. If you could transform into a car should you transform into a Muscle Car or a Hemi Truck
I frankly am constantly amazed that women still manage to somehow find men attractive and date them, and just assume at some point they will give up on us completely.
What is the point of any thread about a kind of two-sided rivalry, then? Star Wars v Star Trek, ketchup vs mustard, waffles vs pancakes, pineapple pizza vs good pizza, dogs vs cats, etc, etc. Why does anyone have to let other people know their own personal opinion? Why do people post GIFs of Lady Gaga to prove she's better than Katy Perry? Couldn't people just go find pictures of Lady Gaga with Google? Is a photo going to even persuade anyone?
The inanity you complain about is replicated dozens of times daily on this and every other forum on the internet. The main difference is you don't like this particular topic.
Puck Beaverton
Banned
Is this what the kids call "white knighting"?
perfectchaos007
Member
If only Oda read this and stop making oversized breasts
Is there a "gate" movement for anime? Animegate
Common Knowledge
Member
I do have to say I find it kind of off-putting how a what is usually a very liberal, pro-feminism forum instantly turns into an all-out perv-fest as soon as women's bodies become the sole subject of a topic. While in any other thread about the issues of over-sexualization of women you'll see the majority (usually) of people here support discussing and shining a light on how the constant objectification is wrong and needs to be changed.
...But, oh, what's that? A thread about butts vs. boobs?! Nevermind, it's pervy time again!!
I'm not saying discussing physical attractiveness of certain people is in any way wrong, and I'm a heterosexual male myself, but it's just something that bothers me cause I've seen it countless times where feminist sentiments just get tossed to the side for a bit and any woman who chips in on how a thread makes her feel uncomfortable, they just get dismissed in lieu of continuing of drooling an ocean over tits and ass.
...But, oh, what's that? A thread about butts vs. boobs?! Nevermind, it's pervy time again!!
I'm not saying discussing physical attractiveness of certain people is in any way wrong, and I'm a heterosexual male myself, but it's just something that bothers me cause I've seen it countless times where feminist sentiments just get tossed to the side for a bit and any woman who chips in on how a thread makes her feel uncomfortable, they just get dismissed in lieu of continuing of drooling an ocean over tits and ass.
Thanks! I do try.
And thank you as well! You nailed it.
No, the main difference is that these arguments tend towards straight-up misogyny and being in denial about that only adds to the oppressive feeling of being out-of-place in a massive boys' club.
I don't know how I can make this any clearer to you guys. It's one thing to argue about stupid shit (hell, I do it all the time), it's entirely another to argue over body parts that people frequently have little-to-no control over and also negate any of said peoples' agency in so doing - because our feelings don't fucking matter any, clearly.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
I guess breasts are maybe still taboo for older generations who discovered porn with relatively tame magazines like Playboy in the pre-internet days. It must be weird being a teen tese days. I'm a millenial but I didn't get access to the internet until I was 15 and it was dial-up, haha.
Anyway, doing specific porn searches focused on breasts seems kinda weird to me. Some women I find gorgeous have huge boobs and others have almost none, I honestly don't really have a preference, be it in porn or real life. Fuck fake boobs though. But to each their own of course.
When it come to men though, only ass matters to me
Anyway, doing specific porn searches focused on breasts seems kinda weird to me. Some women I find gorgeous have huge boobs and others have almost none, I honestly don't really have a preference, be it in porn or real life. Fuck fake boobs though. But to each their own of course.
When it come to men though, only ass matters to me
broncobuster
Banned
To play devil's advocate and provide a counterpoint, here's a thread about mens bodies: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1381662
That's kind of silly. Men and women aren't a monolith. We come in all shapes, sizes, colors, temperaments, and everything in between.
Men and women talking about boobs and ass in a thread that's actually about boobs and ass doesn't seem weird or strange to me. Just like the thread about "best" being walked in on stories, where people are sharing their embarrassing and amusing anecdotes. They don't have to overshare, but some people are comfortable exposing vulnerable or innocuous things about themselves. Of course it doesn't matter what we find attractive or unattractive about a person's appearance.
There's a big difference in "I like these physical traits of a woman," and say, Trump's version of "grab 'em by the pussy," locker room talk.
I grew up raised by older sisters, and I would always hear the types of conversations they'd have with one another about the hot boys in their class, and things they and their friends would do to them.
Where I think the difference that needs to be considered is that men, unlike women, don't have a history of oppression and sexual objectification like they do, so it's understandable that a topic like boobs and ass is less than appealing for them. Entering this thread isn't compulsory, however. It's fair to state that the subject bugs you, and I think some courtesy and an open ear to that opinion of the thread is warranted, but I think it's unfair to make broad, generalizing statements that "men are like this," and "women are like this."
We are all individuals. We all view things in our own unique perspective, informed by our personal experiences.
If this thread was a thread about a study highlighting that millennial preferred men/women that were dumber than they were, and people chimed into the thread saying "I prefer a partner who's smart and nerdy," wouldn't that be similar? Or is it the notion that we're specifically discussing something as superficial as physical appearance that ruffles feathers?
I have no idea if that's a fair comparison, but don't see people stating what they find physically attractive about a partner any different than if they were talking about a non-physical trait they find attractive.
Then again, this thread is about porn searches.
I agree that I do find it ridiculous to argue about "which is 'better.'" They're women, not the meat at the deli.
Lol at equating arguing over pizza types over "this part of a woman's body is the best, if they don't have it, they're not attractive!"
Totally the same.
Thanks! I do try.
I don't know how I can make this any clearer to you guys. It's one thing to argue about stupid shit (hell, I do it all the time), it's entirely another to argue over body parts that people frequently have little-to-no control over and also negate any of said peoples' agency in so doing - because our feelings don't fucking matter any, clearly.
Yep. Arguments about an inanimate thing versus "these types of women are attractive, these are not", "that piece of meat on your body is gross/looks stupid/etc.".
Already done lol.
Is it straight-up misogyny to have a sexual preference or an aesthetic for beauty? Or merely to express said preference?
Looking back over the thread, there's only been a handful of people who posted pictures for approval or evaluation. Mostly just one guy humble-bragging about his wife and one person's picture of Jennifer Lopez. I was kinda surprised how restrained it has been.
Can you honestly say that's been the tone of this discussion? "Anyone who doesn't have what I like is worthless"?
Number 2 and three are just what? At least put Superman vs Goku.
Absolutely? Lol. It's about how one part of womens' bodies are much better than another part, and x>>y, ie. Y is not as good.
So. Yes. Lol.
Astral Dog
Member
Is this thread whining? Why don't you make your own thread?
tbh this thread is thirsty as hell go girl tame those horny dogs ;^)
Flame Lord
Member
Not as good doesn't equal worthless.
I was referring to the latter part. "if they don't have it, they're not attractive". That's how you characterized the discussion, but has anyone in this thread said something remotely like that? Has that been the overall tone, in your estimation? X>Y doesn't mean that Y is absolutely worthless.
Your feelings? About what features the other person finds most attractive...? "No you dont! You're into feet!" I'll take your input on what I like if you want, Laiza.
The One and Done
Member
It's always been about dat ass
Vermillion
Banned
You're absolutely right in that it is on topic. I guess what I'm saying is, considering how the particular women in this thread feel, it may not be worth having the topic at all.
Know your audience and all that. I don't think there's anything intrinsically wrong with the subject per-se - some women will enjoy the conversation just as much. But I'm saying it seems that the women in this particular topic... not so much. And for valid reasons.
Well, that's not quite fair. That's their preference and not a judgement, like how I prefer the color silver to the color blue but one isn't intrinsically better than the other. I can even like both colors with one a little more than the other.
I'd assume everyone alive has different preferences and likes and it's more about how they're expressing them that's the problem.
People were actually saying on eia better than the other though.
Welp... I'm going to hope that they just worded/expressed that wrong.
Not as good still means "this part of you is not as good"?? Okay, maybe not WORTHLESS, but it's still "you are not as good as someone else".
???????
Also there have been some in here saying "I've never seen the appeal" so...not appealing. This part of you is unappealing.
Who are you?
I don't watch porn
And yet, you know what this is:
Eddie Murphy? Is he like an old school kevin hart?
Were there posts of people actually saying that if "woman doesn't have this body part they are gross?" I admit I haven't read every post in this thread. I think that's gross if people have been saying shit like that.
For me, personally, physical appearance is one aspect of attractiveness, but it doesn't start and stop with it. I've dated tall women, short women, skinny women, "thick" women, black, white, busty, petite, whatever. The unifiying thing between them all is that I liked them for them. I loved being around them. Talking to them, laughing with them, joking with them and being in their company. And they felt the same about me. Physical appearance is the last thing I consider when getting into a relationship with someone. It won't be the last (or even first) thing I notice about a woman when I first meet them, but chemistry is probably the top consideration for me as a whole.
I think it's really gross when people make claims that having or not having a particular physical trait makes you "ugly." I know all about that shit.
I mean, I'm a 5'2 black/Samoan guy who has grown up being told that being short is gross and unattractive. Being rejected not because I wasn't funny or kind, or generous, but, to use their words, "You're awesome, and I really like you, but you're too short." I'm lucky my wife loves short dudes, I guess.
With that said, I can't help being short, so I worked on improving my confidence first. Worked on being a better person, stopped being bummed about being born short, and I eventually met the love of my life shortly (no pun intended) after.
"Unappealing". "This thing is unappealing", "I don't get the appeal of".
I'm glad you were able to find a cool wife and improve your confidence!
Glass Rebel
Member
I guess I just don't see what's inherently wrong about sharing one's preferences in a stupid thread on a stupid article by a stupid publication using stupid data from a stupid pornsite that comes to a stupid conclusion.
rokkerkory
Member
Blame celebrities getting butt and hip implants
So gross
So gross
It's sexist and ignorant to say most men are attracted to tits and/or ass and that it's probably not going to change anytime soon?
Just to be clear: my posts in this thread are specifically talking about straight men who are attracted to the female body, which also happens to be the majority of men. Maybe I should have explicitly stated that from the beginning.
Physical features are clearly important for ((most) straight) men when it comes to finding a woman physically attractive (the first ten pages of this thread are a good example of that). That's not to say that women don't care about physical attractiveness, nor am I saying men ONLY care about physical attractiveness, but it really seems like physical attractiveness is more important for men than it is for women. I would consider that a more "primitive" way of finding someone attractive since humans are much more than just physical creatures, hence my original comment.
Don't pretend you didn't bump this while watching Gobots.
Nigga, you just full of lies today.
You got a funny way of saying it, and if you've read even a single page of erotic fanfiction you'd know that's bullshit.
Robin and Nami deserved better....not anymore.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Boobs suck. It's all about that lower calf.
Mmmm
Mmmm
"Unappealing". "This thing is unappealing", "I don't get the appeal of".
I'm glad you were able to find a cool wife and improve your confidence!
Ah, yeah, I can totally see that. I also thought those comments were rude. It's like film snobs. "I don't see the appeal of X genre, so X genre is bad." (It's not really like film snobs, but the non-chalant way it's discussed feels like it.)
The tone of those comments definitely gives off a "the other thing is gross " vibe.
But yeah, I know confidence is an issue you wrestle with (I've been a supporter of you for a while now!), and it's one I've wrestled with my whole life (especially when I got vitiligo in my early 20's), and being confident in yourself, and loving yourself is soooo important. My whole outlook on life changed once I started to (plainly fully slowly), change my views of myself. I don't find it coincidental that I met my wife through a mutual friend after I began to exude that new confidence. I'm not saying my wife "validates" me, or vice versa, just that learning to love myself had a profound effect on my sense of self.
Searching the thread for the term "unappealing" yields 0 results. The word has not been used by someone here, as far as I can tell. Of course perhaps search is a little wonky since it at least should have returned your post. I think it takes a little time for new posts to be added to the search database.
Searching the thread fpr "appeal"/"appealing" yields 2 posters who said they did not understand the appeal of some body part. 2 people out of at least a couple hundred who have replied. So I don't think that's been the overall tone or tenor.
People have hierarchies of preference, and if forced to choose sides or pick a favorite they generally will and can. If you read an "X > Y" statement as "Anything lacking in X is poor, bad or subpar" then that's kind of your own interpretation, and not really the intent.
Raylan Targaryen
Member
who tf talks about 2 and 3? must be a north dakota guy thing or something
RedHoodedOwl
Member
Current Nami barely looks human.
Astral Dog
Member
Yep very sexist and downright wrong, what about Gay men, Lesbian women or just about any other woman or man that won't fit your definition ? What makes sex "primitive"?
Because most species use sex only for reproduction , mostly humans want it for pleasure, that would make humans more evolved given how we have entire cultures around it.
Basketball
Member
im freeeeee
a bit surprised "personality" is not one of the top search terms on pornhub
but yeah
ASS all day err day
a bit surprised "personality" is not one of the top search terms on pornhub
but yeah
ASS all day err day