My goal was to get beyond some sort of objectivity/subjectivity dichotomy, taking a more pointed look at precisely what goes into the normativity and regularization of review scores and their assessment of quality.MuseManMike said:I can't fully tell if you are agreeing with me. My sense of objectivity (in relation to review scores) is contingent upon axiomatic principles that assess "quality" i.e. your notion of repeated norms (this doesn't necessarily mean consensus, though it can).
If what you are trying to say is that because quality doesn't exist in nature, the only conclusion is that the application of objectivity is inherently misguided, therefore all assessments are subjectivity-salient -- that's a notion I disagree with.
KAL2006 said:Why is there still no information of what maps come with the game for multiplayer.
I think the people complaining now have been complaining all along. It's not like suddenly we've all had an epiphany.The Lamp said:But the series has never allowed you to omnipotently "interact" with things, it's not like Just Cause. It's always been about setpieces and unbreakable pace and flow through them with a gripping story and walled off sections of levels that give you an illusion that it's a seamless world. That has been the case since Uncharted 1. What I don't understand is when some people seem to nitpick about it now, as if they didn't have a problem with it since Uncharted 2. Or if they have been nitpicking since U1, why they haven't given up, because Uncharted is never going to put the player in full control of its surroundings, it messes with calculated precision of an experience that Naughty Dog is trying to present to you.
It's not like the lack of interactivity in Uncharted 1 or 2 ever took away from how fun the game was. If you had fun with the games, your interest was never likely focused on backtracking or detouring away from all the action, so I found it irrelevant to the experience, as I mentioned.
IGN can give less 10's to a game because they score ith decimals, so an amazing game could also get a 9.8 or 9.9. With Edge, it is either a 9 or a 10.Lord Error said:I think the biggest crazytime here is the 10 from IGN. As much as people say that Edge gives out 10s rarely. I think IGN probably gives that score even less often. Yeah, they gave it to GTA4 blah blah, so what, every damn place did, so you can't use that to discredit everyone (and yes, Edge gave it 10 as well).
LOL I bet they give MW3 almost a 10..
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The site is just looking for hits. I mean Uncharted is "shallow"? GTFO!
Reviewer need to die.
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Big surprise, from EuroSnobs.
yea, wht the hecck.. gatv used to be sony friendly site,,and they even gave un2 perfect score
X-Play?
Really?
Move along.
lowest score so far.
G4TV sucks cauk.
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g4tv are ms fanboys just watch feedback & see how many times they praise ms & attack nintendo & sony well especially sony i wonder what mw3 will get & which console will they be reviewing it on
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upJTboogie said:I have a little break from class here. So is Gaf happy with the scores?
ShockingAlberto said:I honestly find it all kind of boring these days. 20 years of obsessing over review scores and GOTYs and at the end of the day, it doesn't change the quality of the game at all.
Oni Jazar said:So any gameplay changes from U2 to U3? Harder puzzles? Better climbing mechanics?
I really hope it hits 95. ND deserves it.Meisadragon said:Yep, I think it can handle a few more 8 scores and still be over 94.
Manticore said:Meta score is 94 right now, based on 31 reviews, and it's still missing a lot of 10s and 9.5s.
The UI didn't change? :/EloquentM said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlaqyZEp9hg&feature=channel_video_title
look at 4:33 i think
Nope, Gamespot's review is coming soon.pharmboy044 said:Any know if the Gamespot and Destructoid reviews have been published yet?
unfortunately it doesn't look like it.gibration said:The UI didn't change? :/
Lol, they knock the game for being linear? Makes sense people are unhappy with them, never cared about that site, they're only good for face off comparisons.CozMick said:They're happy with everyone but Eurogamer.
10 from IGN, 9.5 from Gametrailers...................8 from EG for being linear.......
The IGN article is poorly written hype trash.Arpeggio23 said:Why is everyone so critical of IGN's 10/10 score when Giant Bomb gave the game a 5/5? Both scores equal 100%. No one is complaining about Giant Bomb.
I like that, some people may find this .gif spoilery btw, but it's just small piece of combat that I liked:Pranay_ said:revamp combat system
This kinda evens it out though. From the BeingNerdy comments:-GOUKI- said:and the g4 review
LOL n4g probably has a higher pedigree of sony fanboys then the psforums. SO funny
Better than gears of War 3? I dont think so. this has to be a fanboy site bececause I just beat gears 3 and it is one of the best games this gen!
You reviewers are full of shit if you think this game is a 10. Most PS3 games are overrrated and i will never purchase a fu**ing PS3.
Enjoy your fun now, i will be reporting this site for false product reviewing. idiots..
What site do you review games for?Wazzim said:8/10 is the perfect score for the game.
DaBuddaDa said:The IGN article is poorly written hype trash.
You can't be serious? 10.0/10.0 is nothing like 5/5, one is 100%, the other is anything from 80 to 100%.Arpeggio23 said:Why is everyone so critical of IGN's 10/10 score when Giant Bomb gave the game a 5/5? Both scores equal 100%. No one is complaining about Giant Bomb.
A 10 from Gamespot can change everything, I think the meta score can go up to 95.Ricky_R said:93% to 94% meta. Called it.
If it reaches 95% then uncalled.
Arpeggio23 said:Why is everyone so critical of IGN's 10/10 score when Giant Bomb gave the game a 5/5? Both scores equal 100%. No one is complaining about Giant Bomb..
Honest, articulate and free of bombastic language.Arpeggio23 said:What is Giant Bomb's?
Arpeggio23 said:What is Giant Bomb's?
StuBurns said:You can't be serious? 10.0/10.0 is nothing like 5/5, one is 100%, the other is anything from 80 to 100%.
Darknessbear said:Reviewers are so weird now. A lot of them review based on weird ass things. Now it seems like to please some sites, you need to be some odd indie game.
G4 giving it a 4/5 is odd as hell.
funkystudent said:so the game is good?
Right.Wazzim said:8/10 is the perfect score for the game.
I highly doubt they will give it a 10. I predict an 8.5 "A great game but doesn't do anything new" tagline for the review.Manticore said:A 10 from Gamespot can change everything, I think the meta score can go up to 95.
That is true but the sites will never do it, they need clicks. I wonder why print still uses them though. If you are going out of your way to pick a magazine up at this point, I'd hope it is to actually read it.RichardAM said:This thread is just further evidence that review scores in this industry need to die.
Haha, you can see how perplexed I am.zoukka said:Must be confusing living in the weird, odd weird-ass world.
You can't_Alkaline_ said:But how can I fully enjoy a game if some stranger didn't think it was worthy of a 9?
Not necessarily. These days a good/great game goes from 7-9 in a 10 count review but with 5 it's either 4 or 5. A 3 is usually seen as meh/needs work or something. There isn't enough room on a 5 count scale. 5/5 is much more common than 10/10.Arpeggio23 said:You can't be serious? 10 divided by 10 = 1. 5 divided by 5 = 1. Neither are "anything from 80 to 100%". Both are 100%.
pharmboy044 said:I highly doubt they will give it a 10. I predict an 8.5 "A great game but doesn't do anything new" tagline for the review.
Russell said:Right.
Just as 8/10 is the perfect score for a new Zelda game.