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Dark Souls III |OT| Thy path has been tested, now fight unkindled ash

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daninthemix

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Asking this again: are there any weapons that are truly viable (as in strong) late-game without stat investment (e.g. on the Fire / Deep upgrade path)?
 

Ferr986

Member
Ok so I saw that apparently the Dancer's enchanted Swords got buffed and got excited because it was a weapon I really wanted to use but was garbage but from what I can tell nothing is changed. Still has D scaling on everything, moves seem to come out at the same speed, and her Sword Art still deals 1/4th of the damage of her R1 attack. Is anyone noticing any actual buffs for the weapon?

They probably just added a lil more base damage or poise.

Its the kind of weapon that is doomed to be useless. Shame cause its a really fun wep.
 

Adry9

Member
Anyone carrying the Irithyll Straight Sword until the end of the game? Need a Titanite Slab to upgrade it but I think it's worth it.
 

Hooks

Member
Oh shit, I was helping a dude against C
rystal
S
age
and a terrible glitch happened during the fight.

Crystal Sage was almost dead, but the real one completely disappeared and only his clones remained in the arena. But the clones were invicible and the real CS never reappeared. So in the end, the dude I was helping died because the fight was impossible lol
Something similar happened to me, the boss stopped spawning all of a sudden. I didn't have any clones tho, just an empty arena
 
Asking this again: are there any weapons that are truly viable (as in strong) late-game without stat investment (e.g. on the Fire / Deep upgrade path)?

If you want a really well-rounded weapon for late-game you should probably go for a Raw weapon and use the proper resin for the boss to give you the elemental damage you need. I know speedrunners used the Astora's Strait Sword Raw to beat the game, although they're changing the route now to use a weapon that scales with stats for late-game. You can definitely use them up to the end of NG, although you will definitely notice your damage falling off hard in the later bosses. I personally don't think it's the easiest way to beat the game but it's totally possible. Just if you plan on playing NG+ you're really going to have to invest in some damaging stat because a Raw weapon is just simply going to deal a lot less less damage then a weapon with 50 in its scaling attributes.

EDIT: I would start with the Astora's Strait Sword for raw weapons. I heard the Longsword is decent too. Don't have too much experience with them but if you want to go Raw make sure you're using the right Resin on your weapon. You're really going to need it for the later bosses.
 

Shredderi

Member
They probably just added a lil more base damage or poise.

Its the kind of weapon that is doomed to be useless. Shame cause its a really fun wep.

I wonder why they won't just increase the damage a lot. Seems like an easy way to make it better since it's damage is very low. Fuck this trend of coolest looking weapons being useless in action :(
 

daninthemix

Member
If you want a really well-rounded weapon for late-game you should probably go for a Raw weapon and use the proper resin for the boss to give you the elemental damage you need. I know speedrunners used the Astora's Strait Sword Raw to beat the game, although they're changing the route now to use a weapon that scales with stats for late-game. You can definitely use them up to the end of NG, although you will definitely notice your damage falling off hard in the later bosses. I personally don't think it's the easiest way to beat the game but it's totally possible. Just if you plan on playing NG+ you're really going to have to invest in some damaging stat because a Raw weapon is just simply going to deal a lot less less damage then a weapon with 50 in its scaling attributes.

Yeah, it's just I like the idea of only pumping END / VIT / VIG and having a non-scaling weapon. This too was totally feasible in Dark Souls 1.
 

Jintor

Member
fuck me i've died more to this fucking grab attack on d
ancer of the borael valley
than any other of their fucking attacks

/edit well i finally noticed that little head bob thing it does first so hopefully that will help
 
N

Noray

Unconfirmed Member
Asking this again: are there any weapons that are truly viable (as in strong) late-game without stat investment (e.g. on the Fire / Deep upgrade path)?

I don't think there's anything like beating Dark Souls with minimum zweihander stats with a fire/chaos/lightning infusion, no. vit gouge doesn't seem very powerful this time around.
 
So is undead settlement the best area of the game or does it get even better later on???
I haven't finished the game yet to be fair but the areas that follow are different, not necessarily better or even worse.

In terms of hw much they kick your ass then undead settlement is
nothing
 

Joey Ravn

Banned
Can somebody explain to me how the whole affair with Y
oel
of L
ondor
works? Is there any drawbacks to accepting his "offer", getting the
5 required things
and letting the
Firekeeper heal
you when you give
her the Firekeeper Soul
?

If I should go with it, let me see if I'm getting correctly:
if you accept his offer, you become Hollow when you die. Every X numbers of Hollowing levels, you get an item. You need to give him 5 of these items and he will die, or something like that. This is tied to an ending, somehow?

I know I'm using a lot of spoilers, but I would appreciate if you could give me as less spoilerish an answer as you could. Like, no specifics about the result of the process in terms of plot. Just if I should go with it, and if there's any permanent negative side-effect to it.

Quoting myself since there's been like... fifteen pages since I last posted :p
 

mxgt

Banned
Quoting myself since there's been like... fifteen pages since I last posted :p

When you get 5 level ups through this system,
he dies and Yuria of Londor takes his place. She will mention Anri, who will become your spouse if you follow the quest line correctly. This leads to a different ending providing that you don't 'heal the dark sigil' at the Firekeeper
 

myco666

Member
One hour worth of farming with 99 Luck, Gold Serpent Ring and Rusted Coins equals one Proof of a Concord Kept. This grind is unreal. Is there any better place to farm these than
Silver Knights at Anor Londo
?
 
Any tips on a quality build for Onikiri and underachieving? Right now I'm lvl 87 or around that and I've got

Vigor: 25
End: 20
Vit: 10
Str: 35
Dex: 40
Everything else at base 10

Is it worth having under 30% equip load or should I throw those points elsewhere
 

Ferr986

Member
I wonder why they won't just increase the damage a lot. Seems like an easy way to make it better since it's damage is very low. Fuck this trend of coolest looking weapons being useless in action :(

Maybe it's the scaling that they should buff, I dunno. The problem with that weapon is that it has to go through 3 defenses (physical, fire and dark). Even with high AR having to go past 3 defenses will make them shit.

And they probably are scared that the special action could end up being a poise and health eater move, hence the low damage and non existant poise damage. Poise should def be buffed because it's hilarious how I can't spin on shit without the mob tanking it and interrumping me.
 
They probably just added a lil more base damage or poise.

Its the kind of weapon that is doomed to be useless. Shame cause its a really fun wep.

I feel like it should deal huge damage if you connect with it to make up for its low range but enemies can roll out after 2 hits and the weapon deals no poise damage at all. Also all the scalings are shit so no matter what you invest in you don't really increase the damage at all. Coming from my Yhorm's Great Machete build I don't see why you would ever go for a light weapon in PVP since you can just Poise tank the enemy and out-trade them with your weapon. And in PVE the weapon drains too much stamina to use on enemies. Like I really want the weapon to be good but as of right now it's a serious contender for the worst weapon in the game.
 

knitoe

Member
shit, apparently my
char is hollowed and looks like shit
.

how do i get rid of it?

1)
Purging stone will remove it, but if you die, you will start again.

2)
You can cleanse it permanently once it's unlock through the fire keeper, but it will end a questline.
 

Demoskinos

Member
shit, apparently my
char is hollowed and looks like shit
.

how do i get rid of it?

Two ways y
ou can get a ring that gives you your human form from Yuria of Londor or go to the top of the firelink shrine after opening the tower in the back get the firekeeper soul on the top of the tower and give it to the lady who levels you up.
 

Shredderi

Member
Maybe it's the scaling that they should buff, I dunno. The problem with that weapon is that it has to go through 3 defenses (physical, fire and dark). Even with high AR having to go past 3 defenses will make them shit.

And they probably are scared that the special action could end up being a poise and health eater move, hence the low damage and non existant poise damage. Poise should def be buffed because it's hilarious how I can't spin on shit without the mob tanking it and interrumping me.

Yeah I don't get it. Stop making cool animations for shit weapons. I don't want the most basic of weapons be better than the cool shit xD
 

Jellie

Member
Second phase absolutely.

First phase kinda sucks due to limitations of the (still) shitty camera.
Got used to the camera. Just have to follow him manually and then lock. Only sucks if you get under so just roll away and hope.
Prefer second last boss as when they teleport the camera doesn't mess up.
 

Mutombo

Member
Maybe it's the scaling that they should buff, I dunno. The problem with that weapon is that it has to go through 3 defenses (physical, fire and dark). Even with high AR having to go past 3 defenses will make them shit.

And they probably are scared that the special action could end up being a poise and health eater move, hence the low damage and non existant poise damage. Poise should def be buffed because it's hilarious how I can't spin on shit without the mob tanking it and interrumping me.

What I think happened was: weapon was overpowered in alpha/beta. They nerved the fuck out of it. Weapon became useless; a special skill that is not only quite hard to pull off but is interrupted, parried easily AND DOES ABOUT A THIRD OF THE DAMAGE. Special skills should do more, or have some sort of use to it. Now it just looks cool, but when enemies are around; useless.

I'm really glad because I really wanted to main this weapon. Will try out later, tonight and see what the difference is.
 

Jintor

Member
D
ancer
giving me an aneurysm especially since I didn't turn in my Lord Souls before
accidentally triggering him. Or her.

Got them down to like a thimbleful of health but I can't take more than two hits of the second form and man there are some combos I need to practice against
 

TitusTroy

Member
I have a general question about late game bosses and the game in general...I'm pretty far along in the game and for most of it I was able to get through all the bosses and areas fine...some were challenging but beatable...I'm a STR build with my weapon of choice the Greatsword (+7 currently) and the Dragon Crest Shield +4... but the last few bosses I've faced seem ridiculously hard and geared towards DEX builds with STR seemingly impossible

Champion Gundyr's
2nd phase is crazy...I can't get near him without getting hammered because he's super aggressive with almost no openings to attack...
Dragonslayer Armour and Lothric Younger Prince
are also giving me major issues

main issue is that I'm a shield user and 2-3 hits from a boss almost toally drains my stamina leaving me no way of attacking back...I'm currently at Level 79 with Vigor and Strength at 36 and Endurance at 37...what am I doing wrong?...I never touched Vitality or Dexterity because I those other stats were more important for my STR build
 

pa22word

Member
Wait, i'm 30 hours in and just got to that area as well, but havent even seen that part of th area. Where is that?
dumbfounded-reaction-gif.gif


what in the world are you guys doing that's taking you so long?!

On my NG+ run it took me no longer than 8-9 hours to get through cathedral, and that was with doing quite a bit of coop tomfoolery /and/ running through Lothric early.
 

Moff

Member
D
ancer
giving me an aneurysm especially since I didn't turn in my Lord Souls before
accidentally triggering him. Or her.

Got them down to like a thimbleful of health but I can't take more than two hits of the second form and man there are some combos I need to practice against

one of the best uses of the ring of sacrifice in the whole game
 

Facism

Member
Guy is waiting for duels in the swamp, bows, still chugs estus. Decided to waste his time as much he's wasting mine.

Hid with a branch and went to watch Netflix. 15 minutes and he's still waiting at the bonfire
 
1)
Purging stone will remove it, but if you die, you will start again.

2)
You can cleanse it permanently once it's unlock through the fire keeper, but it will end a questline.

Two ways y
ou can get a ring that gives you your human form from Yuria of Londor or go to the top of the firelink shrine after opening the tower in the back get the firekeeper soul on the top of the tower and give it to the lady who levels you up.

thanks! i need to do this asap.
HATE looking hollowed, i should have just killed that pilgrim bastard. knew he was trouble.
 

daninthemix

Member
main issue is that I'm a shield user and 2-3 hits from a boss almost toally drains my stamina leaving me no way of attacking back...I'm currently at Level 79 with Vigor and Strength at 36 and Endurance at 37...what am I doing wrong?...I never touched Vitality or Dexterity because I those other stats were more important for my STR build

You're not doing anything wrong - FROM just made shields a lot less viable in this game. I remember tanking Artorias with his own shield...due to the sheer volume of enemy attacks being much greater, you can no longer simply block everything.

It's FROM's way of saying they want everyone to roll, without exception I guess.
 
what in the world are you guys doing that's taking you so long?!

On my NG+ run it took me no longer than 8-9 hours to get through cathedral, and that was with doing quite a bit of coop tomfoolery /and/ running through Lothric early.

probably exploring the game, look for hidden items etc. i usually don't go into the next area until i've seen everything.
 

pa22word

Member
Holy crap that ring cheevo is bonkers. Just read that there are new rings all the way up to NG+3 o.o

If this game were like Scholar I wouldn't mind as much, but man that's going to be a massive fucking drag because of how little this game changes from each ng-to-ng....
 

TitusTroy

Member
You're not doing anything wrong - FROM just made shields a lot less viable in this game. I remember tanking Artorias with his own shield...due to the sheer volume of enemy attacks being much greater, you can no longer simply block everything.

It's FROM's way of saying they want everyone to roll, without exception I guess.

that sucks...rolling was always an option in the other games and they never forced anyone to have to use it...same way with parrying and other features...why bring back shields in the game (coming from Bloodborne) if it's not a viable option of finishing the game!
 

pa22word

Member
probably exploring the game, look for hidden items etc. i usually don't go into the next area until i've seen everything.

But 30 fucking hours?! How?! I fully explored everywhere on my first run (that's including the swamp) and still beat the game in about 22/23 hours and did all the side content in around 29 hours. Unless you're going full molebro and ganking newbies for days at a time it legit blows my mind that you take that long to get through the game.
 
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