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[sendit]

I would hate for "peasants play shit", kings play 4k.
This is already PC. Consles were always a safe space. Even if you can afford it, I like the peace of knowing that I get optimal experience for few years

Consoles haven't been a safe space for awhile, almost a decade now. This includes performance profiles and elite input devices.

 

[dorkimoe]

Ridiculous. Maybe work on ps5 only games first?

 

[Corndog]

But is it 10.3 tf though?



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18.

 

[Investor9872]

Why would Sony kill their hardware momentum by announcing a pro model this year? Seems far fetched. Even if they are researching a pro model I guarantee this stays under wraps until it is almost ready to sell.

If it's releasing the Pro in Fall 2024, then Sony will announce it in September and then release it in the same year, November 2024, like they did with the PS4 Pro.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

18.

15ish

 

[Roxkis_ii]

I speak for everyone in the community when I say I think I want it and I think I deserve it.

Everyone wants a pro and your thick and possibly dumb if you don’t.

Dumb because I want devs to optimize the current system to this fullest potential?

We still haven't seem a game look better then HFW and you think we need a pro console!?

They say an idiot and their money are always soon separated.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Ridiculous. Maybe work on ps5 only games first?

They are and have been.

 

[Bonfires Down]

Your OCD issues are not Sony’s problem. There is always a better version of what you own - houses, cars, phones, PCs. Now there is for consoles too.

 

[Three]

Besides power, I think that a better selling point would be full hardware backwards compatibly with PS1 PS2 and PS3 games. Meaning that you insert your disc and play.

That will excite so many PlayStation hardcore fans.

I suspect that could be an add on with the drive if the patent is anything to go by.

 

[Azurro]

cmon man. even a tiniest amount of imagination and empathy.
I would get the pro too but I dont't want that economic model
edit: ANYWAY - I would get it and I hope it would not be a nightmare to buy

I don't want to be mean, I really don't, but usually the reasons why people seem to be against one come from a REALLY misinformed place, or from an overly traditionalist one.

 

[Drew1440]

The PS5 pro will never happen because their isn’t a reason for it to exist. The only reason we got a PS4 pro was due to 4K. The PS5 pro doesn’t have a strong enough value proposition for it to be marketable. 4K/60 FPS with RT is the only benefit I can see with a pro and that’s not enough for most people to want to buy into the console.

Heck, we barely even have games that is pushing the current PS5 lol

Main selling point could be Freesync 120fps+ games, along with a new range of Bravia TVs to take advantage of.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Will sell like hotcakes bundled with GTA VI.

 

[Matt_Fox]

Regarding price, let's look back in time a few years...

The PS4 released 2013 at £349 / $399.

The PS4 Pro released in 2016 at - yes - £349 / $399.

So dont assume the PS5 Pro is going to be priced significantly higher than the PS5.

 

[Bojji]

PS5 soc is around 2070s actuallym you can just compare with PC port mid requirements and you can guess the equivalent hardware.

Without RT PS5 GPU is around 2070 super (so close to 2080), with RT it's ~2060.

IF there are "Pro" consoles this gen Xbox series S will be even more destructive to game development than it already is.

 

[rofif]

I don't want to be mean, I really don't, but usually the reasons why people seem to be against one come from a REALLY misinformed place, or from an overly traditionalist one.

The reason for me is... I have eyesight and I can see the pc market and smartphone market. I dont want that to happen to consoles.
Consoles are and will be backwards compatible from last gen forward. This means they could be selling new console every year if they wanted

 

[Knightime_X]

I'm skipping PS6 at launch.
I'll just wait for pro from now on.

 

[Spyxos]

Way too early. Bring on the games first.

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

Without RT PS5 GPU is around 2070 super (so close to 2080), with RT it's ~2060.

IF there are "Pro" consoles this gen Xbox series S will be even more destructive to game development than it already is.

I do not think its going to be destructive, the most popular console will be that main one for dev (PS5) and for rest it will be just scaled up or down.. so like it was most of the previous gen with PS4.

Its more like we gonna see 600p games on Series S with some upscaling to look only half-shit on 4k screen.

 

[EDMIX]

what? you telling me they want to make more money by offering an optional sku? They never did this before, why would they now?

shock /s

 

[gothmog]

If it's releasing the Pro in Fall 2024, then Sony will announce it in September and then release it in the same year, November 2024, like they did with the PS4 Pro.

That's what I'm thinking. Keep it as a deep secret until it's imminent. I think I'd be game for an upgrade at the end of next year as long as there are clear benefits.

 

[DonJorginho]

Most unnecessary console of all-time, can't see how people are clamouring saying WE NEED THIS when we've not even transitioned into the current gen only phase of games, almost all games are still being made with ancient last gen hardware in mind and I'm sure we aren't even 20% into seeing how far these puppies can be pushed when it comes to visual fidelity.

Newsflash games aren't suddenly going to turn into these tech demo level releases, as they'll still have to run on standard PS5s and in terms of third party releases, run on a Series S. So you're going to be paying an extortionate fee just to experience ray tracing modes at a higher framerate with a slightly higher dynamic res.

For me that's not enough of a reason to upgrade my console mid gen, but if anyone is excited for this then hey more power to them, I just don't see the reasoning yet for this console refresh.

 

[Bartski]

instant preorder even if it just means proper framerates

 

[damidu]

wish its true, would buy in an instant.

 

[TrebleShot]

Dumb because I want devs to optimize the current system to this fullest potential?

We still haven't seem a game look better then HFW and you think we need a pro console!?

They say an idiot and their money are always soon separated.

Your living in the land of fairytales and make believe.

Nvidia are out here charging £1600 for graphics cards that do not offer x3 the performance of a games console, you bet your arse there’s a market for these things.

 

[damidu]

Newsflash games aren't suddenly going to turn into these tech demo level releases, as they'll still have to run on standard PS5s and in terms of third party releases, run on a Series S. So you're going to be paying an extortionate fee just to experience ray tracing modes at a higher framerate with a slightly higher dynamic res.

buy that logic buying any new gpu is waste as well. and unlike gpus this is twice a generation thing.

 

[Flutta]

If this ends up being true....PS6 will be the first ever day one skip I make.....Absolutely nothing has pushed my PS5 really, and outside of Returnal there hasnt been a must buy and play right now...Maybe GT7 tbh.....

I'll buy the ps5 pro day one! hahahaha, please have dedicated RT cores.

Are you sure you even have a PS5?

 

[Azurro]

The reason for me is... I have eyesight and I can see the pc market and smartphone market. I dont want that to happen to consoles.
Consoles are and will be backwards compatible from last gen forward. This means they could be selling new console every year if they wanted

Again, that's an overly traditionalist mindset, but you don't articulate why your fears are warranted. It wouldn't even be possible to offer a meaningful new upgrade every year, given that both Sony and MS have to design a SoC for each model.

And again, it will be 4 years if this arrives on Q3 2024, in previous gens we would already be talking about a new generation after 4 years.

 

[sendit]

Your living in the land of fairytales and make believe.

Nvidia are out here charging £1600 for graphics cards that do not offer x3 the performance of a games console, you bet your arse there’s a market for these things.

The 4090 absolutely offers more than 3x the performance of a PS5. The issue is developers do not take advantage of this, don't have the budget to do so, and the user base that own 4090s is incredibly small. Even a 3090 runs circles around a PS5.

 

[DonJorginho]

buy that logic buying any new gpu is waste as well. and unlike gpus this is twice a generation thing.

If that's what you enjoy I'm not slagging it off, I'm saying that people are wrong in this thread showing these amazing next gen tech demos saying the PS5 Pro is what is going to allow us to reach that level of fidelity.

 

[rofif]

Again, that's an overly traditionalist mindset, but you don't articulate why your fears are warranted. It wouldn't even be possible to offer a meaningful new upgrade every year, given that both Sony and MS have to design a SoC for each model.

And again, it will be 4 years if this arrives on Q3 2024, in previous gens we would already be talking about a new generation after 4 years.

there is nothing I need to articulate. Plenty of examples. Like I've said smartpones and pc gaming.
you are positively naïve if you don't believe this could happen if they see $$$$$ in this system.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

there is nothing I need to articulate. Plenty of examples. Like I've said smartpones and pc gaming.
you are positively naïve if you don't believe this could happen if they see $$$$$ in this system.

Sony/Xbox is just going to chase the money and if enough people want and buy these machines it will become the norm

Though I don't believe it would ever be a yearly cycle like phones it could get closer to PC like cycles if enough money is made

 

[anothertech]

Will buy.

 

[Sethbacca]

It's amazing how many people don't bat an eye at spending thousands at their gaming PCs over the course of a console generation, but suddently get up in arms at the thought of spending far less on a console after trade in/selling your old system upgrading from the regular console to a "pro" model.

 

[TrebleShot]

The 4090 absolutely offers more than 3x the performance of a PS5. The issue is developers do not take advantage of this, don't have the budget to do so, and the user base that own 4090s is incredibly small. Even a 3090 runs circles around a PS5.

That only reinforces how stupid it is to charge that much for one component of a computer if no one is using it what’s the point?

 

[anothertech]

50tf. 1000$

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

50tf. 1000$

 

[Caio]

Last time Sony announced the PS4 Pro in September and released it in November. Just two months between announcement and release.

Why so short? Because they don't want to hurt sales of the base console. They dont want people holding off their purchase.

If a PS5 Pro does happen then expect them to keep tight lipped about it for as long as possible for the same reason.

This, and PS5 PRO is gonna happen

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

[/QUOTE]

50tf. 1000$

 

[ToTTenTranz]

It's bollocks I'm sure.

For a 2024 release of a PS5 Pro, it would mean Sony was designing this thing at a time when the semi-conductor industry was suffering severe component scarcity and they didn't even know that they'd be able to get enough components for the base PS5 to meet the demand.... yeah, right!

Sony's been registering parents for what would be a higher performance PS5 since 2020. They even have a patent for chiplet-based SoCs.

Modularity of performance in their 9th-gen consoles might have been in Sony's plans for a lot longer than the semiconductor crisis.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

Just like with the PS4 to the PS4 Pro, we can generally guess pretty confidently that the PS5 Pro will have increased visuals, performance, and speeds. But as for leaked details, we’ll have to wait until a later date to release those.

Lol reallly, my eyes will notice 8k resolution, ray tracing will be shinier? If true, the pro is so unnecessary for this generation, we barely have proper current gen games.

 

[Varteras]

I really fucking hope not,it's completely pointless,and this gen has barely begun

 

[Bartski]

50tf. 1000$

 

[Gamerguy84]

One of the biggest upgrades from last gen is actually the hard drive to Nvm. We're not getting that jump again. Load times are just about non existent when done well.

It should be just graphics and some more grunt for PSVR2. I'll gladly pay for a refresh every 3.5 to 4 years. It's a little different than releasing a GPU every year.

 

[SNG32]

I suspect that could be an add on with the drive if the patent is anything to go by.

Sony is not letting you play a full library of ps1, ps2 and ps3 games. Only backwards compatibility will be whatever games they put on the service.

 

[onQ123]

Way too early. Bring on the games first.

Xbox started a whole new generation in 4 years with the Xbox 360

Xbox
Release date
NA: November 15, 2001
JP: February 22, 2002
AU: March 14, 2002
EU: March 14, 2002


Xbox 360
Release date
November 22, 2005

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

I'm in

 

[Spyxos]

Xbox started a whole new generation in 4 years with the Xbox 360

Xbox
Release date
NA: November 15, 2001
JP: February 22, 2002
AU: March 14, 2002
EU: March 14, 2002


Xbox 360
Release date
November 22, 2005

I guess you forgot that the first Xbox was a massive flop and Ms gave up on it quickly and tried their luck with the 360. With which they were very successful.

 

[sendit]

That only reinforces how stupid it is to charge that much for one component of a computer if no one is using it what’s the point?

It doesn't actually reinforce your point at all. Considering a single use case is looking at this from a narrow point of view. Let me be more specific, no developer is using a 4090 to create a 30 FPS experience that some gamer's don't mind. Highend GPUs like the 4090 can can be used to push resolution, ray tracing, textures, foliage, etc...to its highest* potential at a respectively frame rate beyond 60 FPS. Pushing high frame rates on consoles comes at a cost. This usually entails degraded textures, lower resolution, lack of ray tracing, reduced graphical effects, reduced foliage, and so on.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[CrustyBritches]

I’ll believe it when the data miners find the chips in development, or hackers leak internal documents. Switch Pro was also a thing according to “insiders”.